Eating Cheetos with Chopsticks

 

Chopsticks are, in a general manner, inferior to the fork. Forks are more effective over a wider range of food, and they’re easier to master as well. Really in this day and age, the major reason to learn chopsticks is to look sophisticated. You don’t want to look like a dolt in front of your friends. So I’m using chopsticks to eat Cheetos.*

Cheetos are pretty much on the opposite end of the sophistication spectrum from sushi.** If you learn chopsticks to look suave in one of those swanky Japanese restaurants that’s one thing. You simply can’t look debonair eating bright orange cheese puffs. So why bother with the chopsticks? Aren’t they a finger food? They are if you don’t mind leaving blaze orange fingerprints everywhere.

Once you’ve determined you need to avoid orange gunk on your digits you’ve got to settle on an implement. Forks are inferior to chopsticks in this circumstance; neither the scooping action or the stabbing motion do you much good. Chopsticks, on the other hand, can pick up puffs one by one, with great accuracy. You’re rate-limited by the speed you chew in either case.

When you notice the pattern you see examples of it everywhere. @GaryMcVey gave us a description of an earlier version of color TV that never took off. And yet that finicky and expensive technology got sent to the moon. Because, however expensive it is, that cost pales against the great mass of rocket fuel you’d have to burn to launch it into orbit. Ever hear of gorilla glass? It was mostly an oddity until Steve Jobs was looking for something to use as an iPhone screen.

What can we learn from this? Couple lessons. First, the criteria used to judge which technology is superior is necessarily dependent on the background assumptions under which it’s evaluated. Secondly, and as a consequence of that, one ought to be constantly reevaluating the conditions under which those assumptions apply. Thirdly, to find one of these situations where the rejected line might actually be superior you have to reevaluate both the status quo and the alternatives. Which implies (fourthly) that the kind of guy who’s going to discover these opportunities to innovate is going to necessarily be familiar not just with the stuff that works, but the other things people have tried which don’t work.

And finally, I can learn how to use chopsticks by practicing on Cheetos. I mean, I don’t want to look like a yokel any more than I already do.


* I picked up this idea from someone in the PIT. Don’t rightly remember who, but I suspect @qoumidan . With the revolver.

** I bet if I made sushi out of cheetos, twinkies and Big Mac sauce… yeah, that’d be terrible. Further research is required.

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  1. I Shot The Serif Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    You might as well get used to chopsticks right now, because yesterday I saw an item saying that eating utensils are “racist” because they represent European white colonialists trying to erase the “wildness” of the peoples they colonized. I wish I were kidding.

    I saw the same thing about table etiquette in general.

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  2. Judge Mental Member
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    I Shot The Serif (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    You might as well get used to chopsticks right now, because yesterday I saw an item saying that eating utensils are “racist” because they represent European white colonialists trying to erase the “wildness” of the peoples they colonized. I wish I were kidding.

    I saw the same thing about table etiquette in general.

    Are we also going to go back to the women and children eating the scraps after the men are done?

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  3. Yudansha Member
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    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain:

    Cheetos are pretty much on the opposite end of the sophistication spectrum from sushi.** If you learn chopsticks to look suave in one of those swanky Japanese restaurants that’s one thing. You simply can’t look debonair eating bright orange cheese puffs. 

     

    It’s funny, but eating sushi with chopsticks is totally an American thing.  Sushi, as we know it today, was invented to be fast-food eaten with your fingers.  And don’t even get a Japanese person started on the subject of that vile American habit of mixing wasabi into their soy-sauce.  The most common response to which is “Bleh!  That’s just a waste of fish.”

    When I see someone eating sushi with chopsticks, it makes me think that it’s a bit like one of The Beverly Hillbillies lifting their pinky while sipping tea.

     

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  4. I Shot The Serif Member
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    Yudansha (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain:

    Cheetos are pretty much on the opposite end of the sophistication spectrum from sushi.** If you learn chopsticks to look suave in one of those swanky Japanese restaurants that’s one thing. You simply can’t look debonair eating bright orange cheese puffs.

     

    It’s funny, but eating sushi with chopsticks is totally an American thing. Sushi, as we know it today, was invented to be fast-food eaten with your fingers. And don’t even get a Japanese person started on the subject of that vile American habit of mixing wasabi into their soy-sauce. The most common response to which is “Bleh! That’s just a waste of fish.”

    When I see someone eating sushi with chopsticks, it makes me think that it’s a bit like one of The Beverly Hillbillies lifting their pinky while sipping tea.

     

    The Japanese started it, and we perfected it.

    Yeah, I know, you’re ‘supposed to’ dip the fish end into a tiny bit of soy sauce and then maybe smear a bit of wasabi if you really have to. But let’s be honest, dunking sushi in spicy soy sauce tastes awesome.

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  5. Arahant Member
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    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain (View Comment):
    Also, it’s hard to eat a pancake and syrup using your fingers and not make a mess.

    Right, so use chopsticks.

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  6. Arahant Member
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    How about the gravy?

    Gravy usually has flour.

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  7. Dave of Barsham Member
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    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain: They are if you don’t mind leaving blaze orange fingerprints everywhere.

    I’m sorry, I thought this was America.

     

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  8. Arahant Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    Are we also going to go back to the women and children eating the scraps after the men are done?

    Yes.

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  9. I Shot The Serif Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    Are we also going to go back to the women and children eating the scraps after the men are done?

    Yes.

    I thought women prepare the food? How will the men know we didn’t sneak some first?

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  10. Arahant Member
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    I Shot The Serif (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    Are we also going to go back to the women and children eating the scraps after the men are done?

    Yes.

    I thought women prepare the food? How will the men know we didn’t sneak some first?

    Don’t get sassy, Missy. 😜

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  11. Yudansha Member
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    I Shot The Serif (View Comment):

    Yudansha (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain:

    Cheetos are pretty much on the opposite end of the sophistication spectrum from sushi.** If you learn chopsticks to look suave in one of those swanky Japanese restaurants that’s one thing. You simply can’t look debonair eating bright orange cheese puffs.

    It’s funny, but eating sushi with chopsticks is totally an American thing. Sushi, as we know it today, was invented to be fast-food eaten with your fingers. And don’t even get a Japanese person started on the subject of that vile American habit of mixing wasabi into their soy-sauce. The most common response to which is “Bleh! That’s just a waste of fish.”

    When I see someone eating sushi with chopsticks, it makes me think that it’s a bit like one of The Beverly Hillbillies lifting their pinky while sipping tea.

    The Japanese started it, and we perfected it.

    Yeah, I know, you’re ‘supposed to’ dip the fish end into a tiny bit of soy sauce and then maybe smear a bit of wasabi if you really have to. But let’s be honest, dunking sushi in spicy soy sauce tastes awesome.

    I, personally, can’t stand wasabi but I use WAY more soy-sauce than is ‘correct.’  I do however eat sushi with my fingers.

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  12. TBA Coolidge
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    I Shot The Serif (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    You might as well get used to chopsticks right now, because yesterday I saw an item saying that eating utensils are “racist” because they represent European white colonialists trying to erase the “wildness” of the peoples they colonized. I wish I were kidding.

    I saw the same thing about table etiquette in general.

    Ritual aids cohesion and is useful for non-verbal shibbolethery. 

    As a citizen of a tea-dumping country I have some sympathy with people who slam down their fork and yell, “your rules are stupid, I’m out!” I can’t help but wonder, though, whether the English aristocracy thought of our Declaration of Independence as virtue-signalling historical revisionism when it was first published. 

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  13. TBA Coolidge
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    Yudansha (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain:

    Cheetos are pretty much on the opposite end of the sophistication spectrum from sushi.** If you learn chopsticks to look suave in one of those swanky Japanese restaurants that’s one thing. You simply can’t look debonair eating bright orange cheese puffs.

     

    It’s funny, but eating sushi with chopsticks is totally an American thing. Sushi, as we know it today, was invented to be fast-food eaten with your fingers. And don’t even get a Japanese person started on the subject of that vile American habit of mixing wasabi into their soy-sauce. The most common response to which is “Bleh! That’s just a waste of fish.”

    When I see someone eating sushi with chopsticks, it makes me think that it’s a bit like one of The Beverly Hillbillies lifting their pinky while sipping tea.

    See, I knew that all along. It’s just that it would be rude to disappoint Japanese onlookers by not committing the expected faux pas. 

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  14. TBA Coolidge
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    I know how to use chopsticks. You use one of them as a spear for the food, and use the other to fend off people trying to steal your food, amirite?

    You are halfway to your geisha school diploma. 

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  15. TBA Coolidge
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    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    That said, I think if I had to choose something to eat them with it’d be tongs. You can reach deep into the bag so you don’t have to worry about getting the back of your hand gunked up, plus you get the classy cigarette holder effect.

    I would say experimentation is proving this theory right.

    Small bag or large? I’ve been happily reaching into the large bag with chopsticks. Then again that means no one else is going to want to share that bag with me. I can live with that.

    I’m using a pair of disposable wooden chopsticks that I nicked last time I hit The Asia Palace. The other thing this lets me do, it lets me reseal the large bag much more effectively. Roll the chopsticks up in the top of the bag. You get a tighter roll, and the bag clamp holds better with something substantial in there.

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  16. Arahant Member
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    Yudansha (View Comment):
    I do however eat sushi with my fingers.

    I have to admit here, I don’t eat sushi at all. Where I’m from, we call that bait.

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  17. Misthiocracy grudgingly Member
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    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain: ** I bet if I made sushi out of cheetos, twinkies and Big Mac sauce… yeah, that’d be terrible. Further research is required.

    You joke, but…

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  18. Arahant Member
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    @hankrhody, did you provide the picture? I don’t remember its being there originally. Or did the editors go searching for pictures?

     

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  19. Arahant Member
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    Okay, never mind. Just did a search. You are apparently not the first gent to cover this topic.

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  20. TBA Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    I have at least thirteen metal sets. The Korean are flat in profile, rather than round. Japanese are tapered. Chinese chopsticks tend to be more cylindrical.

    Whereas American and British chopsticks tend to be shaped like knives and forks. ;)

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  21. Hank Rhody, on the blockchain Contributor
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

     

    I guess I’ve never found the need for more than a fold with a bag clamp. I’m also kind of surprised you’re not eating the whole bag. Then again, on further thought I guess I’m surprised you’re doing anything that enhances cleanliness.

    Yeah, the fold alone doesn’t seem to do the job; inevitably there’s some air leakage.

    The truth of the matter is that my interest in eating cheetos is usually exhausted well before the end of the bag.

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  22. Hank Rhody, on the blockchain Contributor
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):
    (…)

    Also, it’s hard to eat a pancake and syrup using your fingers and not make a mess.

    I’ve done the research on this one too.

    Brown sugar instead of syrup makes this one doable.

    Sure, but real maple syrup is the good life. It’s like saying you can eat all the steak you want so long as it’s veggie burgers. Okay, not that far, but still.

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  23. Hank Rhody, on the blockchain Contributor
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    Slow on the uptake (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    You might as well get used to chopsticks right now, because yesterday I saw an item saying that eating utensils are “racist” because they represent European white colonialists trying to erase the “wildness” of the peoples they colonized. I wish I were kidding.

    Isn’t me (Texan) using chopsticks cultural appropriation?

    Maybe we should all revert to our childhood and just use fingers. They were invented first, and besides there’s nothing better for eating ribs or fried chicken.

    Texan. “Mah fingers are sufficient for eatin’ barbecue, which is good enough for all y’all.”

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  24. Hank Rhody, on the blockchain Contributor
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    Yudansha (View Comment):
    It’s funny, but eating sushi with chopsticks is totally an American thing. Sushi, as we know it today, was invented to be fast-food eaten with your fingers.

    This… this makes total sense.

    I’ll admit I don’t put a very big premium on authenticity though. Wouldn’t hit the Asia Palace if I did.

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  25. Hank Rhody, on the blockchain Contributor
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    Dave of Barsham (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain: They are if you don’t mind leaving blaze orange fingerprints everywhere.

    I’m sorry, I thought this was America.

    …and I don’t intend to give the FBI any more help than I have to.

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  26. Hank Rhody, on the blockchain Contributor
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    hankrhody, did you provide the picture? I don’t remember its being there originally. Or did the editors go searching for pictures?

     

    I did not provide the picture. To answer a question posed upthread, these are the dense and gnarly Cheetos I’m eating, not the puffs.

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  27. Misthiocracy grudgingly Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    You might as well get used to chopsticks right now, because yesterday I saw an item saying that eating utensils are “racist” because they represent European white colonialists trying to erase the “wildness” of the peoples they colonized. I wish I were kidding.

    So, Medieval Times is the pinnacle of Woke?

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  28. GLDIII Temporarily Essential Reagan
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody, on the blockchain (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    That said, I think if I had to choose something to eat them with it’d be tongs. You can reach deep into the bag so you don’t have to worry about getting the back of your hand gunked up, plus you get the classy cigarette holder effect.

    I would say experimentation is proving this theory right.

    Small bag or large? I’ve been happily reaching into the large bag with chopsticks. Then again that means no one else is going to want to share that bag with me. I can live with that.

    I guess it depends on the chopstick-to-mouth transference. Then again, that issue would probably arise when eating it with your hands.

    I’m using a pair of disposable wooden chopsticks that I nicked last time I hit The Asia Palace. The other thing this lets me do, it lets me reseal the large bag much more effectively. Roll the chopsticks up in the top of the bag. You get a tighter roll, and the bag clamp holds better with something substantial in there.

    I guess I’ve never found the need for more than a fold with a bag clamp. I’m also kind of surprised you’re not eating the whole bag. Then again, on further thought I guess I’m surprised you’re doing anything that enhances cleanliness.

    Why do I feel like we are eves dropping on a old married couple with some of standard routine of grievances that need hashing every now and then.

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  29. RightAngles Member
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    Misthiocracy grudgingly (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    You might as well get used to chopsticks right now, because yesterday I saw an item saying that eating utensils are “racist” because they represent European white colonialists trying to erase the “wildness” of the peoples they colonized. I wish I were kidding.

    So, Medieval Times is the pinnacle of Woke?

    They want us to go back to eating with our hands, walking instead of flying or driving, and using windmills instead of electricity. It doesn’t look to me like the “Progressives”  like progress very much.

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  30. MeanDurphy Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    I know how to use chopsticks. You use one of them as a spear for the food, and use the other to fend off people trying to steal your food, amirite?

    Ahh, then you want the Japanese style, better for stabbing.

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