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  1. GrannyDude Member
    GrannyDude
    @GrannyDude

    Okay, but they’d better get a wiggle on. Sooner or later, someone will find out that Edna St. Vincent Millay or the (average) nurse serving in Vietnam or Joan of Arc… was a racist! or wouldn’t date transmen or something, and the statues will have to come down.

     

     

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  2. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    I say we hurry up and get statues of Florence Nightengale up before they start with Sanger and Clinton (in a pantsuit like Mao).

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  3. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    And how are we going to achieve this equality?  By tearing down statues of men until the numbers match.

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  4. DrewInWisconsin, Influencer Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer
    @DrewInWisconsin

    They used #HandmaidsTale as a hashtag on this tweet? Really?

    These are not serious people.

    EDIT: Oh, wait . . . it’s a “sponsored tweet.” This is an advertisement, folks. Hulu is counting statues, CNN is just helping them bully us normals.

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  5. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    Stad (View Comment):

    And how are we going to achieve this equality? By tearing down statues of men until the numbers match.

    I think they do sex-reassignment surgery for that sort of thing nowadays.   

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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Influencer Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Let’s make sure nobody is ever truly happy! Are you happy? Here’s something that should make you angry!

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  7. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    They used #HandmaidsTale as a hashtag on this tweet? Really?

    These are not serious people.

    EDIT: Oh, wait . . . it’s a “sponsored tweet.” This is an advertisement, folks. Hulu is counting statues, CNN is just helping them bully us normals.

    I need to cancel hulu.

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  8. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw
    @MattBalzer

    Stad (View Comment):

    And how are we going to achieve this equality? By tearing down statues of men until the numbers match.

    Well we can’t build more statues of famous women, they’d have to be taken down when people find out they were Republicans or something.

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  9. Seawriter Contributor
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    @Seawriter

    Stad (View Comment):

    And how are we going to achieve this equality? By tearing down statues of men until the numbers match.

    Putting up enough status of vaguely notable women that the ratio is evened and that people start associating statues of women with participation trophy would be one way. 

    As people pass the statue of Bette Nesmith Graham instead of noting that she invented Liquid Paper they argue over whether it was put up because her son Michael Nesmith was a member of the Monkees or because she was the model for the mother of Miles Naismith Vorkosigan, a science fiction character.

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  10. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
    Douglas Pratt
    @DouglasPratt

    I got a huge kick out of the proposal to put Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill. Excellent, let’s glorify a female black Republican who was handy with firearms!

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Influencer Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Putting up enough status of vaguely notable women that the ratio is evened and that people start associating statues of women with participation trophy would be one way. 

    I am continually amazed by the number of obscure “women of color” Google manages to discover in order to honor them on their main page. But will they ever honor Cornelius Swartwout for inventing the waffle iron? Waffles are patriarchal oppression! Down with waffles! Boycott waffles!

     

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  12. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
    Douglas Pratt
    @DouglasPratt

    DrewInWisconsin, Influencer (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Putting up enough status of vaguely notable women that the ratio is evened and that people start associating statues of women with participation trophy would be one way.

    I am continually amazed by the number of obscure “women of color” Google manages to discover in order to honor them on their main page. But will they ever honor Cornelius Swartwout for inventing the waffle iron? Waffles are patriarchal oppression! Down with waffles! Boycott waffles!

     

    Waffles are an essential part of Krasnovian culture, comrade.

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  13. Tex929rr Coolidge
    Tex929rr
    @Tex929rr

    Gosh, that is awfully cis-genderish.  Just men and women?

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  14. DonG Coolidge
    DonG
    @DonG

    Richard Easton: viewer it has who is not trapped in an airport.

    In my recent travels, I observed very few TVs in airports.  If they exist, they are surely ignored by people staring at phones and laptops.  I did happen into an airport bar that had a TV with a news story about a plan crash.  That was cool.  In general, bars have TVs tuned to sports and sports news. 

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  15. Kephalithos Member
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    @Kephalithos

    I’d like to know when the word “representation” started to ooze out of politics (where it belongs) and into every other sphere of life.

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  16. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    DonG (View Comment):

    Richard Easton: viewer it has who is not trapped in an airport.

    In my recent travels, I observed very few TVs in airports. If they exist, they are surely ignored by people staring at phones and laptops. I did happen into an airport bar that had a TV with a news story about a plan crash. That was cool. In general, bars have TVs tuned to sports and sports news.

    The cheap motels we stay in have them in their breakfast rooms, set to news stations. Once in a while there is a place that is blessedly free of them. 

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  17. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Gosh, that is awfully cis-genderish. Just men and women?

    I saw a story the other day reporting that a forum’s members were banned for refusing to apply “non-binary” gender pronouns to a fictional robot character. Somehow, I doubted the pronoun they were looking for is “it”, but couldn’t rouse enough interest to look up “non-binary” standards. 

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  18. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    @Tex929rr

    DonG (View Comment):

    Richard Easton: viewer it has who is not trapped in an airport.

    In my recent travels, I observed very few TVs in airports. If they exist, they are surely ignored by people staring at phones and laptops. I did happen into an airport bar that had a TV with a news story about a plan crash. That was cool. In general, bars have TVs tuned to sports and sports news.

     

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  19. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    If one doesn’t like history, what the heck, just change it. In other words, just lie about it.

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  20. tigerlily Member
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    @tigerlily

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Gosh, that is awfully cis-genderish. Just men and women?

    Just you wait Tex.

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  21. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Early Christians went through Rome penectomizing the statuary. 

    A large pair of pink stick-on googly eyes could complete the transformation and really, once you’ve donned a pink pussy hat you don’t ever have to worry about your actions not being taken seriously. 

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  22. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    I am surprised that its as close as 12x. Aren’t most statutes honoring people for military leadership?

    Lets close this gap immediately by raising funds for statues of Margret Thatcher – to honor the close relationship that she and President Ronald Reagan enjoyed that changed the world.

    There! problem solved.

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  23. Kozak Member
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    @Kozak

    Sorry, but in the real world men have had a far greater impact on society and history  than women.  That’s just a fact.

    When women die in the millions and command vast armies, discover the laws of universe and innovate and create like men have get back to me.

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  24. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Sorry, but in the real world men have been far greater impact on society and history than women. That’s just a fact.

    When women die in the millions and command vast armies, discover the laws of universe and innovate and create like men have get back to me.

    And they are now doing some of those things and should be en-statued according to their contributions. We have metrics for this; Madame Curie gets public statues, Sara Blakely probably gets a privately funded sculpting, though I am grateful for both their efforts. 

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  25. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    Scary Lucy got replaced:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/new-lucille-ball-sculpture-scary-916859

    In Lucille Ball’s home town, there is a memorial park for her, which included a center piece statue… The first one didn’t turn out so well. Does this count (properly) as 2?

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  26. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Scary Lucy got replaced:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/new-lucille-ball-sculpture-scary-916859

    In Lucille Ball’s home town, there is a memorial park for her, which included a center piece statue… The first one didn’t turn out so well. Does this count (properly) as 2?

    I think the original statue is so negative the two of them together might not even equal a whole statue. 

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  27. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    @OccupantCDN

    TBA (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Scary Lucy got replaced:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/new-lucille-ball-sculpture-scary-916859

    In Lucille Ball’s home town, there is a memorial park for her, which included a center piece statue… The first one didn’t turn out so well. Does this count (properly) as 2?

    I think the original statue is so negative the two of them together might not even equal a whole statue.

    Now now.

    The intent was to honor a great woman. The artistic merit of the statue shouldn’t be a factor.

    I wonder what became of the original? Is it in a Halloween scare house somewhere?

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  28. James Lileks Contributor
    James Lileks
    @jameslileks

    #1. There should be as many statues of women scientists, artists, composers, etc., because there were just as many of them as men, and the patriarchal society has hidden their accomplishments.

    #2 Women were never allowed to become scientists, artists, composers, etc., because the patriarchy oppressed them.

    Which is it? 

    It seems #2 is closer to the truth, for most of Western Civ’s run, inasmuch as the ordering of society provided more opportunities and institutional advantages for men. It loosened up in the 19th and 20th centuries, of course, but the women who exceeded in the non-performing arts were anomalies. 

    Nevertheless, I suspect it’ll have to be 50-50 going forward, and perhaps 70-30 for a while, because the Agents of the Patriarchy are everywhere, slapping test-tubes out of little girls’ hands and replacing them with Barbies. 

    Somewhat related: I’m involved in an ongoing project to keep alive and publicize the work of a mid-century American humorist, who happened to be female. The real Mrs. Maisel, if you wish, albeit less raunchy. I’m sure she experienced her share of sexist BS, but a major radio (and then TV) network not only gave her full control of her show, they acceded to her requirement that she own the whole damn thing. A few newspaper stories noted that she was married to the man voted Most Handsome Businessman in NYC, almost as if he was arm candy. 

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  29. dnewlander Inactive
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    @dnewlander

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (View Comment):

    Richard Easton: viewer it has who is not trapped in an airport.

    In my recent travels, I observed very few TVs in airports. If they exist, they are surely ignored by people staring at phones and laptops. I did happen into an airport bar that had a TV with a news story about a plan crash. That was cool. In general, bars have TVs tuned to sports and sports news.

    The cheap motels we stay in have them in their breakfast rooms, set to news stations. Once in a while there is a place that is blessedly free of them.

    CNN pays the airports to keep them on, and tuned to CNN. And to cover up the IR receivers. I overnighted at both O’Hare and DFW, in the past couple of years, and I used to have a phone with a universal remote app, and it really annoyed me that I couldn’t even mute CNN when I wanted to sleep at 3 am.

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  30. The Reticulator Member
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    @TheReticulator

    dnewlander (View Comment):
    CNN pays the airports to keep them on, and tuned to CNN. And to cover up the IR receivers. I overnighted at both O’Hare and DFW, in the past couple of years, and I used to have a phone with a universal remote app, and it really annoyed me that I couldn’t even mute CNN when I wanted to sleep at 3 am.

    Sort of like North Korea, where you are required to have the radio in your house turned on. Or so I’ve read.  

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