Mopes on Mopeds

 

From the UK Yahoo website:

Moped crime in London has more than halved since tough measures were introduced to allow police to ram suspects from their bikes, figures reveal.

The Metropolitan Police said the number of moped crimes had fallen by 53.7% in the year since they were given the new powers.

The force said there were 20,973 moped crimes between July 2017 and June 2018, but that fell to 9,723 between July 2018 and June 2019.

Police were given powers to knock suspected criminals off their mopeds in November 2018.

Yes, even the Brits have their limit when it comes to crime, especially moped crimes. Nothing puts a stop to the nonsense like a … well, think of it as a 3,000-pound baton.

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  1. TBA Coolidge
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    James Hageman (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Missing from the protocol is driving over the moped thief, putting the police car in reverse, and backing over him again.

    I had a great aunt who did that to varmints. If she, say, saw a raccoon by the road (even if it was on the other side of the road), she’d aim her big Buick right at it, and if she hit it, she’d back up and go over it again just to be sure.

    Now, for snakes you have to hit the brakes just as you run over them. Rolling over them just makes them slither off. Sliding tires smear them over the road.

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  2. Arahant Member
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    James Hageman (View Comment):

    SkipSul (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Missing from the protocol is driving over the moped thief, putting the police car in reverse, and backing over him again.

    I had a great aunt who did that to varmints. If she, say, saw a raccoon by the road (even if it was on the other side of the road), she’d aim her big Buick right at it, and if she hit it, she’d back up and go over it again just to be sure.

    Now, for snakes you have to hit the brakes just as you run over them. Rolling over them just makes them slither off. Sliding tires smear them over the road.

    Dude, some of us read Ricochet over lunch.

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  3. TBA Coolidge
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    @RobtGilsdorf

    James Hageman (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    GeezerBob (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Couple of decent bow hunters will solve the problem quietly.

     

    Plus you can have a block party with a trailer-park luau!* 

    ______________
    *There is no such thing. But there should be.  

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  4. Stad Coolidge
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    James Hageman (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    GeezerBob (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Couple of decent bow hunters will solve the problem quietly.

    Not a bad idea!  But it would take more than a couple.  When the development was built, there were only about 60 deer in the area.  Now they estimate the herd is over 600, with no sign of slowing down.

    Maybe instead of guns or bows, we could get a hundred people in junk cars to simply drive around the neighborhood at night.  The automobile has proven to be an effective weapon so far . . .

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  5. TBA Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    James Hageman (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    GeezerBob (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Couple of decent bow hunters will solve the problem quietly.

    Not a bad idea! But it would take more than a couple. When the development was built, there were only about 60 deer in the area. Now they estimate the herd is over 600, with no sign of slowing down.

    Maybe instead of guns or bows, we could get a hundred people in junk cars to simply drive around the neighborhood at night. The automobile has proven to be an effective weapon so far . . .

    Mad Max hunting should definitely be a thing. 

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    Arahant (View Comment):

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    SkipSul (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Missing from the protocol is driving over the moped thief, putting the police car in reverse, and backing over him again.

    I had a great aunt who did that to varmints. If she, say, saw a raccoon by the road (even if it was on the other side of the road), she’d aim her big Buick right at it, and if she hit it, she’d back up and go over it again just to be sure.

    Now, for snakes you have to hit the brakes just as you run over them. Rolling over them just makes them slither off. Sliding tires smear them over the road.

    Dude, some of us read Ricochet over lunch.

    Please don’t tempt me.

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  7. SkipSul Inactive
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    James Hageman (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    GeezerBob (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Couple of decent bow hunters will solve the problem quietly.

    Not a bad idea! But it would take more than a couple. When the development was built, there were only about 60 deer in the area. Now they estimate the herd is over 600, with no sign of slowing down.

    Maybe instead of guns or bows, we could get a hundred people in junk cars to simply drive around the neighborhood at night. The automobile has proven to be an effective weapon so far . . .

    Mad Max hunting should definitely be a thing.

    • #37
  8. Percival Thatcher
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    Arahant (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    A racoon stole your car? I want to hear about this. Of course, it explains why you bicycle everywhere.

    • #38
  9. Percival Thatcher
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    SkipSul (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    SkipSul (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Missing from the protocol is driving over the moped thief, putting the police car in reverse, and backing over him again.

    I had a great aunt who did that to varmints. If she, say, saw a raccoon by the road (even if it was on the other side of the road), she’d aim her big Buick right at it, and if she hit it, she’d back up and go over it again just to be sure.

    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    She was a farmer, and raccoons were pests.

    Raccoons eat chickens. They’ll also eat the vegetable garden.

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  10. TBA Coolidge
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    James Hageman (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    James Hageman (View Comment):

    SkipSul (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Missing from the protocol is driving over the moped thief, putting the police car in reverse, and backing over him again.

    I had a great aunt who did that to varmints. If she, say, saw a raccoon by the road (even if it was on the other side of the road), she’d aim her big Buick right at it, and if she hit it, she’d back up and go over it again just to be sure.

    Now, for snakes you have to hit the brakes just as you run over them. Rolling over them just makes them slither off. Sliding tires smear them over the road.

    Dude, some of us read Ricochet over lunch.

    Please don’t tempt me.

    You’re going to have to do better than deep-fried innertube. 

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  11. TBA Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    SkipSul (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Missing from the protocol is driving over the moped thief, putting the police car in reverse, and backing over him again.

    I had a great aunt who did that to varmints. If she, say, saw a raccoon by the road (even if it was on the other side of the road), she’d aim her big Buick right at it, and if she hit it, she’d back up and go over it again just to be sure.

    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    She was a farmer, and raccoons were pests.

    Raccoons eat chickens. They’ll also eat the vegetable garden.

    They are g-ddamnivores.

    • #41
  12. Skyler Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Just unleash some wolves into the neighborhood.

    • #42
  13. TBA Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    GeezerBob (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Just unleash some wolves into the neighborhood.

    Ah, the inner-city solution. 

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  14. Slow on the uptake Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

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    Stad (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Couple of decent bow hunters will solve the problem quietly.

    Not a bad idea! But it would take more than a couple. When the development was built, there were only about 60 deer in the area. Now they estimate the herd is over 600, with no sign of slowing down.

    Maybe instead of guns or bows, we could get a hundred people in junk cars to simply drive around the neighborhood at night. The automobile has proven to be an effective weapon so far . . .

    Way back when…used to enjoy a good demolition derby.

    • #44
  15. Percival Thatcher
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    GeezerBob (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    I have video and photos (buried deep in my archive) of racoons that took up residence in the attic of our previous house. They made holes in the shingles and we ended up replacing the roof.

    Possums are pests too. They nested in the crawl space of my late brother-in-law’s house, then chewed their way into the house to eat his cat’s food.

    Here in Aiken, we have a big brouhaha going on involving our elite gated community, Woodside. They are having a problem with deer, and want to have professional hunters come in and cull the herd (well, the residents voted 2-1 for the cull). However, Woodside is located within the city limits, and it’s currently illegal to discharge firearms within city limits.

    So we have bleeding-heart Bambi lovers and anti-gunners fighting against the folks who want to end the large number of deer-car accidents, or who don’t want their gardens (some professionally designed and maintained) being ruined by foraging deer.

     

    Just unleash some wolves into the neighborhood.

    Wolves have better sense than to mess with raccoons. ‘Coons are vicious. And they have hands.

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  16. Arahant Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    Wolves have better sense than to mess with raccoons. ‘Coons are vicious. And they have hands.

    They meant for the deer.

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  17. The Reticulator Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

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    SkipSul (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Missing from the protocol is driving over the moped thief, putting the police car in reverse, and backing over him again.

    I had a great aunt who did that to varmints. If she, say, saw a raccoon by the road (even if it was on the other side of the road), she’d aim her big Buick right at it, and if she hit it, she’d back up and go over it again just to be sure.

    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    She was a farmer, and raccoons were pests.

    Raccoons eat chickens. They’ll also eat the vegetable garden.

    Both have happened at our place. But we no longer raise chickens, and the vegetable garden has been surrounded by multiple strands of electric fence wire, which keeps out varmints like raccoons and whitetail deer. 

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    Why would anyone want to harm a racoon?

    To get back at it for destroying your house and stealing your car.

    A racoon stole your car? I want to hear about this. Of course, it explains why you bicycle everywhere.

    Not mine. And it’s harder for them to hotwire cars with all the anti-theft mechanisms nowadays. But back when we raised goats, they weren’t deterred by the anti-theft mechanisms I put on the metal containers in which I kept high-protein feed for the goats.  

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  19. Wylee Coyote Member
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    It should be noted that this technique would be a direct violation of the vehicle pursuit policies of most US police departments.

     

    More’s the pity.

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  20. GrannyDude Member
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    Wylee Coyote (View Comment):

    It should be noted that this technique would be a direct violation of the vehicle pursuit policies of most US police departments.

     

    More’s the pity.

    It’s an interesting question: using a car against a moped is deadly force.  Here in the U.S., if deadly force is justified—generally by the threat of serious bodily harm or death to the officer or someone else—it doesn’t matter what instrument is used. Hence this: 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s72ueP2K84

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