All Roe all the time

 

I think there are a lot of shaky reasons for the Democrat party to stamp their feet and scream “Impeach!.” But this has never happened from the inauguration on. Nor has the justification ever been as flimsy. We had about two weeks between the Mueller report (and the subsequent pronouncements that it was an incomplete whitewash) before we were hearing about impeaching Kavanaugh. I cannot remember ever hearing a sincere call for the impeachment of a sitting Supreme Court justice. Then we get the Ukraine reasoning (BTW, according to Biden, Obama apparently consented to Joe threatening the Ukrainians on behalf of Hunter, so there’s no principle involved.) And the beat goes on.

Democrat resistance to impeachment is theater. Pelosi could strangle the careers of Shiff and Nadler on a slow afternoon if she was serious. Conservatives shake their heads at the increasingly specious rationale for removing Trump. At about any other time in American history, this would be a very risky policy, and it may yet cost them.

I think the Democrats are terrified that Ginsburg may retire before the next inauguration. If that happened, Roe v. Wade would certainly be threatened or seriously restricted. So they want to be in a position to say that no president ever nominated a Supreme Court justice while facing a credible threat of impeachment. It protects them until they can invoke the Biden Rule in 2020.

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  1. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    Joker: I think the Democrats are terrified that Ginsburg may retire before the next inauguration. If that happened, Roe v. Wade would certainly be threatened or seriously restricted. So they want to be in a position to say that no president ever nominated a Supreme Court justice while facing a credible threat of impeachment. It protects them until they can invoke the Biden Rule in 2020.

    Interesting thought.  You may be right.

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  2. Vance Richards Inactive
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    Yes, this is about an impeachment looking for a cause, not a cause rising to the level of impeachment.

    It is interesting that since Roe the Judicial branch has become the single most political part of our government. I am that somewhere out there we could find a Democrat woman willing to testify that she was sexually assaulted by the next Supreme Court nominee, and she won’t need to wait for an actually nominee to be named to make that claim.

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  3. Stad Coolidge
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    Joker: I think the Democrats are terrified that Ginsburg may retire before the next inauguration.

    Justice Ginsburg is so adamant about not letting Trump pick a justice to replace her, she’ll stay in her seat even if she can barely breathe.  I picture her going to that courtroom in the sky long before she retires . . .

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  4. Eridemus Coolidge
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    IMAGINE! Trump is hounded for 2 years when they had nothing proven on him, but THEY can start impeachment with known video out there of Biden bragging that he had interfered in Ukraine to get a prosecutor (good or bad) fired who could affect his kid….and with nothing in the Trump transcript linking the favor asked for, to an action threatening Ukraine.

    If the dems want to have these types of sleazy impeachment games, then any rule about an impeached president is irrelevant….because removal from office IS supposed to be the antidote to disliked judicial appointments and all other bad traits held by a president worthy of removal.

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  5. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    Much to its embarrassment, it was discovered this week that the Congregation for the Causes of Saints had an open file on United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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  6. PHenry Inactive
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    Roe is certainly a big part of it, but that would have been true for any Republican president.  Trump inspires a far deeper and wider hysteria, due to the entitlement mindset on the left.  Hillary was owed this! The presidency was denied her for the One, and now that his two terms were over, she was entitled to her presidency!  Besides, there was no way Trump, of all people, could ever beat her, she was guaranteed a blowout landslide, all 52 states! 

    When the results came in on election night, and the shock and disgust and betrayal all those on the left endured, that set the stage.  He can’t be president, he just can’t! She deserves it, she earned it by standing by Bill during the Monica saga, she earned it by being pushed aside by Obama, she deserved it so much that she was already president in their minds before the election. 

    So they have spent the last 2+ years trying to reconcile their world view and sensibilities with the unthinkable truth, and they just simply rejected the truth.  They have to destroy him, remove him, erase him from history.  Or everything they ‘know’ to be true is in jeopardy.  To retain their illusions of righteousness, he must be not only discredited, but erased.  

    Reality be dam-ed. 

    No, even if he came out big for Roe and pro abortion, and nominated a feminist radical to the bench, they would still have to see him savaged.  It is essential to their identity. 

    Oh, and make no mistake, their true disgust is aimed not at Trump, but at the deplorables who elected him.  Despite the many ways they tell themselves he didn’t win legitimately, they know, in their core, that the American people chose him over =>her.  They hate us with even more fever than they do him.  We rejected them, and they are the rightful rulers of us!  Even once Trump is no longer president, they will seek to see us destroyed, marginalized, and discredited ( racist, bigot, homophobe, capitalist pigs).  

    It will get crazy after Trump wins reelection.  Especially if Hillary runs and loses to him again– can you imagine? 

     

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  7. The Reticulator Member
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    Joker: I cannot remember ever hearing a sincere call for impeachment of a sitting Supreme Court justice.

    I’m pretty sure the people who wanted to impeach Earl Warren were sincere about it.

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  8. JoelB Member
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Yes, this is about an impeachment looking for a cause, not a cause rising to the level of impeachment.

    It is interesting that since Roe the Judicial branch has become the single most political part of our government. I am that somewhere out there we could find a Democrat woman willing to testify that she was sexually assaulted by the next Supreme Court nominee, and she won’t need to wait for an actually nominee to be named to make that claim.

    @vancerichards I think that you have hit on something here. The Democrats have spent many years weaponizing the courts. Roe is not the only issue, but it is the rallying point that holds it all together. 

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  9. Stad Coolidge
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    PHenry (View Comment):
    Trump inspires a far deeper and wider hysteria, due to the entitlement mindset on the left. Hillary was owed this! The presidency was denied her for the One, and now that his two terms were over, she was entitled to her presidency! Besides, there was no way Trump, of all people, could ever beat her, she was guaranteed a blowout landslide, all 52 states!

    This statement made me realize something about Never-Trumpers.  The NTers also knew Hillary was going to win because they believed no one could possibly like Trump enough to put him in office.  When the smoke cleared and the dust settled, Trump emerged victorious.

    The Never-Trumpers continue to dump on Trump because they are upset no one listened to them and put Trump in office.  It doesn’t matter if the voters were Never-Hillary, liked Trump, or picked the lesser of two evils.  The NTers don’t like their opinions not acted on.  It’s not that we ignored them – we listened to their arguments and rejected them.

    And they don’t like it one bit . . .

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    The Never-Trumpers continue to dump on Trump because they are upset no one listened to them and put Trump in office. It doesn’t matter if the voters were Never-Hillary, liked Trump, or picked the lesser of two evils. The NTers don’t like their opinions not acted on. It’s not that we ignored them – we listened to their arguments and rejected them.

    And they don’t like it one bit . . .

    This important. We saw the leadup to this during Reagan’s administration. Reagan didn’t do anything substantive to halt the growth of the nanny state. He sometimes talked about it, but when the budgets were passed, all the progressive programs got increased funding.  

    However, to this day you can listen to grey-haired leftwingers of those days tell you about how their friends suffered under Reagan. If you ask for specifics, you get nothing. But the trauma remains. They were disrespected by Reagan and those who elected him, and the hurt runs deep.   

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  11. Eridemus Coolidge
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    Is there something rather deep that ties together the climage change hysteria and the election derangement syndrome? It’s not the CLIMATE, it’s the need to rule and get respect, etc.

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  12. Randy Webster Inactive
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    PHenry (View Comment):
    all 52 states!

    Um, I think you meant all 57.

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  13. Stad Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    However, to this day you can listen to grey-haired leftwingers of those days tell you about how their friends suffered under Reagan.

    And if you listen to the Never-Trumpers, almost all of them revere Reagan, in spite of the things he did that went wrong or failed to do (FYI I’m a big Reagan fan too).  Yet Trump is not given the same level of respect, even though his deeds match or exceed those of Ronaldus Magnus.  Why?  Because he was not “approved” by our own elite . . .

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  14. Vance Richards Inactive
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    Stad (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    However, to this day you can listen to grey-haired leftwingers of those days tell you about how their friends suffered under Reagan.

    And if you listen to the Never-Trumpers, almost all of them revere Reagan, in spite of the things he did that went wrong or failed to do (FYI I’m a big Reagan fan too). Yet Trump is not given the same level of respect, even though his deeds match or exceed those of Ronaldus Magnus. Why? Because he was not “approved” by our own elite . . .

    Nothing Trump has done rises to the level of Iran-Contra but Reagan had a much better personality so . . . 

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  15. Western Chauvinist Member
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Much to its embarrassment, it was discovered this week that the Congregation for the Causes of Saints had an open file on United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    Please tell me this is fake news!

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  16. The Reticulator Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Much to its embarrassment, it was discovered this week that the Congregation for the Causes of Saints had an open file on United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    Please tell me this is fake news!

    It’s all fake news.  That’s the only kind there is these days.

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  17. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Much to its embarrassment, it was discovered this week that the Congregation for the Causes of Saints had an open file on United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    Please tell me this is fake news!

    I don’t know if it’s “fake news.”  It’s a parody (I think).

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  18. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    Much to its embarrassment, it was discovered this week that the Congregation for the Causes of Saints had an open file on United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    Please tell me this is fake news!

    I don’t know if it’s “fake news.” It’s a parody (I think).

    Yeah, how can you tell?

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  19. Saint Augustine Member
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    I dig.

    Just remember the original Row. It’s important too.

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  20. The Reticulator Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    I dig.

    Just remember the original Row. It’s important too.

    That’s only because he hadn’t yet met John Fitch. 

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  21. WI Con Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Joker: I think the Democrats are terrified that Ginsburg may retire before the next inauguration.

    Justice Ginsburg is so adamant about not letting Trump pick a justice to replace her, she’ll stay in her seat even if she can barely breathe. I picture her going to that courtroom in the sky long before she retires . . .

    Does anyone know, legally or constitutionally, when a Judge/Justice is considered no longer capable of performing their duties and able to be removed if said person does not resign? How many sick-days, no-show days are acceptable? Does Johnny “It’s a Tax” Roberts get to decide?

    The now famous “25th Amendment” is for Presidents only, correct?

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  22. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Joker: I think the Democrats are terrified that Ginsburg may retire before the next inauguration.

    Justice Ginsburg is so adamant about not letting Trump pick a justice to replace her, she’ll stay in her seat even if she can barely breathe. I picture her going to that courtroom in the sky long before she retires . . .

    I think we’re getting into “Weekend at Bernie’s” territory as it is.

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  23. Henry Castaigne Member
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    This is why the left loves abortion. Explained fully in one minute.

    Mike Drop

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  24. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    This is why the left loves abortion.

    Egalitarianism through homogeny. Men and women are just the same. Sex doesn’t matter unless one is trans.

    She’s exactly right. It’s the great leveling project of the Left, and, ultimately, it can only be accomplished through coercion — forced conformity. This is the totalitarianism at the heart of leftism. 

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  25. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    This is why the left loves abortion.

    Egalitarianism through homogeny. Men and women are just the same. Sex doesn’t matter unless one is trans.

    She’s exactly right. It’s the great leveling project of the Left, and, ultimately, it can only be accomplished through coercion — forced conformity. This is the totalitarianism at the heart of leftism.

    So that’s why the left loves the freedom to abort but hates the freedom to politely decline to bake a cake for a gay couple. Also why they love Affirmative Action even if it hurts Asians who never oppressed anyone and weren’t exactly welcomed with open arms in America either.

    Everyone they deem equal must be equal no matter what. 

    If the freedom to abort makes people equal so be it. If the compulsion of Christians makes people equal so be it. The point is equality, which is to say, sameness. 

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  26. Saint Augustine Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    This is why the left loves abortion.

    Egalitarianism through homogeny. Men and women are just the same. Sex doesn’t matter unless one is trans.

    She’s exactly right. It’s the great leveling project of the Left, and, ultimately, it can only be accomplished through coercion — forced conformity. This is the totalitarianism at the heart of leftism.

    So that’s why the left loves the freedom to abort but hates the freedom to politely decline to bake a cake for a gay couple. Also why they love Affirmative Action even if it hurts Asians who never oppressed anyone and weren’t exactly welcomed with open arms in America either.

    Everyone they deem equal must be equal no matter what.

    If the freedom to abort makes people equal so be it. If the compulsion of Christians makes people equal so be it. The point is equality, which is to say, sameness.

    And heaven forbid there be any economic liberty if it doesn’t produce equality!  (Never mind the poverty it eliminates.  No, never mind that.)

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  27. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    And heaven forbid there be any economic liberty if it doesn’t produce equality! (Never mind the poverty it eliminates. No, never mind that.)

    This what really grinds my gears. I’m OK with inequality as long as the lowest among people move up. In fact, if Rockefeller and Carnegie get so much money they can help advance the children of black slaves to learn useful skills to move on up that’s fine by me. (Rockefeller and Carnegie did alot of good with their charitable donations to poor black-American people. I think that they should have spent more money because black-Americans were underlooked but the contributions they made to Tuskegee and Spellman college were great to black-Americans). But we aren’t interested in super-rich folks helping the poorest folks. Everyone needs to be equal. They ain’t equal and they will never be equal. 

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  28. Stad Coolidge
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    Joker: Pelosi could strangle the careers of Shiff and Nadler on a slow afternoon if she was serious.

    FIFY.  (Wishful thinking on my part . . .)

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