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The ATF isn’t all bad. In fact, they had a policy of letting illegal gun purchases go between 2006 and 2011. It ended up getting
John F Kennedy spoke of dismantling the CIA and scattering it to the winds.
I consider the ATF with the same disdain. Waco’s David Koresh compound, with its 114 victims, including 17 pregnant women, plus Randy Weaver’s family members, show us that they seem to exist to wage war on Americans and to cause as much trouble as possible.
“The most scandal free administration in history”! was really the least investigated administration in history as far as the press was concerned.
I agree, but would go further. I would also abolish the DEA which has had just as many scandals, just as many lives pointlessly lost.
The sniper killing Weaver’s wife as she held her baby did it for me. Yeah, they claim he was shooting at a different target, but the alleged target was running toward the house. One firearm safety rule is not to shoot unless you know what is behind your target. In this case, it was Vikki Weaver . . .
I have a friend who worked for ATF in the late sixties and early seventies. He told me that the bureau was just as ethically challenged then.
I’ve never seen an answer to the question, “how was the government going to keep an eye on these guns?” It seems that in virtually every case they disappeared into the criminal world until they turned up at the scene of a crime…and that this is what should have reasonably been expected. Or are there other facts that I should know?
To the Left, this should be cause for outrage. They believe guns themselves are the problem.
But the Right believes guns are safe in the hands of most people and that criminals have generally been able to acquire guns despite bans. Ergo, “gun trafficking that resulted in crimes” is not an accurate claim. Those criminals probably would have possessed guns without the ATF’s operations, so Fast and Furious did not directly lead to any death.
Operation Chokepoint was the more serious gun-related scandal under the Obama administration.
Thank you for posting this, ammo. I don’t know why the Republican house did not investigate this nor Mr Sessions appoint a special prosecutor.
One of my fellow paranoids offered the theory that the volume of “walked” weapons with an expectation that they would be used for horrific acts on both sides of the border was intended to form the grounds for proposing a gun control treaty with Mexico as an end run around 2A. If there was no such hidden agenda or other rational purpose then the people who orchestrated this fiasco are merely morons.
I sometimes wonder why there are no consequences for government supervisors who hire and retain morons. If their employees are really morons and not crooks, surely their attributes wouldn’t have stayed hidden until they happened to do something like this. It would be the job of a supervisor to catch such attributes and take action before it came to this.
What a fantastic, concise summary of the episode. Thank you, @ammodotcom, for the effort.
This is one of the ten biggest reasons why I simply cannot take any Democrat seriously when they act all offended about anything. They aren’t interested in a true, healthy discussion of America’s form of government, or America’s future, or America’s political characters.
They are all and only about rhetoric, ideology, and pandering to identity politics.
With almost any American agency, it really is hard to figure out if the agency policies are due to some totally fantastical agenda, which has a means much more horrible than the end should require, or if, like you suggest the agencies re run by morons.
Of course, usually any step in any direction that any agency undertakes is going to allow that agency to have that many more tax dollars. So maybe greed figures into the picture as well.
The operation that started in the Bush administration, had mounted GPS trackers inside the guns, and had their firing pins discretely ground down, so they wouldnt actually fire.
I completely agree with the sentiment that this program was started to get more legally purchased guns at crime scenes so that they could push for tougher gun regulations. While I hate to think that ‘false flag’ terror attacks or other outrageous conspiracy theories might hold water. This one does – not just because the Obama administration seems to have been staffed from Henchmen Inc, but the way the they acted after the programs where discovered.
This is a great post, and the best analysis of this sorry episode I’ve ever seen. Obama and Holder both belong in prison for this and other reasons. I’ve always thought, like @oldbathos, that they hoped to use this scheme to bolster their call for gun control in addition to whatever else those slimebuckets hoped to achieve.
In addition to everything else, we should remember that Special Agent Vincent Cefalu, who blew the whistle on the doings of the ATF, was fired unceremoniously in a public parking lot and retaliated against in other ways (he eventually won a lawsuit against them).
Contrast the treatment of an actual whistleblower with the treatment of Eric Ciaramella, the fake one who was really a spy and was treated like a hero, celebrated by the Left and the media (but I repeat myself), and caused one of the darkest chapters in our history with impunity.