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Democrats Impeaching Trump Because Orange Man Bad
Donald Trump’s haters have been demanding his impeachment since the day of his inauguration. To that end they have cast about wildly for any reason imaginable. And in the process they have attempted to criminalize the normal actions of the president.
They just don’t like Trump. The Democrats, of course, but also the NeverTrumpers, just want him gone. There have been so many attempts that it is almost too hard to list them all. The Mueller investigation, of course. Remember how Trump was going to be impeached because of the Mueller report? Remember that the next time you hear a news report about a poll showing how the number of Americans who support impeaching the president has supposedly increased since six months ago. All that means is that some Americans, otherwise known as Democrats, wanted to impeach Trump for Russian Collusion before and now want to impeach Trump for Ukrainian…something. They want to impeach Trump no matter the reason and no matter the facts.
Congressional Democrats held a vote on impeachment earlier this year because Trump tweeted about Alexandria Occasional-Cortex, Ilhan Whosemyhusband, Rashida Tableface, and the other one that no one cares about. (Spoiler alert: tweeting is not a high Crime and Misdemeanor).
The current impeachment frenzy was set off when a so-called “whistleblower” ratted on Trump to the intelligence community inspector general over a phone call with the president of Ukraine. The weird thing is, though, that the intelligence community inspector general doesn’t outrank the president of the United States. In fact, the intelligence community whistleblower protection act does not apply to the president. Furthermore, the “whistleblower,” who ReaClearInvestigations and others have identified as an Obama holdover named Eric Ciaramella, had no first-hand knowledge of the phone call. (He’s also suspected by some of being the leaker of parts of the transcripts of Trump’s conversations with the prime minister of Australia and the president of Mexico.)
But when President Trump released the official transcript of the phone call, the claims made by Ciaramella were shown to be false. We can all read the transcript of the call and the “whistleblower” complaint ourselves. Those of us who have read the phone transcript have more first-hand knowledge than Ciaramella did.
How many transcripts of presidential phone calls have you ever read? I’ve read one. This one. When people criticize the call, I roll my eyes. What do they know? Nothing. They have nothing to compare the call to. If they say the call was bad, all that means is they don’t like Trump. And by the way, it’s fine to not like Trump. This is America! However, not liking the president is not a reason to impeach him. I didn’t like Obama. That wasn’t a reason to impeach him.
Even when Obama made foreign policy decisions that I disagreed with, that still wasn’t a reason to impeach him. And there were a lot of those: the apology tour, cancelling missile defense to Poland, Libya, Syria, sending billions of dollars to Iran. And, by the way, Obama withheld military aid to Ukraine. The very thing Trump is accused of — withholding aid to Ukraine — Obama did. And, Actually, Trump sent lethal weapons to Ukraine in 2017. (Something the “Trump’s Putin’s puppet” people never managed to process.)
There was nothing wrong with Trump’s phone call with the Ukrainian President, but Democrats don’t like him so they’re trying to impeach him.
They should have just run it through an ordinary committee and then censored Trump instead of this abomination. Really what this is about is, he lacks civic skill and knowledge. Easy win.
Except that is not big enough to fight what’s coming out from Durham.
I see this as just proof that Sykes is not interested in being a fair actor. He is simply engaging in tribal politics. His tribe is anti-trump. He complains not just about the pro-trump people but anyone who is not anti-trump.
In comment 46 @petty shows that it is possible to dislike Trump and not unnecessarily attack Republicans.
You don’t have to go left of center in your talking points to be anti-trump. Especially not if you are claiming to be a conservative website.
There must be many, many people you are disappointed in. Must be so…. disappointing!
When the impeachment process started in 1973 after the Saturday Night Massacre, Nixon was quite secure. It was only after he had the support of less than 1/3 of the Senate did he resign.
Max, I respect you. You do your job with favor or disfavor and play it straight. If you don’t like her, this is relevant to me.
I don’t trust Haley. I think she’d stab Trump in the back if it suited her. She’s not a great ally, saying that asking a foreign country to investigate a n American citizen is never ok. That’s absurd. Of course we ask other governments for assistance all the time. Why do we have FBI offices all over the world? And why did she go on liberal CBS News to launch her book? Mark Levin said he reached out to her to give her an hour on Life, Liberty & Levin and also radio and she declined. Also she’s pretty boring. She’s not good at public speaking and her writing (op-eds, I have not read her book) are boring and cautious. She’s too much of a politician for me.
That only works if you redefine “personal advantage” as “doing an excellent job as president and investigating corruption”. And that’s “personal” because it would help in his reelection.
“Personal advantage” actually means receiving money. Or gifts. Directly, or indirectly. Through contributions to a “foundation”. Or as a no-show $1 million / year job for a family member.
How crazy with the language do you have to be to even consider such a thing? It only works in a parallel universe where you redefine “up” as “down”.
My point is there was a discrete known crime that everyone wanted to investigate. It was bipartisan.
I left one thing out. You aren’t supposed to use it to override elections.
I highly recommend Sebastian Gorka’s breakdown of Rep. John Radcliffe’s questions and his interview of Matthew Boyle if you want some excellent analysis of the impeachment. It’s all free, but I think it’s better accessed on the podcast sites because his YouTube account is a little bit screwed up right now. Thursday show.
If you get Sirius XM, listen to Joel Pollack on Breitbart News from last night. Really excellent on impeachment. He made two major points. It’s not supposed to be political. It should be an offense against society. Supposedly he got that from Alexander Hamilton. If Trump is ragging on Ukraine to go after corruption efficiently with our money, it’s not an offense against society.
Nobody who quotes Dana Milbank should be taken seriously.
I didn’t fully remember who this was, initially. Thank you.
I think it was Taylor himself who said he heard everything he knows.
Democrats are impeaching Trump based on . . . what polls best. Neat.
It’s so obvious that they aren’t following the Founder’s intent. It just takes a little research.
President Trump agrees to meet Ukraine’s Zelenskyy without preconditions, White House transcript shows
President Trump in April agreed to meet with Ukraine’s president-elect — without preconditions – in the first official phone call between the two leaders, according to a White House transcript released Friday morning.
They have really done a number on the Republic since about 2004.
The video clip here is something to see. Schiff refusing to let Republicans ask questions, or even speak.
Listen to the end for Jim Jordan’s “Holy cow!”
It’s not a trial, so the President isn’t entitled to due process, fine
You can’t turn around and say witness intimidation when there’s no trial and Schiff’s doing the intimidating
Mair is an anti-Trump Republican campaign consultant and lawyer.
Chip Roy is insanely smart.
The phrase “quid pro quo” is not in the Constitution as a grounds for impeachment. However, “bribery” is a ground for impeachment.
Yes, this is now impeachment by what polls best for Democrats.
Why do they keep changing it? All they have to do is sell the public on what he actually did as damaging the country. It’s patently disingenuous.
They still haven’t found an actual crime.
Is that why the Schiff Committee is now pretending Trump offered / accepted a bribe? Because they finally realized firing an ambassador and trying to get the State Department to follow Presidential directives on diplomacy was within the powers of the Presidency and not impeachable as a high crime or misdemeanor?
Wow. Maybe they are capable of figuring out something. But nah. They still have not figured out a pretend crime is not a real one.