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When Justice Kavanaugh was nominated for the US Supreme Court, one woman came out to lie about him, and then when her story was publicized, seemingly scores of accusers came out of the woodwork to make increasingly absurd accusations. Kavanaugh has been forever tainted this way and the Democrats learned how to “put an asterisk” on a justice.

Now comes word that scores of accusers are ready to testify that Trump is using his office to enrich his businesses. Since the House is treating the impeachment like a star chamber, these accusers won’t even be cross-examined. It won’t matter if they are lying because even if they are, how will Trump be able to take action against so many liars without looking bad? Every accuser that has their lies exposed will be replaced by another ten who will make even greater lies.

Yesterday Trump mocked Pelosi as a third-rate politician. So was Josef Stalin. Neither he nor she practices politics; what they do is something other than politics. The scale of perfidy to our nation is profound.

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  1. Raxxalan Member

    My large negative fantasy is that the Republican office holders revert to form and get convinced by the media that they need to remove Trump thus guaranteeing the Democrats the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2020. There is a reason and a track record that causes the Republicans to be called the stupid party.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 5:12 AM PST
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  2. Ralphie Member

    They’ve been trying to Bork/Thomas/Kavannaugh everyone they think has what they imagine the Constitution allows to become dictatorial, like judges, the presidency, because that is how they use those offices. It’s ok when their guy does something outside the authority of the Constitution, but not when ours might.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 5:50 AM PST
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  3. DonG Coolidge

    The people have already voted on this. The Dems need to find a new issue.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 6:13 AM PST
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  4. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member

    DonG (View Comment):

    The people have already voted on this. The Dems need to find a new issue.

    They don’t have anything else. Take away “Orange Man Bad” and all they’re left with is an extreme leftist agenda that doesn’t play in Peoria. But “Orange Man Bad” can even get some stupid Republicans on board.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 6:15 AM PST
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  5. Arahant Member

    Skyler: Are they going to Kavanaugh Trump?

    Of course they are.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 6:34 AM PST
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  6. Stad Thatcher

    Skyler: if they are, how will Trump be able to take action against so many liars without looking bad?

    I don’t think Trump cares how he looks. He’ll take action against them . . .

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    • October 17, 2019, at 6:42 AM PST
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  7. Stad Thatcher

    Raxxalan (View Comment):
    thus guaranteeing the Democrats the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2020.

    And 2024, 2028, 2032, etc.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 6:43 AM PST
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  8. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

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    • October 17, 2019, at 6:52 AM PST
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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

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    • October 17, 2019, at 7:13 AM PST
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  10. Gary Robbins Reagan

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 7:23 AM PST
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  11. Arahant Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    Drew was born 100 and, like Merlin, has been youthening ever since.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 7:25 AM PST
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  12. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    What does your age when Nixon resigned have to do with this fake Impeachment nonsense? Why do you keep introducing non-sequiturs?

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    • October 17, 2019, at 7:27 AM PST
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  13. danok1 Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out.

    “…good that he was forced out” doesn’t mean they thought he was guilty. One could read that as they were glad the country was no longer going through the whole Watergate/impeachment crisis and could return to normal times.

    Do you mean to say that your family members later thought Nixon was guilty? If they did, you should say so.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 7:54 AM PST
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  14. Gary Robbins Reagan

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    What does your age when Nixon resigned have to do with this fake Impeachment nonsense? Why do you keep introducing non-sequiturs?

    My point is that there is a history of a corrupt President being forced from office. And believe me Nixon had his supporters like Trump did. In fact, Nixon had just won 49 states.

    Nixon went down. And Trump is going down. The Republicans who clung to Nixon went down with him. The Republicans who broke with Nixon survived. The Republicans who stick with Trump are going down with him.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 8:10 AM PST
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  15. Arahant Member

    The whole country is going down, but not because of Trump, because of the Democrats (Communists) and the so-called Republicans who love them.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 8:24 AM PST
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  16. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler Post author

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    So what you’re saying is your family has a solid history of buying into media smears?

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    • October 17, 2019, at 8:31 AM PST
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  17. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    So what you’re saying is your family has a solid history of buying into media smears?

    Let’s leave my elderly grandparents who have long since passed on out of this.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM PST
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  18. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler Post author

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    So what you’re saying is your family has a solid history of buying into media smears?

    Let’s leave my elderly grandparents who have long since passed on out of this.

    You brought them up. 

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    • October 17, 2019, at 9:19 AM PST
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  19. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Raxxalan (View Comment):

    My large negative fantasy is that the Republican office holders revert to form and get convinced by the media that they need to remove Trump thus guaranteeing the Democrats the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2020. There is a reason and a track record that causes the Republicans to be called the stupid party.

    This is why cynics, myself included, refer to our two party system as “One Big Money Party.”

    A few days before the 2016 election, a morning panel on Fox Cable were expressing their views that neither Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton were qualified to hold the office of US President.

    This puzzled me extremely. I tuned in a day later, and lo and behold! The same group of Fox Talking Heads now approved of Hillary Clinton.

    As I sat wondering why the initial rejections of both candidates had occurred, and now the harsh embargo of Hillary was being rejected, one Talking Head piped up, “Yesterday, her people contacted us to explain that she is not opposed to the Trans Pacific Plan.” (I am paraphrasing, since it has been almost 3 years since the show aired, but her acceptance of the TPP was the deciding factor in their accepting her.)

    Had Donald Trump not remained true to his pledge to get us out of the Middle East conundrum of endless wars that utilize the US treasury of our money & blood of our service people, he would not be in the conundrum he now faces.

    The top One Percent hate this man with a passion. He is no friend to the insanity of staying in Syria, or staying in Afghanistan. His choice of General Michael Flynn to serve as his National Security adviser proved his commitment to a different strategy regarding endless, for profit wars.

    Unlike Barack Obama, who delivered an extremely populist message while campaigning in WI in Oct 2008, but who then appointed Big Banking’s best friend, Tim Geithner, immediately after being elected, Trump continues to deride the Fed Reserve.

    He has reframed or is attempting to reframe America’s trade agreements. His re-negotiating our deals with China have already netted the US trade deficit a half billion dollars to our advantage.

    Congress should be currently involved in approval of the US/Mexico/Canada trade deal. This deal has already been approved by Canada’s Parliament, and its prime minister, and by the Mexican government as well. But Congress doesn’t want this re-negotiated.

    Basically for whatever reason, Trump wants to stand with our nation & do things that are an advantage to our nation. While our Big Monied crowd wants only what is good at the moment for itself. (And to hell with our children & grandchildren’s future.) The fact that leadership in both parties wants endless wars, so campaign contributions will continue to flow from the Defense Industry to war mongering Dems and “R”‘s, as well as trade deals that help only themselves, matters not at all.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 10:11 AM PST
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  20. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    They have been calling for impeaching Trump since the day after he was elected. So yes, they are going to impeach him. They are going to jail anybody around him that does not help them to impeach him. There is a chance they will jail him and his family. What he did, legal or not does not matter. Laws are a joke. Trumps election has made the powers that be to prove that.

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    • October 17, 2019, at 7:24 PM PST
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  21. Guruforhire Member

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    They have been calling for impeaching Trump since the day after he was elected. So yes, they are going to impeach him. They are going to jail anybody around him that does not help them to impeach him. There is a chance they will jail him and his family. What he did, legal or not does not matter. Laws are a joke. Trumps election has made the powers that be to prove that.

    after?

    I am trying to decide if they showed up with a stack of emails and back records a mile high if I could believe the documents are real.

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    • October 18, 2019, at 3:36 AM PST
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  22. Clifford A. Brown Contributor

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    What does your age when Nixon resigned have to do with this fake Impeachment nonsense? Why do you keep introducing non-sequiturs?

    My point is that there is a history of a corrupt President being forced from office. And believe me Nixon had his supporters like Trump did. In fact, Nixon had just won 49 states.

    Nixon went down. And Trump is going down. The Republicans who clung to Nixon went down with him. The Republicans who broke with Nixon survived. The Republicans who stick with Trump are going down with him.

    Except the real history may be one of a corrupt unelected bureaucracy and crooked judges subverting the constitutional process, undoing the election of a president they hated by an electorate they hated. 

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?327683-1/geoff-shepard-the-real-watergate-scandal

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    • October 18, 2019, at 5:00 PM PST
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  23. Clifford A. Brown Contributor

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    What does your age when Nixon resigned have to do with this fake Impeachment nonsense? Why do you keep introducing non-sequiturs?

    My point is that there is a history of a corrupt President being forced from office. And believe me Nixon had his supporters like Trump did. In fact, Nixon had just won 49 states.

    Nixon went down. And Trump is going down. The Republicans who clung to Nixon went down with him. The Republicans who broke with Nixon survived. The Republicans who stick with Trump are going down with him.

    Nonsense. Nixon twice failed to fight back against Democrats’ subversion of our constitutional republic, first in 1960, when the presidential election was obviously rigged with old fashioned ballot box stuffing, then in 1972-4 when he failed to effectively fight back against corrupt government insiders and judges.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?327683-1/geoff-shepard-the-real-watergate-scandal

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    • October 18, 2019, at 5:04 PM PST
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  24. Misthiocracy grudgingly Member

    In the US impeachment process, cross-examination of witnesses happens in the Senate, does it not?

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    • October 19, 2019, at 5:37 PM PST
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  25. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler Post author

    Misthiocracy grudgingly (View Comment):

    In the US impeachment process, cross-examination of witnesses happens in the Senate, does it not?

    Historically it happened in the House first, then the Senate would examine it independently. There’s no reason the House has to allow cross-examination though. Any cross examination would be done by the opposition, rather than the President’s lawyers, though.

    The Chief Justice sits in as the judge. Rehnquist found it distasteful and took almost no part in it when Clinton was being tried. I think a Chief Justice made of sterner stuff would be more active. Roberts is a pansy and will likely follow Rehnquist’s roll-over style.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 6:23 PM PST
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  26. Barbara Duran Member

    @Clifford A. Brown “Nonsense. Nixon twice failed to fight back against Democrats’ subversion of our constitutional republic, first in 1960, when the presidential election was obviously rigged with old fashioned ballot box stuffing, then in 1972-4 when he failed to effectively fight back against corrupt government insiders and judges.”

    Yes. Nixon believed that the country would be injured, perhaps irreparably, by ugly battles over election tampering in 1960, and an impeachment trial in the 70s. 

    You can be certain of this because I was 24 in 1960 and 38 in ’74. 

     

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    • October 19, 2019, at 7:00 PM PST
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  27. Steven Seward Member

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):His choice of General Michael Flynn to serve as his National Security adviser proved his commitment to a different strategy regarding endless, for profit wars….

    Where did you get the idea that we were fighting “for profit” wars? Every single time we get into a new war, the administration has to grovel in front of Congress in order to approve more government spending to fund our latest adventure, and they have to renew the process every year as long as we are involved. One of the biggest complaints from the left is that these military actions are draining our budget.

    Basically for whatever reason, Trump wants to stand with our nation & do things that are an advantage to our nation. While our Big Monied crowd wants only what is good at the moment for itself. (And to hell with our children & grandchildren’s future.) …

    I like Trump, but as far as the “Big Monied Crowd” goes, he is no different when it comes to spending our grandchildren’s inheritance. Trump has never been an advocate of cutting our enormous government spending or balancing the budget. This is the epitome of “wanting what is good at the moment,” as opposed to providing a fiscally stable future for our grandchildren.

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    • October 19, 2019, at 7:34 PM PST
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  28. I Walton Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Congress is not going to Kavanaugh Trump. Congress is going to Nixon Trump.

    Or do you believe that Nixon was innocent?

    Nixon’s guilt or innocence has no bearing on the Democrats’ fake Impeachment circus. Why must you keep drawing false comparisons?

    I was an adult when Nixon resigned, and I remember Republican family members supporting Nixon before he resigned who later agreed that it was good that he was forced out. How old were you in 1974? I was 22.

    I was 35, a Democrat disgusted with Johnson, even worse with Carter whom I voted for the first time before voting for Reagan. I was slow learner, but back then we were all Democrats, even both Bushes. I don’t know what Trump is, but he is clearly what we need now. We may not survive the post Trump period because we may elect one of these crazy leftist Democrats. Trump must be reelected so the adults in the Democrat party nominate someone sensible or come over to the Republicans to help us clean house a few more years. If we don’t it’s over. What system in history ever returned to decentralization, except through decay and chaos which usually led to conquest. Help me out. I can’t think of any.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 3:17 AM PST
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  29. Arahant Member

    I Walton (View Comment):
    What system in history ever returned to decentralization, except through decay and chaos which usually led to conquest. Help me out. I can’t think of any.

    Yep, since Lincoln started us on the downhill slope, we’ve just mostly skidded along.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 3:27 AM PST
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  30. Percival Thatcher

    Skyler: Yesterday Trump mocked Pelosi as a third-rate politician.

    Stalin could rob a bank. Pelosi couldn’t post date a check.

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    • October 20, 2019, at 5:10 AM PST
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