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Why are Leftist women so angry? Obviously trying to nullify 60 million or so votes is hard work, I get that. I watched the entire hearing today and there were moments that my eye’s started to glaze over several times during this sideshow. Jonathan Turley smiled at times, but the three Leftist activist law professors were grim and humorless. They were hardly happy warriors. They were actually poster children for recreational marijuana use and a government-provided Lava Lamp. Stare at the lamp, take a deep breath, and relax. Have another brownie.

Yep, I’m a deplorable, but I know when I’m being fed nonsense. My favorite moment was when Barron Trump was dragged into the fray. This woman has some serious anger issues. Notre Dame has Law Professor Amy Coney Barrett, Stanford has Pamela Karlan. Remember that when your kid wants to go to a law school.

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  1. PHCheese Member

    I watched some of the circus. Karlan lost all credibility with me when she spouted the old saw about Trump asking the Russians to look for HRC emails during one of his campaign events. It was a joke for heavens sake. Which is what she is.

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    • December 4, 2019, at 7:04 PM PST
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  2. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Karlan going from Palo Alto to Washington may be a 3,o00 mile flight, but it’s one where she never has to leave her progressive bubble. It wouldn’t be a shock if the Barron Trump line didn’t make its debut today, but has been trotted out at least a couple of times before by Karlan to her like-minded TDS sufferers, who affirmed it was a knee-slapper and a great way for her to win favor with the masses at the hearings with her pithy and scathing wit.

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    • December 4, 2019, at 7:15 PM PST
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  3. Full Size Tabby Member

    It’s not just the women. Note that Bernie Sanders is perpetually angry.

    Though it is particularly noticeable (and grating) on women, because normal women are loving and nurturing creatures, and perpetual anger is incompatible with love and nurture. 

    These women got their psychological wires mixed up, either through some unfortunate accident of biology, or through some significant abuse of their minds. 

     

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    • December 4, 2019, at 7:38 PM PST
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  4. Randy Webster Member

    With any luck, Amy Coney Barrett won’t be at Notre Dame much longer.

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    • December 4, 2019, at 8:46 PM PST
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  5. Brian Watt Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    It’s not just the women. Note that Bernie Sanders is perpetually angry.

    Though it is particularly noticeable (and grating) on women, because normal women are loving and nurturing creatures, and perpetual anger is incompatible with love and nurture.

    These women got their psychological wires mixed up, either through some unfortunate accident of biology, or through some significant abuse of their minds.

    Perhaps the numbers of loving and nurturing women diminished substantially since the rise of the feminist movement, the availability of the pill, the sexual revolution of the late ’60s, the rise of homosexuality and lesbianism, and the Roe v Wade decision which has resulted in over 60 million abortions. It becomes a toxic brew for anger and bitterness. It’s just a wild guess, but I would posit that women who embraced all of that aren’t likely (as a general rule) to be inclined to be loving and nurturing.

    These are the same angry and bitter women who have taken over the humanities in universities and the reason why so many young men are dropping out of college rather than be targets of their rage. (See also various lectures by Jordan Peterson or Camille Paglia).

    From Professor Karlan’s Wikipedia entry:

    Karlan told Politico in 2009, “It’s no secret at all that I’m counted among the LGBT crowd”.[12] She has described herself as an example of “snarky, bisexual, Jewish women”.[13] Her partner is writer Viola Canales.[14]

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    • December 4, 2019, at 9:01 PM PST
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  6. Doctor Robert Member

    What a loser.

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    • December 4, 2019, at 10:28 PM PST
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  7. Blondie Thatcher

    Libs are never happy and don’t want you to be either. Seeing you happy and smiling makes them even more angry. Have you ever seen them truly happy? I don’t think they know how to be. It’s always one crisis after another. 

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    • December 5, 2019, at 4:36 AM PST
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  8. Columbo Member

    Vindictive, petty and angry is no way to go through life Pam.

     

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    • December 5, 2019, at 5:15 AM PST
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  9. EODmom Coolidge

    One of the most obvious things displayed at these events is how mediocre are the intellects of the Democrats and their representatives. They are just not smart. And they are either not well educated or unwilling to accept what they’ve been taught. Snark and sarcasm isn’t smart. It’s at best lazy. They went to the same crowd they brought in for the Kavanaugh hearings. Did they really think no one was watching while they tried to slip the knife into the President? 

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    • December 5, 2019, at 5:29 AM PST
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  10. Kay of MT Member

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    It’s not just the women. Note that Bernie Sanders is perpetually angry.

    Though it is particularly noticeable (and grating) on women, because normal women are loving and nurturing creatures, and perpetual anger is incompatible with love and nurture.

    These women got their psychological wires mixed up, either through some unfortunate accident of biology, or through some significant abuse of their minds.

    Perhaps the numbers of loving and nurturing women diminished substantially since the rise of the feminist movement, the availability of the pill, the sexual revolution of the late ’60s, the rise of homosexuality and lesbianism, and the Roe v Wade decision which has resulted in over 60 million abortions. It becomes a toxic brew for anger and bitterness. It’s just a wild guess, but I would posit that women who embraced all of that aren’t likely (as a general rule) to be inclined to be loving and nurturing.

    These are the same angry and bitter women who have taken over the humanities in universities and the reason why so many young men are dropping out of college rather than be targets of their rage. (See also various lectures by Jordan Peterson or Camille Paglia).

    From Professor Karlan’s Wikipedia entry:

    Karlan told Politico in 2009, “It’s no secret at all that I’m counted among the LGBT crowd”.[12] She has described herself as an example of “snarky, bisexual, Jewish women”.[13] Her partner is writer Viola Canales.[14]

    She is a poor excuse for a Jew, she makes me sick.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 7:02 AM PST
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  11. Kozak Member
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    Doug Watt: Why are Leftist women so angry?

    Because they don’t have any real men in their lives. Just Lefty, Soy Boy, Beta Males.

    There. Said it..

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    • December 5, 2019, at 9:20 AM PST
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  12. James Hageman Moderator

    I’ve had to throw away my Stanford Law School coffee mug over this.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 9:23 AM PST
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  13. David Foster Member
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    “snarky”…Jon Gabriel wrote a whole post about snarkiness back in 2016. Snark is closely related to sarcasm, about which Field Marshall Lord Wavell wrote in his little book on generalship:

    Explosions of temper do not necessarily ruin a general’s reputation or influence with his troops; it is almost expected of them (“the privileged irascibility of senior officers,” someone has written), and it is not always resented, sometimes even admired, except by those immediately concerned. But sarcasm is always resented and seldom forgiven. (emphasis added) In the Peninsula the bitter sarcastic tongue of Craufurd, the brilliant but erratic leader of the Light Division, was much more wounding and feared than the more violent outbursts of Picton, a rough, hot-tempered man….(the general) should never indulge in sarcasm, which is being clever at someone else’s expense, and always offends.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 9:25 AM PST
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  14. Full Size Tabby Member

    EODmom (View Comment):

    One of the most obvious things displayed at these events is how mediocre are the intellects of the Democrats and their representatives. They are just not smart. And they are either not well educated or unwilling to accept what they’ve been taught. Snark and sarcasm isn’t smart. It’s at best lazy. They went to the same crowd they brought in for the Kavanaugh hearings. Did they really think no one was watching while they tried to slip the knife into the President?

    On the rare occasions on which I listen to any portion of Congressional hearings, I remind myself that I should never, ever appear at such a thing. There are so many times that, were I a witness, I would find it impossible to resist the temptation to stand up, tell the Congressperson or Senator, “You are ignorant and, since you can’t follow basic logic, probably stupid. And your questions shows that your ignorance and stupidity has led you to become a bigot.” And then I would storm out of the room. 

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    • December 5, 2019, at 9:36 AM PST
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  15. Kozak Member
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    James Hageman (View Comment):

    I’ve had to throw away my Stanford Law School coffee mug over this.

    Don’t feel too bad.

    I’m an alum of U of I Chicago, where Bill Ayers “worked”.

    And Northwestern Univ, where Bernadine Dohrn “worked”.

    Neither school sees a penny from me.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 9:43 AM PST
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  16. David Foster Member
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    Karlan implied that Trump wanted to create ‘titles of nobility’, and threw in a snarky comment about his son. Actually, the closest thing to a title of nobility in the US today is an Ivy League degree. And ALL of the pro-Democrat professor witnesses attended Yale at some point in their educations.

    Peter Drucker wrote back in 1969 that one of the main advantages America had over Europe was that we *did not* have an educational system in which there are a few colleges with a monopoly on social standing and on key positions in society:

    One thing it (modern society) cannot afford in education is the “elite institution” which has a monopoly on social standing, on prestige, and on the command positions in society and economy. Oxford and Cambridge are important reasons for the English brain drain. A main reason for the technology gap is the Grande Ecole such as the Ecole Polytechnique or the Ecole Normale. These elite institutions may do a magnificent job of education, but only their graduates normally get into the command positions. Only their faculties “matter.” This restricts and impoverishes the whole society…The Harvard Law School might like to be a Grande Ecole and to claim for its graduates a preferential position. But American society has never been willing to accept this claim…

    We as a country are a lot closer to accepting Grande Ecole status for Harvard Law School and similar institutions than we were when Drucker wrote the above.

    Drucker continues:

    It is almost impossible to explain to a European that the strength of American higher education lies in this absence of schools for leaders and schools for followers. It is almost impossible to explain to a European that the engineer with a degree from North Idaho A. and M. is an engineer and not a draftsman.

     

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    • December 5, 2019, at 9:54 AM PST
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  17. Theodoric of Freiberg Member

    Doug Watt: They were actually poster children for recreational marijuana use and a government-provided Lava Lamp. Stare at the lamp, take a deep breath, and relax. Have another brownie.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 10:18 AM PST
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  18. Jon1979 Lincoln

    David Foster (View Comment):

    Karlan implied that Trump wanted to create ‘titles of nobility’, and threw in a snarky comment about his son. Actually, the closest thing to a title of nobility in the US today is an Ivy League degree. And ALL of the pro-Democrat professor witnesses attended Yale at some point in their educations.

    Peter Drucker wrote back in 1969 that one of the main advantages America had over Europe was that we *did not* have an educational system in which there are a few colleges with a monopoly on social standing and on key positions in society:

    It is almost impossible to explain to a European that the strength of American higher education lies in this absence of schools for leaders and schools for followers. It is almost impossible to explain to a European that the engineer with a degree from North Idaho A. and M. is an engineer and not a draftsman.

    That phenomenon is probably tied to the fact that we have more news execs in print and TV who also were recruited from Ivy League schools, as opposed to the old days where news people tended to start off either without or with far more limited college credentialing, and were promoted based on their performance, not on their education lineage. The media people making decisions on what people they cover tend to have a tribal loyalty towards the schools they also attended. So they see themselves as part of the aristocracy, and not as the ones holding the wanna-be aristocrats to account.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 10:21 AM PST
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  19. David Foster Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    That phenomenon is probably tied to the fact that we have more news execs in print and TV who also were recruited from Ivy League schools, as opposed to the old days where news people tended to start off either without or with far more limited college credentialing, and were promoted based on their performance, not on their education lineage. The media people making decisions on what people they covers tend to have a tribal loyalty towards the schools they also attended. So they see themselves as part of the aristocracy, and not as the ones holding the wanna-be aristocrats to account.

    Yes…the US seems to be developing something like the “old school tie” phenomenon, as it existed…and probably still exists…in the UK.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 10:32 AM PST
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  20. David Foster Member
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    One point about anger: It seems likely that men on the average have learned to suppress their feelings of anger better than women on the average have, because among boys, verbal aggression might yield a physical response. This is less-true than it was, given today’s school and parenting environment….but on the other hand, verbal anger by women is being positively *encouraged* by a lot of sources.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 10:34 AM PST
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  21. Percival Thatcher
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    One of the most obvious things displayed at these events is how mediocre are the intellects of the Democrats and their representatives. They are just not smart. And they are either not well educated or unwilling to accept what they’ve been taught. Snark and sarcasm isn’t smart. It’s at best lazy. They went to the same crowd they brought in for the Kavanaugh hearings. Did they really think no one was watching while they tried to slip the knife into the President?

    On the rare occasions on which I listen to any portion of Congressional hearings, I remind myself that I should never, ever appear at such a thing. There are so many times that, were I a witness, I would find it impossible to resist the temptation to stand up, tell the Congressperson or Senator, “You are ignorant and, since you can’t follow basic logic, probably stupid. And your questions shows that your ignorance and stupidity has led you to become a bigot.” And then I would storm out of the room.

    I wouldn’t want to appear before them to give testimony because I doubt that I could keep a straight face during the questions.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 10:36 AM PST
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  22. Bill Nelson Member

    Blondie (View Comment):

    Libs are never happy and don’t want you to be either. Seeing you happy and smiling makes them even more angry. Have you ever seen them truly happy? I don’t think they know how to be. It’s always one crisis after another.

    First, yes I have seen progressives truly happy. Two of my children are progressives and are very happy and quite successful.

    I believe that progressives do have a slightly darker, and different, view of the world. When something happens many people, even some conservatives, will respond with “there ought to be a law”. But a conservative will see solutions outside of government. So a person who works within a charity or a church, to help people will not see those who are not part of that group as “evil” or even wrong. But a progressive will see the solution in government, and those who do not support these solutions are those who are working against the solutions, and are “not good people”. Because a progressive sees government as the one thing we are all part of, while a conservative sees government as a necessary tool (best used in minimal ways) but it is not something they are a “part of”.

    Progressives are not “bad people”, they are just wrong about actions to reach solutions.

     

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    • December 5, 2019, at 10:45 AM PST
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  23. The Reticulator Member

    Bill Nelson (View Comment):
    Progressives are not “bad people”, they are just wrong about actions to reach solutions.

    Good points in this comment, worthy of a “like”. But Progs are also wrong about identifying the problems and about identifying what constitutes a solution, not just the means to reach solutions.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 11:41 AM PST
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  24. Limestone Cowboy Coolidge
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    It’s not just the women. Note that Bernie Sanders is perpetually angry.

    Though it is particularly noticeable (and grating) on women, because normal women are loving and nurturing creatures, and perpetual anger is incompatible with love and nurture.

    These women got their psychological wires mixed up, either through some unfortunate accident of biology, or through some significant abuse of their minds.

     

    I’m not sure the it’s a left-right thing, even though at times it appears to be so. I see it more as about where politics/ideology (PI) fall in a person’s hierarchy of values. If PI is at or very near the top, then differences in PI are more threatening and will arouse anger more readily. If, on the other hand values such as, say, child welfare or education are substantially higher on the hierarchy than PI, proposals about (for example) charter schools or school lunch programs can be seen as proposals about which reasonable people may disagree or compromise without all of the vitriol.

    At the current time, as evidenced by the Democrats nominating process, PI is much higher in the values hierarchy of the left but there’s still plenty of venom on the right.

     

     

     

     

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  25. David Foster Member
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    Limestone Cowboy (View Comment):
    I’m not sure the it’s a left-right thing, even though at times it appears to be so. I see it more as about where politics/ideology (PI) fall in a person’s hierarchy of values. If PI is at or very near the top, then differences in PI are more threatening and will arouse anger more readily.

    I think there are some people who are just *angry* and who will adopt whichever political ideology best allows them to express that anger. Here’s an interesting example: 

    In 1933, the British traveler Patrick Leigh Fermor, while in Germany, met a friendly man who invited Paddy to stay over at in spare bed at his place. It turned out that there was Nazi regalia everywhere, and an SA uniform hanging neatly ironed.

    When Paddy “It said that it must be rather claustrophobic with all that stuff on the walls”, he laughed and sat down on his bed and said: “Mensch! You should have seen it last year! You would have laughed! Then it was all red flags, stars, hammers and sickles, pictures or Lenin and Stalin and Workers of the World, Unite!” He went on to say that he and his friends “We used to beat hell out of the Nazis, and they beat the hell out of us…Then suddenly, when Hitler came into power, I understood it was all nonsense and lies. I realized Adolf was the man for me!” His old friends had all changed sides as well; the only problem he saw was that there were hardly and socialists or communists left to beat up. His parents did not share his enthusiasm, he said; they were “old-fashioned,” with his father still talking about the greatness of Bismarck and the Kaiser and Hindenburg and his mother focused only on the church. 

     

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    • December 5, 2019, at 3:12 PM PST
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  26. The Reticulator Member

    David Foster (View Comment):

     

    In 1933, the British traveler Patrick Leigh Fermor, while in Germany, met a friendly man who invited Paddy to stay over at in spare bed at his place. It turned out that there was Nazi regalia everywhere, and an SA uniform hanging neatly ironed.

    When Paddy “It said that it must be rather claustrophobic with all that stuff on the walls”, he laughed and sat down on his bed and said: “Mensch! You should have seen it last year! You would have laughed! Then it was all red flags, stars, hammers and sickles, pictures or Lenin and Stalin and Workers of the World, Unite!” He went on to say that he and his friends “We used to beat hell out of the Nazis, and they beat the hell out of us…Then suddenly, when Hitler came into power, I understood it was all nonsense and lies. I realized Adolf was the man for me!” His old friends had all changed sides as well; the only problem he saw was that there were hardly and socialists or communists left to beat up. His parents did not share his enthusiasm, he said; they were “old-fashioned,” with his father still talking about the greatness of Bismarck and the Kaiser and Hindenburg and his mother focused only on the church.

     

    Is that from a book you’ve read?

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    • December 5, 2019, at 3:14 PM PST
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  27. David Foster Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    Is that from a book you’ve read?

    Yes, Fermor’s book A Time of Gifts. I reviewed it here.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 3:38 PM PST
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  28. Randy Webster Member

    David Foster (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    Is that from a book you’ve read?

    Yes, Fermor’s book A Time of Gifts. I reviewed it here.

    I’ve read the passage before; not the book. Maybe I read it in your review.

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    • December 5, 2019, at 4:04 PM PST
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  29. Limestone Cowboy Coolidge
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    Limestone Cowboy (View Comment):
    I’m not sure the it’s a left-right thing, even though at times it appears to be so. I see it more as about where politics/ideology (PI) fall in a person’s hierarchy of values. If PI is at or very near the top, then differences in PI are more threatening and will arouse anger more readily.

    I think there are some people who are just *angry* and who will adopt whichever political ideology best allows them to express that anger…

    That surely describes Antifa rather well.

    But what I was trying to explain was the non-habitually angry person… that otherwise nice woman at your kids school who will go ballistic if you suggest that having drag queens reading to students at Lincoln Elementary may be a bad idea and who then proceeds to unload the usual epithets at you (transphobe, homophobe whatever). I don’t see that as anger in search of a cause, but as anger generated by a challenge to a deeply held world view.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  30. The Reticulator Member

    David Foster (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    Is that from a book you’ve read?

    Yes, Fermor’s book A Time of Gifts. I reviewed it here.

    I hope you are feeling properly guilty for your constant interference in my ever getting to the end of my reading queue. (I added this one to my Audible queue. So there.)

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