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A few weeks back I wrote a somewhat-snarky post on Health Fads. Lots of people shared my skepticism – but not a few of you shared your results on Keto/Atkins. I shared the post with my family, and one of my sons decided to try it. In solidarity, I joined him. And then, so did another son.

Results have been impressive and positive. I never would have tried the diet without your input – thank you!

Also, Mrs. iWe and I recently enjoyed Spitfire, and we would not have even seen it without the recommendations here!

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  1. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
    CB Toder aka Mama Toad Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Doesn’t R> have the best members? 

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

    • #1
    • December 8, 2019, at 9:32 AM PST
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  2. The Other Diane Coolidge
    The Other Diane Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    And thanks very much for linking to your post again today, iWe! I didn’t see it the first time around and been working on lowering carb intake again these past few weeks (it worked very well for me weight loss and bloodwork-wise when I did it six years ago.). My physician let me know in November that with my family history I have to lose weight right away if I don’t want to take statins and BP meds. Is there a low carb group or recurring post about this anywhere on the site that you know of?

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    • December 8, 2019, at 10:37 AM PST
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  3. iWe Reagan
    iWe Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The Other Diane (View Comment):
    Is there a low carb group or recurring post about this anywhere on the site that you know of?

    I do not. But I, too, want to avoid statins. They gave my mother memory loss, and I would rather live a (somewhat) shorter life than have mental impairment now.

    • #3
    • December 8, 2019, at 11:21 AM PST
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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor

    iWe (View Comment):

    The Other Diane (View Comment):
    Is there a low carb group or recurring post about this anywhere on the site that you know of?

    I do not. But I, too, want to avoid statins. They gave my mother memory loss, and I would rather live a (somewhat) shorter life than have mental impairment now.

    I’m curious to know how the doctors connected your mother’s memory loss to statins. I haven’t hear this before (except previously from you).

    • #4
    • December 8, 2019, at 11:23 AM PST
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  5. Annefy Member

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    The Other Diane (View Comment):
    Is there a low carb group or recurring post about this anywhere on the site that you know of?

    I do not. But I, too, want to avoid statins. They gave my mother memory loss, and I would rather live a (somewhat) shorter life than have mental impairment now.

    I’m curious to know how the doctors connected your mother’s memory loss to statins. I haven’t hear this before (except previously from you).

    My son in law researched the issue when his father was prescribed statins. 

    Fortunately, his research convinced husband to dump the prescription and change his diet. 

    I had already told my doc (same as husband) to pound sand when he brought up statins. I was going through the last 3 years of my mother’s life and told him “I have no desire to add years to the back end.”

    My cholesterol wasn’t even high …

    • #5
    • December 8, 2019, at 12:14 PM PST
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  6. Arahant Member

    The Other Diane (View Comment):
    Is there a low carb group or recurring post about this anywhere on the site that you know of?

    No reason you couldn’t start one.

    • #6
    • December 8, 2019, at 2:41 PM PST
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  7. HeavyWater Coolidge

    What does your average daily food diary look like on your version of Keto/Atkins?

    I’ve known different people who say that they have gone Keto and yet they offer up widely different dietary regimens.

    Some eat whole sticks of butter because butter is almost 100 percent fat. But others will eat sandwiches even though the bread contains carbohydrates.

    So, I’d be curious as to what a typical daily food diary of yours looks like.

     

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    • December 8, 2019, at 2:43 PM PST
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  8. iWe Reagan
    iWe Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Breakfast: Cheese-mushroom-smoked salmon omelette fried in butter served with oodles of sour cream on top. Incredible. And coffee with heavy cream.

    Lunch. I always have an avocado, perhaps with some salad dressing or a splash of lemon juice. Perhaps some more smoked fish, or nuked Facon. Or nuked leftover dinner (see “Dinner”). Or a hunk of cheese.

    Dinner (when I have it): Wings, or hot dogs or kaftas or meat sauce. When I am feeling rich, steak.

    Snacks: Raw pecans at my desk. Occasional shots of cream. And 1-2 shots of scotch (keto-friendly!!!) a few times a week.

    • #8
    • December 8, 2019, at 2:52 PM PST
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  9. Arahant Member

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But others will eat sandwiches even though the bread contains carbohydrates.

    I don’t know of any Keto/Atkins diet that is much for grains or processed foods (other than the cooking of meat, etc.).

    • #9
    • December 8, 2019, at 2:59 PM PST
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  10. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Arahant (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But others will eat sandwiches even though the bread contains carbohydrates.

    I don’t know of any Keto/Atkins diet that is much for grains or processed foods (other than the cooking of meat, etc.).

    Some people try to limit protein intake in addition to limiting carbohydrate intake because our bodies can perform gluconeogenesis, the conversion of protein into glucose.

    So, people who are trying to keep their blood glucose levels low by limiting carbohydrate intake often realize that their body is working against them if they eat too much protein.

    Gluconeogenesis is one of the reasons why some people have a tough time obtaining ketosis despite eating a low carb diet.

    Other people I have talked to never measure their level of ketones.

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    • December 8, 2019, at 3:07 PM PST
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  11. GrannyDude Member

    @iWe, do we get before/after pix?

    • #11
    • December 8, 2019, at 3:12 PM PST
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  12. HeavyWater Coolidge

    For the past 9 years, I have been on a very high carbohydrate diet.

    No meat.

    No diary (no milk, cheese, yogurt)

    No eggs.

    No vegetable oil (no olive oil, no coconut oil).

    So, I eat lots of oatmeal with fruit. I eat lots of whole wheat pasta with marinara sauce.

    Lots of beans and rice. Vegetarian chili (tomatoes, onions, carrots, celery, beans and lots of spices).

    I also try to keep my sodium intake low, below 1,500 milligrams per day.

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    • December 8, 2019, at 3:23 PM PST
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  13. iWe Reagan
    iWe Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    @iWe, do we get before/after pix?

    Of me? No. I might share a vital stat or two. But I do not want my face on Ricochet at all – my corporate identity cannot be compromised by open knowledge of my political views and religion.

    • #13
    • December 8, 2019, at 5:08 PM PST
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  14. Brent Chambers Member

    I would like to recommend a podcast on this topic. It is led by two MDs who each lost well over 100 pounds.

    http://www.lowcarbmd.com 

    Highly recommend episode 10.

    • #14
    • December 9, 2019, at 7:44 AM PST
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  15. iWe Reagan
    iWe Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Brent Chambers (View Comment):

    I would like to recommend a podcast on this topic. It is led by two MDs who each lost well over 100 pounds.

    http://www.lowcarbmd.com

    Highly recommend episode 10.

    Thank you! Trying it.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 7:55 AM PST
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  16. Pony Convertible Member

    I went on a Keto / Atkins type diet about 10 years ago. I lost about 25 pounds in 6 months. The problem came when I got to my desired weight and decided I could allow myself the pleasure of eating some carbs and sugar, as long as I did it on a limited basis. Once I started eating carbs again, my cravings for carbs became incredibly strong. I went from not caring about eating carbs at all, to frantically pulling everything out of the cupboards trying to find something sweet. I would do things like eat spoons full of maple syrup just to satisfy my cravings (We have always had a large supply of real syrup in our pantry. It is wicked good by the spoonful). I gained most of my weight back. So beware of how you handle carbs in the future. I have talked to others that had the same experience. Once you go back to carbs the cravings are much higher than before you started the diet.

    It was not all for naught. Going through the process, I learned a lot about how to eat, and now limit my carbs. I also exercise more. I am almost back to my desired weight, and because of the diet and exercise, I honestly feel 10 years younger. 

    One more thing. I also quit drinking alcohol. This made a big difference in how well I sleep. Getting a good nights sleep is also a big contributor to feeling better.

    • #16
    • December 9, 2019, at 10:02 AM PST
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  17. iWe Reagan
    iWe Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Pony, wow – that is a cautionary tale for sure. I think I can keep the regimen – I hope so! I already exercise, but it never helped me lose weight.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 10:06 AM PST
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  18. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Pony Convertible (View Comment):

    I went on a Keto / Atkins type diet about 10 years ago. I lost about 25 pounds in 6 months. The problem came when I got to my desired weight and decided I could allow myself the pleasure of eating some carbs and sugar, as long as I did it on a limited basis. Once I started eating carbs again, my cravings for carbs became incredibly strong. I went from not caring about eating carbs at all, to frantically pulling everything out of the cupboards trying to find something sweet.

    One can lose weight on just about any diet. The challenge is keeping the weight off long term.

    A big problem in discussions regarding nutrition is rooted in the failure to distinguish “good carbs” from “bad carbs.” The failure to distinguish a highly nutritious sweet potato or winter squash from a bottle of Mountain Dew.

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    • December 9, 2019, at 12:39 PM PST
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  19. Pony Convertible Member

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Pony Convertible (View Comment):

    I went on a Keto / Atkins type diet about 10 years ago. I lost about 25 pounds in 6 months. The problem came when I got to my desired weight and decided I could allow myself the pleasure of eating some carbs and sugar, as long as I did it on a limited basis. Once I started eating carbs again, my cravings for carbs became incredibly strong. I went from not caring about eating carbs at all, to frantically pulling everything out of the cupboards trying to find something sweet.

    One can lose weight on just about any diet. The challenge is keeping the weight off long term.

    A big problem in discussions regarding nutrition is rooted in the failure to distinguish “good carbs” from “bad carbs.” The failure to distinguish a highly nutritious sweet potato or winter squash from a bottle of Mountain Dew.

    I never drink soft drinks. I stopped that about 20 years ago. My triglycerides were in the 600-800 range. I stopped drinking soft drinks at my levels have stayed around 150 since.

    • #19
    • December 10, 2019, at 6:25 AM PST
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  20. HeavyWater Coolidge

    Pony Convertible (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Pony Convertible (View Comment):

    I went on a Keto / Atkins type diet about 10 years ago. I lost about 25 pounds in 6 months. The problem came when I got to my desired weight and decided I could allow myself the pleasure of eating some carbs and sugar, as long as I did it on a limited basis. Once I started eating carbs again, my cravings for carbs became incredibly strong. I went from not caring about eating carbs at all, to frantically pulling everything out of the cupboards trying to find something sweet.

    One can lose weight on just about any diet. The challenge is keeping the weight off long term.

    A big problem in discussions regarding nutrition is rooted in the failure to distinguish “good carbs” from “bad carbs.” The failure to distinguish a highly nutritious sweet potato or winter squash from a bottle of Mountain Dew.

    I never drink soft drinks. I stopped that about 20 years ago. My triglycerides were in the 600-800 range. I stopped drinking soft drinks at my levels have stayed around 150 since.

    Right. Maple syrup, sugar, brown sugar, high fructose corn syrup. Those are all highly refined “foods” and are 100 percent carbohydrate.

    Sweet Potatoes, Winter Squash, beans, brown rice, oats. Those are relatively unrefined foods which consist of protein, fat and carbohydrate (though a majority of the calories are carbohydrate calories).

    My point is just that “the carbs are bad for you” mantra is an oversimplification. The healthiest foods that we can possibly eat are high carb foods. But when we process these foods and refine them and then mix them in with a bunch of fat we end up with . . . . . . . a donut or French fries.

     

    • #20
    • December 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM PST
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  21. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    iWe (View Comment):

    Breakfast: Cheese-mushroom-smoked salmon omelette fried in butter served with oodles of sour cream on top. Incredible. And coffee with heavy cream.

    Lunch. I always have an avocado, perhaps with some salad dressing or a splash of lemon juice. Perhaps some more smoked fish, or nuked Facon. Or nuked leftover dinner (see “Dinner”). Or a hunk of cheese.

    Dinner (when I have it): Wings, or hot dogs or kaftas or meat sauce. When I am feeling rich, steak.

    Snacks: Raw pecans at my desk. Occasional shots of cream. And 1-2 shots of scotch (keto-friendly!!!) a few times a week.

    Isn’t there sugar in Scotch? Please advise. I am thinking I will try this – of course not til after the holidays.

    But if a diet includes Scotch – what’s not to like? If part of the diet is oppressive, there is always Scotch!

    • #21
    • December 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM PST
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  22. Phil Turmel Coolidge

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):
    Isn’t there sugar in Scotch?

    Hardly any.

    • #22
    • December 11, 2019, at 12:47 PM PST
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