Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Recall Effort on CA Gov. Newsom Underway; Who Should Replace Him?

 

The recall effort to bring down Gov. Newsom here in California is less than two weeks old and already has over a quarter of a million signatures. Citizens need to sign the petitions for the recall and succeed in having 1 million-plus signatures. This means we must go for 2.5 million, as many signatures will be discredited. Our deadline is February 2020.

Of course, should the movement be successful, then we need to figure out who would be a decent replacement?

Someone mentioned this man over at Facebook: “we’d better come up with ideas as to whom we are going to replace Newsom with. I don’t know if he would do it, but Sacramento’s retired Sheriff John McGinness would be an awesome start. He’s honest and been through the political machine.”

That poster had me at “honest.”

Do others here have any thoughts on this?

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  1. Brian Watt Member

    James Woods.

    • #1
    • October 19, 2019, at 2:08 PM PST
    • 13 likes
  2. Unsk Member

    Sign me up. Where can I get a petition? These petitions can be tricky particularly with the Dems thoroughly in charge. It’s generally a good idea to get roughly more than 50% more signatures or there abouts than you need because the Ruling Class with definitely challenge each and every one of the signatures they can.

    • #2
    • October 19, 2019, at 2:21 PM PST
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  3. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Just putting up how the governor did not mind this addition to the failing utility receiving a rate hike:

    April 25th, 2019
    SAN FRANCISCO (KTVU) – In the California Public Utilities Commission meeting Thursday, the five commissioner’s voted unanimously to allow PG&E to add more than a third of a billion dollars to customers’ bills.

    The utility said it’s gratified that the CPUC believed it and granted reasonable and fair request.

    https://www.ktvu.com/news/cpuc-votes-unanimously-to-allow-pge-rate-hikes?fbclid=IwAR1Pi9X9pNiUFQM3rgCd_K0CyRAFtlbHzqbTnRBZtxqzgQ_pt66UW0w4ues

    • #3
    • October 19, 2019, at 2:27 PM PST
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  4. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Unsk (View Comment):

    Sign me up. Where can I get a petition? These petitions can be tricky particularly with the Dems thoroughly in charge. It’s generally a good idea to get roughly more than 50% more signatures or there abouts than you need because the Ruling Class with definitely challenge each and every one of the signatures they can.

    Recall Gavin Newsom, on Facebook is a “closed” group so all you need to do is to hit the join button (or maybe it is “request to join”) on the homepage and you will then get sent via FB a small questionnaire. It took abt 60 seconds to fill out the questionnaire – no personal info required.

    My spouse has more info for people not on FB, and as soon as he gets home, I’ll post it here.

     

    • #4
    • October 19, 2019, at 2:31 PM PST
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  5. ctlaw Coolidge

    Don’t know. But what’s the over/under on how many times the candidate failed the California bar?

     

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    • October 19, 2019, at 2:33 PM PST
    • 4 likes
  6. namlliT noD Member

    Peter Thiel

     

     

    • #6
    • October 19, 2019, at 3:32 PM PST
    • 11 likes
  7. RushBabe49 Thatcher

    Victor Davis Hanson.

    • #7
    • October 19, 2019, at 3:56 PM PST
    • 11 likes
  8. PHCheese Member

     Arnold!

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    • October 19, 2019, at 3:56 PM PST
    • 1 like
  9. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 4:06 PM PST
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  10. Doug Watt Member

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    Governed or ruled, there is a difference. California is a microcosim of rural voters versus the sheer number of voters in urban areas. I’ve always been struck by California’s success in getting Republicans removed from the ballot on what I believe is an unconstitutional primary ballot system. That, and California’s success in reducing their felony crime stats by classifying everything as a misdemeanor-sarcasm…sort of.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 4:27 PM PST
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  11. Retail Lawyer Member

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    The last time the lights went out systematically the CA Governor, Grey Davis, was recalled. People get really upset when the lights go off. They, myself included, are going to have to live with it for some years. There is no fast or cheap fix this time.

    The recall is just another election, so no need to worry about the “will of the people”. The people are slow on the uptake, but reality is dawning on them, and the will or the people is likely to adjust.

    • #11
    • October 19, 2019, at 7:21 PM PST
    • 7 likes
  12. Steven Seward Member

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Victor Davis Hanson.

    Good luck with that one! Californians are more likely to elect Charles Manson, and he’s not even alive.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 7:49 PM PST
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  13. James Gawron Thatcher

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    James Woods.

    Brian,

    I liked the VDH suggestion but probably VDH wouldn’t want the job. Besides, there is something inspired in your suggestion. Something about Woods…

    I think Woods is perfect for the job.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • October 19, 2019, at 8:11 PM PST
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  14. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    Carl Weathers. It’s about time for another Predator governor.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 8:33 PM PST
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  15. Joseph Stanko Member

    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    California is a microcosim of rural voters versus the sheer number of voters in urban areas.

    We should change the state Senate such that each county gets one Senator, so that rural counties would be fairly represented just like smaller states in Congress. I believe at one point the Supreme Court ruled this arrangement unconstitutional — which is patently absurd, since it directly emulates the example of the federal Senate. What’s the point of having a bicameral legislature in the first place if both houses are chosen in exactly the same way?

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    • October 19, 2019, at 8:50 PM PST
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  16. TBA Coolidge
    TBA

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    But recall is part of the system. 

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    • October 19, 2019, at 10:05 PM PST
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  17. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    What seems to be happening is that the people are becoming “truly woke.” Truly woke, as in “Why the heck should I watch people who came from the same sad piece of dirt I came from, but did it thirty years later, get free college tuition, free AFDC checks, free medical insurance and all the other goodies. Plus not have to even hold their hand out for a slap on the wrist if their drunk driving or gun wielding ends up killing someone?”

    It is the many immigrants who came here and did every thing right that may end up being the state’s salvation.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 10:17 PM PST
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  18. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    The last time the lights went out systematically the CA Governor, Grey Davis, was recalled. People get really upset when the lights go off. They, myself included, are going to have to live with it for some years. There is no fast or cheap fix this time.

    The recall is just another election, so no need to worry about the “will of the people”. The people are slow on the uptake, but reality is dawning on them, and the will or the people is likely to adjust.

    It costs a lot of money and then what? The people who are motivated to vote are the ones that want to get rid of him and they may succeed in the effort. But they weren’t enough to stop him from getting elected the first time. He is horrible and the entire election system is rigged for the Democrats, but guess what, the people voted for that too when it was put forth as a proposition. Californians have exactly the government they voted for.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 10:26 PM PST
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  19. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    TBA (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    But recall is part of the system.

    So is impeachment and I’m not at all happy about that.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 10:26 PM PST
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  20. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    The last time the lights went out systematically the CA Governor, Grey Davis, was recalled. People get really upset when the lights go off. They, myself included, are going to have to live with it for some years. There is no fast or cheap fix this time.

    The recall is just another election, so no need to worry about the “will of the people”. The people are slow on the uptake, but reality is dawning on them, and the will or the people is likely to adjust.

    It costs a lot of money and then what? The people who are motivated to vote are the ones that want to get rid of him and they may succeed in the effort. But they weren’t enough to stop him from getting elected the first time. He is horrible and the entire election system is rigged for the Democrats, but guess what, the people voted for that too when it was put forth as a proposition. Californians have exactly the government they voted for.

    Can you explain what you mean by saying the election system is rigged due to a proposition? Not sure I knew that.

    The elections here are very much flipped to show results favoring who and what the DNC desires. They avoid counting ballots when the results would favor a proposition. (Even to the tune of one million uncounted ballots.) Until we get back to a paper and pen situation, we won’t have any honesty. Counting paper ballots on electronic machinery is just silly and a recipe for the fraud the Dems excel at.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 10:41 PM PST
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  21. TBA Coolidge
    TBA

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    But recall is part of the system.

    So is impeachment and I’m not at all happy about that.

    Nor I. But I do have a gored ox in this hunt. 

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    • October 19, 2019, at 10:52 PM PST
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  22. Doctor Robert Member

    Who should replace Gavin Newsome?

    Pick a name at random from the Sacramento phone book.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 3:34 AM PST
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  23. Stad Thatcher

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret: we’d better come up with ideas as to whom we are going to replace Newsom with

    Felicity Huffman, when her time’s up . . .

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    • October 20, 2019, at 5:52 AM PST
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  24. ctlaw Coolidge

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Who should replace Gavin Newsome?

    Pick a name at random from the Sacramento phone book.

    Then pick another after the first turns out to be an illegal alien.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 5:58 AM PST
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  25. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    The last time the lights went out systematically the CA Governor, Grey Davis, was recalled. People get really upset when the lights go off. They, myself included, are going to have to live with it for some years. There is no fast or cheap fix this time.

    The recall is just another election, so no need to worry about the “will of the people”. The people are slow on the uptake, but reality is dawning on them, and the will or the people is likely to adjust.

    It costs a lot of money and then what? The people who are motivated to vote are the ones that want to get rid of him and they may succeed in the effort. But they weren’t enough to stop him from getting elected the first time. He is horrible and the entire election system is rigged for the Democrats, but guess what, the people voted for that too when it was put forth as a proposition. Californians have exactly the government they voted for.

    Can you explain what you mean by saying the election system is rigged due to a proposition? Not sure I knew that.

    The elections here are very much flipped to show results favoring who and what the DNC desires. They avoid counting ballots when the results would favor a proposition. (Even to the tune of one million uncounted ballots.) Until we get back to a paper and pen situation, we won’t have any honesty. Counting paper ballots on electronic machinery is just silly and a recipe for the fraud the Dems excel at.

    The system we have now where the top two vote getters are on the ballot was passed by the voters in 2010: https://www.openprimaries.org/research_california. In my opinion, that, along with ballot harvesting, has effectively guaranteed that no major Republican will ever be on the ballot. California is completely Democrat from its head to its toes, in all 3 branches. And in my view, the people are completely complicit. We are paying close to $5 per gallon for gas, yet when a proposition was put on the ballot to repeal the ridiculously high gas tax, it was voted down. Californians truly have the government they deserve.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 7:14 AM PST
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  26. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    As much as I despise Gavin Newsom, and I do to the depths of my soul, he was elected and is governing exactly as those who voted for him wish him to govern. If his actions are unconstitutional, they must be challenged in court, but I don’t think that the will of the people, no matter how misguided, should be overturned.

    The last time the lights went out systematically the CA Governor, Grey Davis, was recalled. People get really upset when the lights go off. They, myself included, are going to have to live with it for some years. There is no fast or cheap fix this time.

    The recall is just another election, so no need to worry about the “will of the people”. The people are slow on the uptake, but reality is dawning on them, and the will or the people is likely to adjust.

    It costs a lot of money and then what? The people who are motivated to vote are the ones that want to get rid of him and they may succeed in the effort. But they weren’t enough to stop him from getting elected the first time. He is horrible and the entire election system is rigged for the Democrats, but guess what, the people voted for that too when it was put forth as a proposition. Californians have exactly the government they voted for.

    Can you explain what you mean by saying the election system is rigged due to a proposition? Not sure I knew that.

    The elections here are very much flipped to show results favoring who and what the DNC desires. They avoid counting ballots when the results would favor a proposition. (Even to the tune of one million uncounted ballots.)SNIP

    The system we have now where the top two vote getters are on the ballot was passed by the voters in 2010: https://www.openprimaries.org/research_california. In my opinion, that, along with ballot harvesting, has effectively guaranteed that no major Republican will ever be on the ballot. California is completely Democrat from its head to its toes, in all 3 branches. And in my view, the people are completely complicit. We are paying close to $5 per gallon for gas, yet when a proposition was put on the ballot to repeal the ridiculously high gas tax, it was voted down. Californians truly have the government they deserve.

    Oh heavens to Betsy, Gossamer Cat, I totally put that “top two selection” decision out of my head, as I hated it so much.

    Despite your mention of it now ruining my breakfast, I needed to be reminded of it. That initiative has got to one of the top two most inane, unjust and undemocratic notions regarding elections ever.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 11:01 AM PST
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  27. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Attention Recall Shoppers: there seem to be two separate websites for the recall effort. As there have been two separate recall operations going on, both involving Gov Newsom.

    @gossamercat

    @ctlaw

    @ctlaw

    @doctorrobert

    Here are the two websites:

    recallnewsom.org
    recallnewsom.tv

    I am going to go off and interact with folks on Facebook to see if they know which is still up and operating and which is to be ignored.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 1:36 PM PST
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  28. Joseph Stanko Member

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):
    The system we have now where the top two vote getters are on the ballot was passed by the voters in 2010: https://www.openprimaries.org/research_california. In my opinion, that, along with ballot harvesting, has effectively guaranteed that no major Republican will ever be on the ballot.

    I think the effects of that are greatly exaggerated, in the 2018 election Republicans were on the ballot in 5 statewide races, only Lt. Governor was a Democrat vs. Democrat contest. John Cox made it to the general election, and in fact Gavin and his team were thrilled when he came in second in the primary knowing they could cruise to an easy victory against him. They spent most of their ammo during the primary attacking Democrat Villaraigosa, fearing he would’ve made a much stronger opponent in the general.

    There are also cases where the “jungle primary” system leads to two Republicans on the ballot in heavily conservative districts for state legislature. As I recall, both major parties opposed the system, so I don’t think it’s a fiendish Democrat plot to stack the deck.

    Besides, they don’t need to stack the deck, the GOP is so unpopular here that it doesn’t stand a chance even on a level playing field.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 1:43 PM PST
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  29. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):
    The system we have now where the top two vote getters are on the ballot was passed by the voters in 2010: https://www.openprimaries.org/research_california. In my opinion, that, along with ballot harvesting, has effectively guaranteed that no major Republican will ever be on the ballot.

    I think the effects of that are greatly exaggerated, in the 2018 election Republicans were on the ballot in 5 statewide races, only Lt. Governor was a Democrat vs. Democrat contest. John Cox made it to the general election, and in fact Gavin and his team were thrilled when he came in second in the primary knowing they could cruise to an easy victory against him. They spent most of their ammo during the primary attacking Democrat Villaraigosa, fearing he would’ve made a much stronger opponent in the general.

    There are also cases where the “jungle primary” system leads to two Republicans on the ballot in heavily conservative districts for state legislature. As I recall, both major parties opposed the system, so I don’t think it’s a fiendish Democrat plot to stack the deck.

    Besides, they don’t need to stack the deck, the GOP is so unpopular here that it doesn’t stand a chance even on a level playing field.

    One Republican for state wide office since it was passed, I believe. When is the last time we could vote for a Republican senator? It was supposed to lead to moderate candidates winning. Where are they?

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    • October 20, 2019, at 6:53 PM PST
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  30. Joseph Stanko Member

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    One Republican for state wide office since it was passed, I believe.

    As I said above, there were Republicans on the ballot for 5 statewide offices in 2018 alone.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 10:56 PM PST
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