Are They Going to Kavanaugh Trump?

 

When Justice Kavanaugh was nominated for the US Supreme Court, one woman came out to lie about him, and then when her story was publicized, seemingly scores of accusers came out of the woodwork to make increasingly absurd accusations. Kavanaugh has been forever tainted this way and the Democrats learned how to “put an asterisk” on a justice.

Now comes word that scores of accusers are ready to testify that Trump is using his office to enrich his businesses. Since the House is treating the impeachment like a star chamber, these accusers won’t even be cross-examined. It won’t matter if they are lying because even if they are, how will Trump be able to take action against so many liars without looking bad? Every accuser that has their lies exposed will be replaced by another ten who will make even greater lies.

Yesterday Trump mocked Pelosi as a third-rate politician. So was Josef Stalin. Neither he nor she practices politics; what they do is something other than politics. The scale of perfidy to our nation is profound.

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  1. MACHO GRANDE' (aka - Chris Cam… Coolidge
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    A smaller government would have less impact and influence over our lives.  We’re so clearly gone in the other direction, that all of this becomes a consuming thing, is the plain evidence we have gotten used to.

    I know this, and you are all witness to my knowing, because I was 7 in 1974.

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  2. Bishop Wash Member
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    I Walton (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    I was 35, a Democrat disgusted with Johnson, even worse with Carter whom I voted for the first time before voting for Reagan. I was slow learner, but back then we were all Democrats, even both Bushes. I don’t know what Trump is, but he is clearly what we need now. We may not survive the post Trump period because we may elect one of these crazy leftist Democrats. Trump must be reelected so the adults in the Democrat party nominate someone sensible or come over to the Republicans to help us clean house a few more years. If we don’t it’s over. What system in history ever returned to decentralization, except through decay and chaos which usually led to conquest. Help me out. I can’t think of any.

    That’s why Trump is the Greatest President of the Twenty First Century. 

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  3. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Compared to Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton and Obama Nixon was a choir boy.

     

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  4. Kozak Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    They have been calling for impeaching Trump since the day after he was elected. So yes, they are going to impeach him. They are going to jail anybody around him that does not help them to impeach him. There is a chance they will jail him and his family. What he did, legal or not does not matter. Laws are a joke. Trumps election has made the powers that be to prove that.

    Certain  people around here were calling for recounts, challenges, unfaithful electors, 25th Amendment use, and of course impeachment since before he was elected.

    Mueller was a nothing and they got sad, now the Star Chamber inquisition has them excited.

     

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  5. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    They have been calling for impeaching Trump since the day after he was elected. So yes, they are going to impeach him. They are going to jail anybody around him that does not help them to impeach him. There is a chance they will jail him and his family. What he did, legal or not does not matter. Laws are a joke. Trumps election has made the powers that be to prove that.

    Certain people around here were calling for recounts, challenges, unfaithful electors, 25th Amendment use, and of course impeachment since before he was elected.

    Mueller was a nothing and they got sad, now the Star Chamber inquisition has them excited.

     

    What gets me is the lack of fore thought in their response, especially from anybody that knows law.   If you can convict, throw out, fire, not hire base on hearsay and legitimize the process by backing these things on the theory that they just do not like the person.  Do they not understand they are setting the precedent for the future.   

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  6. Kozak Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    They have been calling for impeaching Trump since the day after he was elected. So yes, they are going to impeach him. They are going to jail anybody around him that does not help them to impeach him. There is a chance they will jail him and his family. What he did, legal or not does not matter. Laws are a joke. Trumps election has made the powers that be to prove that.

    Certain people around here were calling for recounts, challenges, unfaithful electors, 25th Amendment use, and of course impeachment since before he was elected.

    Mueller was a nothing and they got sad, now the Star Chamber inquisition has them excited.

     

    What gets me is the lack of fore thought in their response, especially from anybody that knows law. If you can convict, throw out, fire, not hire base on hearsay and legitimize the process by backing these things on the theory that they just do not like the person. Do they not understand they are setting the precedent for the future.

    Going to be rough on conservatives going forward.  Of course these rules won’t apply to the Left.

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  7. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge
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    Misthiocracy grudgingly (View Comment):

    In the US impeachment process, cross-examination of witnesses happens in the Senate, does it not?

    Yes and I believe there has to be the 2/3 majority vote for impeachment to occur.

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  8. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):His choice of General Michael Flynn to serve as his National Security adviser proved his commitment to a different strategy regarding endless, for profit wars….

    Where did you get the idea that we were fighting “for profit” wars? Every single time we get into a new war, the administration has to grovel in front of Congress in order to approve more government spending to fund our latest adventure, and they have to renew the process every year as long as we are involved. One of the biggest complaints from the left is that these military actions are draining our budget.

    SNIP

    I like Trump, but as far as the “Big Monied Crowd” goes, he is no different when it comes to spending our grandchildren’s inheritance.  SNIP

    As far as wars for profits, I often notice that there are things outside our military budget that must be examined.  But the military budgets  require important examination as well.

    Back in the Vietnam era, in 1969, I worked as a file clerk at 1st National Bank of Illinois. While waiting for college to start in the fall, I sat clipping the business page items in a dozen US newspapers. Raytheon to be awarded X number of millions of dollars. Ditto Honeywell. Dow Chemical. Boeing.

    I knew after two weeks of doing this that Nixon’s pledge that he had a secret way to end the war was just that: a campaign pledge. I had learned that same summer that LBJ made a cool quarter million on the 380 millions of bucks awarded by the Fed government to  Kellogg/Brown/Root for dredging Cam Rahn Bay in Vietnam.

    But by 1969, the war was on steroids, financially speaking. The US was spending some one or two billion bucks a month. The people at Raytheon, Dow Chemical, Honeywell, Boeing were now in a position to offer up many campaign contributions to the US Congress critters who kept the war going.

    Within 2 years of that job, I met my 1st husband. He’d been in Vietnam while I spent the summer w/ scissors & newspapers. Stories he & other vets told were of poorly supplied troops, inadequate communication systems. Mine-sweeping equipment that needed an enemy to use metal mines, not plastic mines as the No Vietnamese army did.

    A story made the press that the troops were getting so much money they should have supplies cut back so the war’d be won. A soldier wrote to the press: “It means I must give up the light bulb above my cot in the jungle.”

    The Vietnam war had no coherent overall strategy allowing us to  win. The fact that that war cost us only 1 to 2 billion a month now seems quaint – given how Iraq & Afghanistan military adventures have cost some 6 to 9 trillions of $$s.

    Ever since Vietnam, we’ve forgotten how to win a war. Even though we only fight 3rd world countries.

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  9. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy grudgingly (View Comment):

    In the US impeachment process, cross-examination of witnesses happens in the Senate, does it not?

    Yes and I believe there has to be the 2/3 majority vote for impeachment to occur.

    Maybe, it will be interesting to see how the Democrats interpret that law.  Laws do not mean what people think they do.  Laws mean what people in power interpret them to mean.  Conservatives like to believe that we have a “government of law and not of men”.   Unfortunately this is not true.  We have a government of men that use law to justify their desires.  Nothing more and nothing less.  

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  10. Sash Member
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    The worst they can do to him is Impeach him.  As long as the Senate stays loyal it’s all just a bunch of Democrat hot air.  But the key to keeping the Senate on the straight and narrow is constituents. They really only care about the opinions of people in thier own state… so keep pestering your Congress people to do the right thing.

    My senators are Democrats… I have contacted my local Representative who is Republican, but if you have Republican Senators… please contact them regularly and let them Know that regardless of their personal feelings about Trump, voting, not impeachment is the way to pick a President. 

    The vote is a year away, by the time it’s sent to the Senate, if it ever is, it will be less than a year, and Impeachment is unnecessary. It takes 67 to get him out of office.

    If the American people believe Trump is corrupt, he won’t win.  Let the people decide.

    Please stay in contact with your Senators, so the media isn’t who they answer to, it’s you.

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  11. Skyler Coolidge
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    Sash (View Comment):
    The worst they can do to him is Impeach him.

    Yes, @sash as a first order result.  But the realistic goal is to just keep smearing and smearing him until the election with the hope that the smears stick and one of their own is elected.

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  12. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Sash (View Comment):

    The worst they can do to him is Impeach him. As long as the Senate stays loyal it’s all just a bunch of Democrat hot air. But the key to keeping the Senate on the straight and narrow is constituents. They really only care about the opinions of people in thier own state… so keep pestering your Congress people to do the right thing.

    My senators are Democrats… I have contacted my local Representative who is Republican, but if you have Republican Senators… please contact them regularly and let them Know that regardless of their personal feelings about Trump, voting, not impeachment is the way to pick a President.

    The vote is a year away, by the time it’s sent to the Senate, if it ever is, it will be less than a year, and Impeachment is unnecessary. It takes 67 to get him out of office.

    If the American people believe Trump is corrupt, he won’t win. Let the people decide.

    Please stay in contact with your Senators, so the media isn’t who they answer to, it’s you.

    No, the worse they can do is kill him.  If they do not get their way that may happen.  Who is going to stop it?

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  13. Reformed_Yuppie Inactive
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    1. The media is often corrupt or incompetent (sometimes both!)

    2. Trump has made some questionable decisions since he announced he was running 

     

    You can actually hold both of those views at once. It’s remarkably easy, in fact. 

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  14. Skyler Coolidge
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    Reformed_Yuppie (View Comment):
    Trump has made some questionable decisions since he announced he was running

    I don’t know about that.  He seems to have made fewer than any president in my lifetime.  So far, I’m about to say he’s even better than Reagan was, but I’m going to hold off on that pronouncement for a bit longer.  Time will tell.

    What will  control that assessment will be whether he leaves office with someone who is the likes of G.H.W. Bush.  That was a disastrous legacy.

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  15. Reformed_Yuppie Inactive
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Reformed_Yuppie (View Comment):
    Trump has made some questionable decisions since he announced he was running

    I don’t know about that. He seems to have made fewer than any president in my lifetime. So far, I’m about to say he’s even better than Reagan was, but I’m going to hold off on that pronouncement for a bit longer. Time will tell.

    What will control that assessment will be whether he leaves office with someone who is the likes of G.H.W. Bush. That was a disastrous legacy.

    This is performance art. 

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  16. Franco Member
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    We are in a epistemological battle with the left. A full-on propaganda war is occurring and the left holds the air(waves) and Trump supporters hold vast territory on the ground.

    After a while, it doesn’t matter how many bombs they drop on us, it only affects our operations if we allow it to. I believe Trump supporters exist in larger numbers than is reported, and they are eager to turn out and vote . All the more with these serial attacks. 

    The click-bait agenda driven media is losing credibility on a daily basis. Simply laugh at their lies. They’re only convincing the already convinced – they aren’t winning over new people. In fact I believe these are desperate moves based on real fear of losing 2020, combined with trying to hold onto the few viewers they have who, like addicts, tune-in to the latest in the reality-drama they have manufactured starring the best villain since Darth Vader, Donald J Trump.

    Once the Democratic nominee is selected, Americans get to compare policies and competence. That comparison will be won easily by Trump. Already baked-in is people’s feelings about Trump’s personality, so that factor won’t change. If anything more negatives will come out on whoever becomes the Dem nominee. I think they’ve spent all their ammunition on Trump already.

     

     

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  17. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Franco (View Comment):

    We are in a epistemological battle with the left. A full-on propaganda war is occurring and the left holds the air(waves) and Trump supporters hold vast territory on the ground.

    After a while, it doesn’t matter how many bombs they drop on us, it only affects our operations if we allow it to. I believe Trump supporters exist in larger numbers than is reported, and they are eager to turn out and vote . All the more with these serial attacks.

    The click-bait agenda driven media is losing credibility on a daily basis. Simply laugh at their lies. They’re only convincing the already convinced – they aren’t winning over new people. In fact I believe these are desperate moves based on real fear of losing 2020, combined with trying to hold onto the few viewers they have who, like addicts, tune-in to the latest in the reality-drama they have manufactured starring the best villain since Darth Vader, Donald J Trump.

    Once the Democratic nominee is selected, Americans get to compare policies and competence. That comparison will be won easily by Trump. Already baked-in is people’s feelings about Trump’s personality, so that factor won’t change. If anything more negatives will come out on whoever becomes the Dem nominee. I think they’ve spent all their ammunition on Trump already.

     

     

    Once selected the spin will start.  Trump will lose because he is a pussy grabbing, raciest that wants to take away old people and disability benefits from all while taxing the middle class to give to his rich buddies.  

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  18. Weeping Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Once selected the spin will start. Trump will lose because he is a pussy grabbing, raciest that wants to take away old people and disability benefits from all while taxing the middle class to give to his rich buddies.

    Isn’t this what they said about him last time around? If so, why would you expect it to work this time?

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  19. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Once selected the spin will start. Trump will lose because he is a pussy grabbing, raciest that wants to take away old people and disability benefits from all while taxing the middle class to give to his rich buddies.

    Isn’t this what they said about him last time around? If so, why would you expect it to work this time?

    Because the game is rigged and they now have the tech guys in line.  I would not be surprised to see him kicked off social media before the election.  The MSM is already blanking out what he says calling it lies and liable of good men.

    he was supposed to win last time.  The game was rigged many times over but they got sloppy an blew it.  That is unlikely to happen this time.  Maybe Trumps Russian buddies can help him this time.

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  20. Skyler Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    I would not be surprised to see him kicked off social media before the election.

    Yes, I expect them to do that sometime next summer.

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