NC -9 Why it’s a Real Win

 

Context is important. Every race is different. Nowadays you have to dig deep to find it.

Here’s what I heard: Bishop, the Republican, only won by 2% in a district that Trump carried by 9% in 2016. Supposedly, this means that support for Republicans (and more importantly for the spinners, Trump) is eroding.

On the third page of the google search, I found some context.

Apparently, Republicans had been found cheating ( not sure if this was actually true, but it doesn’t matter for the sake of this post). The Democrat who’d been cheated, McCready,  a moderate and Marine, ran again, the Republican candidate was replaced by unknown, Bishop.

So the moderate Marine Democrat who was cheated out of his Congressional seat who had already run a campaign in the district still lost to a relatively obscure Republican.

I think that just might account for the 7% discrepancy.

By the way, Democrats have been moving rightward of late, trying desperately to win. That is kind of a good thing, right?

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  1. Stad Coolidge
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    By the way, there were two special elections in North Carolina.  In the one not mentioned, Republican Greg Murphy won by a two-to-one margin.

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  2. Hang On Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Trump won NC-9 in 2016 by 11 points, not 9.

    The Republican Party has held this district since 1963. It is a R+8 district according to the Cook Partisan Index. It is stunning that it was this close.

    The suburbs tell a very scary story. The Democrat improved by about 10 points over Trump’s 2016 performance in the portion of Mecklenburg County that is in NC-9. That is deadly, and follows the Republican collapse in the suburbs in 2018. A chill wind is blowing. When will we wake up and realize that our only hope is to dump Trump?

    Rubbish.

    The 9th Congressional District of North Carolina has had a Republican congressman since 1963 (when Jim Broyhill who was from Lenoir, North Carolina in Caldwell County in the mountains of North Carolina was elected). In other words, the counties involved have changed over the years and those counties have had a Democrat representing them in Congress between 1975 to 1999 ( Congressman Bill Hefner) and 2009 to 2013 (Congressman Larry Kissell).

    All this election shows is that Democrats are much better organized than Republicans. Early election voting is where Democrats swamped Republicans and almost won. (Go here and click on a county.) Democrats have a good ground game. Republicans don’t. 

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  3. Columbo Inactive
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    Why NC-9 Should Frighten the Democrats

    Minority voters are starting to walk away

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  4. Bob Thompson Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Why NC-9 Should Frighten the Democrats

    Minority voters are starting to walk away

    We will know this is real when it becomes clear that Democrats cannot behave as if they own the urban vote. The key is for urban minorities to see how they have been used but never really lifted by Democrats. 

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  5. rgbact Inactive
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Henry Olsen … at the Washington comPostNorth Carolina’s special election is great news for President Trump’s re-election chances

    So Henry Olsen says that based on that sweet 2pt win, House Republicans probably won’t become a smaller minority in 2020….and Trump actually has a chance if the Dems nominate Lizzy “but she fights” Warren.  Oh, and R’s are doing well with Obama-Trump voters (ie non conservatives). Sounds like a guy desperately looking for positives.

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  6. Jon1979 Inactive
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Henry Olsen … at the Washington comPostNorth Carolina’s special election is great news for President Trump’s re-election chances

    So Henry Olsen says that based on that sweet 2pt win, House Republicans probably won’t become a smaller minority in 2020….and Trump actually has a chance if the Dems nominate Lizzy “but she fights” Warren. Oh, and R’s are doing well with Obama-Trump voters (ie non conservatives). Sounds like a guy desperately looking for positives.

    Show me in the past where Henry Olsen’s ever been a crazy optimist. He called the 2018 midterms correctly, and unless you can provide a link otherwise, I’ve never seen him be one to blow rainbow-and-unicorn smoke up Republicans’ keisters just to make them feel good.

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  7. Ralphie Inactive
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    HankMorgan (View Comment):

    Franco: By the way, Democrats have been moving rightward of late trying desperately to win. That is kind of a good thing, right?

    It would be a good thing if they weren’t lying through their lying teeth. I ‘member Obamacare…I will never vote for a Democrat again, no matter what noises come out of their mouths. I can hardly believe anyone else buys their moderate BS anymore.

    As my rep was Stupak, that made a big deal about being pro life, then went ahead and voted for it on an Obama con, I’ll never vote Democrat again either.

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  8. HankMorgan Inactive
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    Ralphie (View Comment):

    HankMorgan (View Comment):

    Franco: By the way, Democrats have been moving rightward of late trying desperately to win. That is kind of a good thing, right?

    It would be a good thing if they weren’t lying through their lying teeth. I ‘member Obamacare…I will never vote for a Democrat again, no matter what noises come out of their mouths. I can hardly believe anyone else buys their moderate BS anymore.

    As my rep was Stupak, that made a big deal about being pro life, then went ahead and voted for it on an Obama con, I’ll never vote Democrat again either.

    Mine was rated the most conservative Dem in the house, had great constituent services, and thus ran unopposed for most of a decade. He voted for Obamacare and announced his retirement when polls showed he was losing.  The seat’s been held by Reps since.

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  9. Ed G. Member
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    Sabrdance (View Comment):

    Midterm elections and special elections are suggestive, not predictive. The best analysis I’ve seen of the election this morning is that the suburbs swung more towards the democrats (Mecklenburg was already pretty much there), but the exurbs and rural areas swung hard republican. So, suburban whites are switching parties with exurban whites. No idea how that shakes out long term. There are roughly as many of each, so… tight elections for the forseable future unless the GOP can make more inroads with African Americans or Hispanics.

    Prediction: Pain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPNQ82Sq4E

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  10. Slow on the uptake Coolidge
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    rgbact (View Comment):
    The good news is Trump will bring in loads of black voters

    Oh how I wish there was a good way to mark a comment as sarcasm. (For just a moment I thought you were serious.)

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Thought Leader Member
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    Slow on the uptake (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):
    The good news is Trump will bring in loads of black voters

    Oh how I wish there was a good way to mark a comment as sarcasm. (For just a moment I thought you were serious.)

    I thought it was sort of double sarcastic backflip with a half-twist.

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