Quote of the Day: Being Woke

 

“The goal of our culture now is not the emancipation of the individual from the group, but the permanent definition of the individual by the group. We used to call this bigotry. Now we call it being woke.” – Andrew Sullivan

I know it is Andrew Sullivan. And he helped build the culture he is decrying in this quote. But a true statement is a true statement. If you are woke, you are a bigot. Even Andrew Sullivan realizes that.

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  1. The Dowager Jojo Inactive
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):
    He rejected the idea that gays should get preferential treatment (as minorities and women were demanding) and argued simply for full civil rights (marriage, military service) like any other citizen. I would call that a liberal position, not a woke or radical one

    I would call that a deeply conservative position. Everyone gets treated the same. No special rights, no special obligations, no special treatments based on your skin color, your sex, or whom you prefer to f*ck.

    I would call that a classically American position. Defending it is conservative.

    There are words to describe the idea that there are no special rights or obligations attendant on intimacy that can make you a mother or father. The words are definitely not “conservative” or “classically American.”

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  2. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    The Dowager Jojo (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):
    He rejected the idea that gays should get preferential treatment (as minorities and women were demanding) and argued simply for full civil rights (marriage, military service) like any other citizen. I would call that a liberal position, not a woke or radical one

    I would call that a deeply conservative position. Everyone gets treated the same. No special rights, no special obligations, no special treatments based on your skin color, your sex, or whom you prefer to f*ck.

    I would call that a classically American position. Defending it is conservative.

    There are words to describe the idea that there are no special rights or obligations attendant on intimacy that can make you a mother or father. The words are definitely not “conservative” or “classically American.”

    I agree with Jojo.  There is nothing conservative about supporting the homosexual agenda, in my estimation.

    There is a deep confusion in equating sexual orientation with race.  Sexual behavior is a question of behavior, which makes it a “content of your character” issue, not a “color of your skin” issue.

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  3. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    My recollection of 2004 was that Andrew was so angered by the passage of DOMA and Bush’s signing of it that he flipped like a light switch to Team Kerry, even before there was serious Iraq War skepticism.

    . . .

    I’m not sure what you’re talking about regarding DOMA.  DOMA was passed in 1996 and signed into law by Clinton.

     

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  4. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    My recollection of 2004 was that Andrew was so angered by the passage of DOMA and Bush’s signing of it that he flipped like a light switch to Team Kerry, even before there was serious Iraq War skepticism.

    . . .

    I’m not sure what you’re talking about regarding DOMA. DOMA was passed in 1996 and signed into law by Clinton.

    You’re right — The incident I was thinking off that turned Sullivan into a Kerry supporter was Bush coming out in 2004 in favor of a constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage.

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  5. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    My recollection of 2004 was that Andrew was so angered by the passage of DOMA and Bush’s signing of it that he flipped like a light switch to Team Kerry, even before there was serious Iraq War skepticism.

    . . .

    I’m not sure what you’re talking about regarding DOMA. DOMA was passed in 1996 and signed into law by Clinton.

    You’re right — The incident I was thinking off that turned Sullivan into a Kerry supporter was Bush coming out in 2004 in favor of a constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage.

    Thanks for the correction.  That makes sense.  Personally, I wish that we had passed such an amendment in 1996.

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