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When the Russia/Mueller fiasco fizzled and Democrats realized that none of their candidates could beat Trump, they got desperate enough to just go flat out for a phony impeachment. Schiff literally did a dramatic reading of the transcript that was altered for effect. Rep. Nadler’s Law School professors were worthless, adding nothing to the conversation much less the case. Nancy Pelosi, in recognition that this is a kangaroo court simply directed them to impeach before the hearing was over.

This is the ugliest, dumbest partisan fiasco in U.S. history.

Regards,

Jim

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  1. Gary Robbins Reagan

    I dissent. I think that Nadler did a far better job. We shall see what happens in the Senate. I hope that there will be four Republican Senators who will agree with the 47 Democrats to compel the testimony of Pompeo, Perry and Bolton.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 10:05 AM PST
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  2. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I dissent. I think that Nadler did a far better job. We shall see what happens in the Senate. I hope that there will be four Republican Senators who will agree with the 47 Democrats to compel the testimony of Pompeo, Perry and Bolton.

    Gary,

    I bet you that more Democrats jump ship than Republicans.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • December 9, 2019, at 10:36 AM PST
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  3. Gary Robbins Reagan

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I dissent. I think that Nadler did a far better job. We shall see what happens in the Senate. I hope that there will be four Republican Senators who will agree with the 47 Democrats to compel the testimony of Pompeo, Perry and Bolton.

    Gary,

    I bet you that more Democrats jump ship than Republicans.

    Regards,

    Jim

    In the House, yes. In the Senate, I don’t think so. We shall see.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 10:49 AM PST
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  4. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I dissent. I think that Nadler did a far better job. We shall see what happens in the Senate. I hope that there will be four Republican Senators who will agree with the 47 Democrats to compel the testimony of Pompeo, Perry and Bolton.

    Gary,

    I bet you that more Democrats jump ship than Republicans.

    Regards,

    Jim

    In the House, yes. In the Senate, I don’t think so. We shall see.

    Gary,

    Yes, we shall. BTW, if Nadler did such a great job why didn’t Pelosi let him finish it? Comrade Pelosi barked her marching order “IMPEACH”. The flying monkeys (that’s the Democratic congresspeople) took off to do her bidding.

    C’mon Gary admit how pathetic this grand fiasco is. This would set a precedent for impeachment that amounts to the destruction of the Executive branch. I don’t think that’s what the framers had in mind. They’d puke if forced to watch this lunatic asylum.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • December 9, 2019, at 11:06 AM PST
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  5. Hugh Member

    You know if you order your MagPul accessories by Dec 16th they will arrive before Christmas…

    The Democrats are building an interesting legacy. How close to the edge can you go before you have create a situation that can’t be backed away from?

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    • December 9, 2019, at 11:28 AM PST
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  6. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Hugh (View Comment):

    You know if you order your MagPul accessories by Dec 16th they will arrive before Christmas…

    The Democrats are building an interesting legacy. How close to the edge can you go before you have create a situation that can’t be backed away from?

    The falling ratings of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS and the increased ratings at Fox show that people are tired of the bad penny the Dems keep trying to put into circulation.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 12:13 PM PST
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  7. Gary Robbins Reagan

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I dissent. I think that Nadler did a far better job. We shall see what happens in the Senate. I hope that there will be four Republican Senators who will agree with the 47 Democrats to compel the testimony of Pompeo, Perry and Bolton.

    Gary,

    I bet you that more Democrats jump ship than Republicans.

    Regards,

    Jim

    In the House, yes. In the Senate, I don’t think so. We shall see.

    Gary,

    Yes, we shall. BTW, if Nadler did such a great job why didn’t Pelosi let him finish it? Comrade Pelosi barked her marching order “IMPEACH”. The flying monkeys (that’s the Democratic congresspeople) took off to do her bidding.

    C’mon Gary admit how pathetic this grand fiasco is. This would set a precedent for impeachment that amounts to the destruction of the Executive branch. I don’t think that’s what the framers had in mind. They’d puke if forced to watch this lunatic asylum.

    Regards,

    Jim

    I was referring to today’s opening statements, not Nadler’s overall performance.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 12:23 PM PST
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  8. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I dissent. I think that Nadler did a far better job. We shall see what happens in the Senate. I hope that there will be four Republican Senators who will agree with the 47 Democrats to compel the testimony of Pompeo, Perry and Bolton.

    Gary,

    I bet you that more Democrats jump ship than Republicans.

    Regards,

    Jim

    In the House, yes. In the Senate, I don’t think so. We shall see.

    Gary,

    Yes, we shall. BTW, if Nadler did such a great job why didn’t Pelosi let him finish it? Comrade Pelosi barked her marching order “IMPEACH”. The flying monkeys (that’s the Democratic congresspeople) took off to do her bidding.

    C’mon Gary admit how pathetic this grand fiasco is. This would set a precedent for impeachment that amounts to the destruction of the Executive branch. I don’t think that’s what the framers had in mind. They’d puke if forced to watch this lunatic asylum.

    Regards,

    Jim

    I was referring to today’s opening statements, not Nadler’s overall performance.

    Gary,

    Well, those are high standards. After all, it’s only an impeachment of a sitting President. As Rep. Green has stated if at first they don’t succeed they can impeach again and again.

    We are in the hands of lunatics.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • December 9, 2019, at 12:31 PM PST
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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Coolidge

    Impeachment is harming your party, Gary. Democrats are losing badly in battleground states.

     

    https://firehousestrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Picture1.png

    Especially in my home state of Wisconsin!

    You might want to talk to your party leaders and help them find an escape hatch. Your party is doomed in 2020 if they don’t correct course.

     

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    • December 9, 2019, at 1:08 PM PST
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  10. Gary Robbins Reagan

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Impeachment is harming your party, Gary. Democrats are losing badly in battleground states.

     

    https://firehousestrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Picture1.png

    Especially in my home state of Wisconsin!

    You might want to talk to your party leaders and help them find an escape hatch. Your party is doomed in 2020 if they don’t correct course.

    I am a Reagan Republican. But you already knew that. Or do we need to do an extended dissertation on the issue of my political allegiances?

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    • December 9, 2019, at 1:54 PM PST
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  11. Washington Square Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Impeachment is harming your party, Gary. Democrats are losing badly in battleground states.

     

    https://firehousestrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Picture1.png

    Especially in my home state of Wisconsin!

    You might want to talk to your party leaders and help them find an escape hatch. Your party is doomed in 2020 if they don’t correct course.

    I am a Reagan Republican. But you already knew that. Or do we need to do an extended dissertation on the issue of my political allegiances?

    As a matter of fact yes. I would appreciate some explanation of/for your political allegiances. Reagan has been dead for quite some time and the audiance at Ricochet is living through this fiasco right now. I gots to know.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 3:21 PM PST
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  12. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Coolidge

    Washington Square (View Comment):

    As a matter of fact yes. I would appreciate some explanation of/for your political allegiances. Reagan has been dead for quite some time and the audiance at Ricochet is living through this fiasco right now. I gots to know.

    Oh no baby what is you doin’?

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    • December 9, 2019, at 3:24 PM PST
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  13. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I am a Reagan Republican. But you already knew that. Or do we need to do an extended dissertation on the issue of my political allegiances?

    Money. Mouth.

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    • December 10, 2019, at 8:08 AM PST
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  14. Kozak Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Washington Square (View Comment):

    As a matter of fact yes. I would appreciate some explanation of/for your political allegiances. Reagan has been dead for quite some time and the audiance at Ricochet is living through this fiasco right now. I gots to know.

    Oh no baby what is you doin’?

    I know someone is protecting his investment in Slo Joe.

    Speaking of which I hope the GOP drags Slo Joe and his spawn in to testify. I hope they drag in Hillary, Steele, Comey, Brennan, Mifsud, the whole stinking dirty Deep State.

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    • December 10, 2019, at 8:13 AM PST
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  15. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    Somebody who pays closer attention to this stuff, please tell me:

    Does Trump now join Johnson and Clinton as number three in the impeachment club? Or do we still need to dot a few I’s and cross a few T’s before it’s official?

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    • December 10, 2019, at 8:14 AM PST
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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Coolidge

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    Somebody who pays closer attention to this stuff, please tell me:

    Does Trump now join Johnson and Clinton as number three in the impeachment club? Or do we still need to dot a few I’s and cross a few T’s before it’s official?

    All depends on Nancy, really. Can she strong-arm a few wobblies in her caucus? Or has she lost all control?

    Whatever the case, the Democrats and the Nevers (who are also Democrats) have sown the wind. They shall reap the whirlwind.

    The President will be reelected in a landslide. Democrats and Nevers will once again double down on insanity, and the American people will continue to treat them with well-deserved contempt. 

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    • December 10, 2019, at 8:21 AM PST
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  17. MichaelKennedy Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I dissent. I think that Nadler did a far better job. We shall see what happens in the Senate. I hope that there will be four Republican Senators who will agree with the 47 Democrats to compel the testimony of Pompeo, Perry and Bolton.

    Ridiculous but, if that is the sort of Congress you want, you are welcome to him. He is a fool who has made a mess of each of the hearings his committee held. After Cory Lewandowski punked him, Pelosi took the impeachment away from him and gave it to Schiff. Then it came back and was another disaster. I would not be surprised to see this farce fail to pass as more D members are expressing reservations.

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    • December 10, 2019, at 9:02 AM PST
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  18. Bill Nelson Member

    James Gawron: This is the ugliest, dumbest partisan fiasco in U.S. history.

    No, it is anything but. It is deadly serious and will have deadly consequences for some years to come.

    The House will vote to send charges of impeachment to the Senate. The vote will be almost entirely on party lines. I expect one democrat to jump ship. The democrats could have capture up to 9 or 10 republican votes but had no interest in doing so, because they wanted a show. The senate will not convict, this is well known.

    The democrats are betting that this hurts Trump at the polls. It isn’t going to help, that is sure, there will be no massive rejection of the democrats as punishment.

    So Trump is not convicted, and he will take the view he is exonerated. And Trump will be even less constrained than in the past. And this will be dangerous to the nation.

     

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    • December 10, 2019, at 9:44 AM PST
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  19. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    Somebody who pays closer attention to this stuff, please tell me:

    Does Trump now join Johnson and Clinton as number three in the impeachment club? Or do we still need to dot a few I’s and cross a few T’s before it’s official?

    All depends on Nancy, really. Can she strong-arm a few wobblies in her caucus? Or has she lost all control?

    Whatever the case, the Democrats and the Nevers (who are also Democrats) have sown the wind. They shall reap the whirlwind.

    The President will be reelected in a landslide. Democrats and Nevers will once again double down on insanity, and the American people will continue to treat them with well-deserved contempt.

    A Trump landslide victory would be the best thing for the country. I don’t want any outs for the Democrats this time. They need the electoral equivalent of “go sit in the corner and think about what you have done.”

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    • December 10, 2019, at 9:50 AM PST
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  20. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Coolidge

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):
    I don’t want any outs for the Democrats this time. They need the electoral equivalent of “go sit in the corner and think about what you have done.”

    I agree, but . . . are they capable of self-reflection?

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    • December 10, 2019, at 9:53 AM PST
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  21. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):
    I don’t want any outs for the Democrats this time. They need the electoral equivalent of “go sit in the corner and think about what you have done.”

    I agree, but . . . are they capable of self-reflection?

    The nature of a landslide victory would imply that they need to jettison their radicals because it would prove they are not worth basing the entire platform on. It would at least be a start.

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    • December 10, 2019, at 9:56 AM PST
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  22. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Coolidge

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):
    I don’t want any outs for the Democrats this time. They need the electoral equivalent of “go sit in the corner and think about what you have done.”

    I agree, but . . . are they capable of self-reflection?

    The nature of a landslide victory would imply that they need to jettison their radicals because it would prove they are not worth basing the entire platform on. It would at least be a start.

    Wouldn’t it be easier for them to just disband the party? ;)

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    • December 10, 2019, at 10:16 AM PST
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  23. Kozak Member
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    Bill Nelson (View Comment):

    It isn’t going to help, that is sure, there will be no massive rejection of the democrats as punishment.

     

    I beg to differ. It’s already helping him with moderates and those rare not insane Democrats.

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    • December 10, 2019, at 12:23 PM PST
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  24. Jager Coolidge
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    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    Somebody who pays closer attention to this stuff, please tell me:

    Does Trump now join Johnson and Clinton as number three in the impeachment club? Or do we still need to dot a few I’s and cross a few T’s before it’s official?

    Few more steps.

    This was the announcement of the articles of impeachment. 

    Next the House Judiciary Committee has to vote to approve them (supposed to be this week)

    Then they go to the full House for a vote (supposed to be next week)

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    • December 10, 2019, at 1:24 PM PST
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  25. jauchter Member
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    This post was unnecessarily harsh. Let me explain why: 

    1) First off… no, actually, you were right there, but 

    2) … umm … well, of course, any fair minded person would agree that

    3) …

    OK, it was completely appropriately harsh….

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  26. Clifford A. Brown Contributor

    Why? The will to power. Period.

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Bill Nelson (View Comment):

    It isn’t going to help, that is sure, there will be no massive rejection of the democrats as punishment.

     

    I beg to differ. It’s already helping him with moderates and those rare not insane Democrats.

    But not with TruCons, never with TruCons.

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    • December 10, 2019, at 9:10 PM PST
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  27. Django Member

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):
    I don’t want any outs for the Democrats this time. They need the electoral equivalent of “go sit in the corner and think about what you have done.”

    I agree, but . . . are they capable of self-reflection?

    If that is a serious question, the answer is “NO”. Same for Nevers. 

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    • December 10, 2019, at 9:34 PM PST
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  28. TBA Coolidge
    TBA

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):
    I don’t want any outs for the Democrats this time. They need the electoral equivalent of “go sit in the corner and think about what you have done.”

    I agree, but . . . are they capable of self-reflection?

    I understand vampires can’t see themselves in mirrors. This fact may be unrelated. 

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    • December 10, 2019, at 11:31 PM PST
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