Debate Roundup, Night 2: Joe’s Back and Tulsi’s Coming with Him

 

The second night of the second round of Democratic primary debates was a livelier affair than Tuesday’s offering. The Wednesday Ten were Joe Biden, Sen. Kamala Harris, Sen. Cory Booker, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang, Mayor Julián Castro, Rep. Michael Bennet, Gov. Jay Inslee, and Mayor Bill De Blasio.

The breakout last night was author Marianne Williamson, who was the most Googled figure in 49 states. How about for Round Two? It was a 50-state sweep:

The Hawaii congressmember earned it. Her most striking moment was calling out Kamala Harris for her prosecutorial excess in California:

Harris made big gains in the first debate, so her opponents were ready to humble her. The former California AG seemed unprepared for the new attention and, by the halfway point, she played nothing but defense. Harris had the most to lose and she lost it.

Most improved was Biden, who corrected his tired, befuddled performance earlier in the month. He meticulously prepared for the second round, dismissing incoming attacks with sharp oppo research on his accusers. He still has lost a step from his glory days, but he seemed a decade younger than he did at the first debate.

Since Biden entered as the frontrunner and the other candidates spent plenty of time attacking each other, he won this debate.

Castro gained a bit of momentum in the first debate but did little to capitalize on it Wednesday. Booker was all over the place, criticizing the infighting (it’s a debate, Cory) before attacking Biden and others. His most memorable moments were introducing something called “marijuana justice” and dropping the S-bomb on live TV.

Gillibrand seemed to check out of the debate midway, utterly confused when the moderators asked her a question. Perhaps she suspended her campaign during the first ad break. It was easy to forget she was even on stage and she can’t be long for the 2020 race.

Andrew Yang has received a lot of attention from independents and was excellent throughout. He’s certainly the most earnest person on the stage, whipping out statistics and detailed policy plans on every subject. He also delved into Williamson territory by exposing the falseness of political showbiz:

We’re up here with makeup on our faces and our rehearsed attack lines, playing roles in this reality TV show. It’s one reason why we elected a reality TV star as our president. We need to be laser-focused on solving the real challenges of today.

Gov. Jay Inslee did well for himself, hewing to his all-climate, all-the-time message, while De Blasio again proved himself to be one of the most unappealing politicians in America. Rep. Michael Bennet remained a non-factor, as expected.

If CNN wants to keep hosting debates, or at least keep viewers watching, they need to greatly improve their coverage. There were microphone issues throughout, with feedback, clicking and unsteady audio quality. Not to mention the several interruptions by hecklers.

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  1. Drusus Inactive
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    Break down the google searches by gender (if such a thing were possible), and I bet you’d find the large majority to be male – they just think Tulsi Gabbard is hot. 

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  2. Eustace C. Scrubb Member
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    Oh, that was tonight? (As a resident of Washington State, I do hope he stays in the race for a while. The less he is here, the better.)

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  3. fidelio102 Inactive
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    Compared with Kamala Harris, who is the face of toxic femininity, Tulsi Gabbard is a pleasure to the eyes and to the ears.

    I thought it courageous of her to accuse the President of aiding Al-Qaeda, which is indeed an indirect result of US support of Saudi Arabia.

    Otherwise it was an insipid debate. The Democratic Party has no policy, no platform.  They seem to be pinning their hopes on one of their number being able to prevent Trump from serving a second term. 

    What then?

     

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  4. drlorentz Member
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    So it was Marianne the first night and Ginger Tulsi the second. The world makes sense. We’re on Gilligan’s Island.

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  5. Roosevelt Guck Inactive
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    I’m voting for President Trump.  This is another Flight 93 election. Elect one of these folks and kiss this country goodbye.

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  6. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Thanks Jon, for watching, so I didn’t have to.  Please just point me in the direction of which one of these clownfarts I need to sneer at for the next 1.3 years, and I’m good.

     

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  7. ctlaw Coolidge
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    Drusus (View Comment):

    Break down the google searches by gender (if such a thing were possible), and I bet you’d find the large majority to be male – they just think Tulsi Gabbard is hot.

     So I assume your money is on the actual most common searches being image searches for “Marianne Williamson young“ and “Tulsi Gabbard bikini“. 

     

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  8. ctlaw Coolidge
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    One can measure the media’s desire to promote Gabbard by their use of soft focus.

    She has a very poor complexion that is not favorable to raw hdtv reproduction.

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  9. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Drusus (View Comment):

    Break down the google searches by gender (if such a thing were possible), and I bet you’d find the large majority to be male – they just think Tulsi Gabbard is hot.

    Umm….she is

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  10. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Drusus (View Comment):

    Break down the google searches by gender (if such a thing were possible), and I bet you’d find the large majority to be male – they just think Tulsi Gabbard is hot.

    That would reassure my faith in the republic. 

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  11. Stad Coolidge
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    Biden wants (needs) a woman Veep.  Tulsi would add tons to Biden’s sex appeal . . .

     

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  12. Valiuth Inactive
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    Roosevelt Guck (View Comment):

    I’m voting for President Trump. This is another Flight 93 election. Elect one of these folks and kiss this country goodbye.

    All elections are Flight 93 elections now because that is the mental gymnastics it takes to go all in on a piece of human garbage like Trump.  93 all the way down. Just crash the plane already all this storming the cockpit is getting boring. 

    50 bucks says the country survives if Trump loses in 2020. I will pay out in food, water, or ammo if I’m wrong and you come to collect. I’ll be running the cannibal biker gang of Southside Chicago. Look for the skulls on stop signs to know you are in my territory. 

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  13. Valiuth Inactive
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    Concretevol (View Comment):

    Drusus (View Comment):

    Break down the google searches by gender (if such a thing were possible), and I bet you’d find the large majority to be male – they just think Tulsi Gabbard is hot.

    Umm….she is

    The hottest of the lot. Time for Trump to dump Pence and put up some sexy bimbo in his place. Then the VP debate can be a bikini mud wrestling match. 

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  14. Hang On Member
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    Moderator Note:

    Personal attack redacted.

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Roosevelt Guck (View Comment):

    I’m voting for President Trump. This is another Flight 93 election. Elect one of these folks and kiss this country goodbye.

    All elections are Flight 93 elections now because that is the mental gymnastics it takes to go all in on a piece of human garbage like Trump. 93 all the way down. Just crash the plane already all this storming the cockpit is getting boring.

    50 bucks says the country survives if Trump loses in 2020. I will pay out in food, water, or ammo if I’m wrong and you come to collect. I’ll be running the cannibal biker gang of Southside Chicago. Look for the skulls on stop signs to know you are in my territory.

    And the Russia hoax has taught you nothing. [Redacted.]

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  15. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Roosevelt Guck (View Comment):

    I’m voting for President Trump. This is another Flight 93 election. Elect one of these folks and kiss this country goodbye.

    All elections are Flight 93 elections now because that is the mental gymnastics it takes to go all in on a piece of human garbage like Trump. 93 all the way down. Just crash the plane already all this storming the cockpit is getting boring.

    50 bucks says the country survives if Trump loses in 2020. I will pay out in food, water, or ammo if I’m wrong and you come to collect. I’ll be running the cannibal biker gang of Southside Chicago. Look for the skulls on stop signs to know you are in my territory.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3stVTL5k-A

    NSFW

    The belief that the world has been ending has been going on for some time now.

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  16. Valiuth Inactive
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Roosevelt Guck (View Comment):

    I’m voting for President Trump. This is another Flight 93 election. Elect one of these folks and kiss this country goodbye.

    All elections are Flight 93 elections now because that is the mental gymnastics it takes to go all in on a piece of human garbage like Trump. 93 all the way down. Just crash the plane already all this storming the cockpit is getting boring.

    50 bucks says the country survives if Trump loses in 2020. I will pay out in food, water, or ammo if I’m wrong and you come to collect. I’ll be running the cannibal biker gang of Southside Chicago. Look for the skulls on stop signs to know you are in my territory.

    And the Russia hoax has taught you nothing. [Redacted.]

    What was it supposed to teach me oh wise one? Trump’s garbage nature is on plain and indisputable display of every day when he  opens his mouth to ejaculate whatever nonsense is currently fermenting in his low IQ brain. 

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  17. Hang On Member
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    Moderator Note:

    Rude personal attacks redacted. And please avoid attacking fellow members based on their heritage. Though you may find this of interest: http://ricochet.com/321797/archives/reminiscing-on-my-american-experience/

    Valiuth (View Comment):

     

    And the Russia hoax has taught you nothing. [Redacted.]

    What was it supposed to teach me oh wise one? Trump’s garbage nature is on plain and indisputable display of every day when he opens his mouth to ejaculate whatever nonsense is currently fermenting in his low IQ brain. 

    I guess using the national security apparatus of this country to throw elections is ok now in your estimation [redacted]. Coming from Eastern Europe, I guess that’s just normal for you.

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  18. Shawn Buell (Majestyk) Contributor
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Rep. Michael Bennet remained a non-factor, as expected.

    Unbelievable though it is, Michael Bennet is in fact a Senator from my home state of Colorado.

    Nobody knows who he is or that he is in the Senate… he is literally that forgettable, so I can’t blame you for this error.

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  19. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Most improved was Biden, who corrected his tired, befuddled performance earlier in the month. He meticulously prepared for the second round, dismissing incoming attacks with sharp oppo research on his accusers. He still has lost a step from his glory days, but he seemed a decade younger than he did at the first debate.

    Jon,

    Just as a hypothetical, if Biden can stumble past the finish line who would he pick for VP. At this point as far as the electorate goes, his strongest choice would be Tulsi. However, that isn’t the way the Democratic Party works. She hasn’t put in her time. This isn’t her moment. Kamala has a better chance for VP than Tulsi because the rabid hyper-left needs the identity politics two-fer, black & a woman. Tulsi is a woman but she’s much too ‘white’.

    Tulsi is in the wrong Party. That’s her mistake.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  20. Max Ledoux Admin
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

     

    And the Russia hoax has taught you nothing. You really are thick.

    What was it supposed to teach me oh wise one? Trump’s garbage nature is on plain and indisputable display of every day when he opens his mouth to ejaculate whatever nonsense is currently fermenting in his low IQ brain.

    I guess using the national security apparatus of this country to throw elections is ok now in your estimation oh thick one. Coming from Eastern Europe, I guess that’s just normal for you.

    You can both dial it back. 

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  21. Valiuth Inactive
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

     

    And the Russia hoax has taught you nothing. [Redacted.].

    What was it supposed to teach me oh wise one? Trump’s garbage nature is on plain and indisputable display of every day when he opens his mouth to ejaculate whatever nonsense is currently fermenting in his low IQ brain.

    I guess using the national security apparatus of this country to throw elections is ok now in your estimation [redacted]. Coming from Eastern Europe, I guess that’s just normal for you.

    To throw an election would be to lose it? Like to throw a fight? So you are, just to be clear, accusing me of being in favor of some one using  the national intelligence apparatus of the US  to make sure they lose their own re-election, because I’m from Eastern Europe?  I mean… sure why not? If some one wants to lose that badly go ahead. 

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  22. Eeyore Member
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    Drusus (View Comment):

    Break down the google searches by gender (if such a thing were possible), and I bet you’d find the large majority to be male – they just think Tulsi Gabbard is hot.

    Tulsi demonstrates the results of Scientific Research which has shown that perceived debate effectiveness is improved 73.6% by using a nicely oiled décolletage.

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  23. ctlaw Coolidge
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    James Gawron (View Comment):
    Just as a hypothetical, if Biden can stumble past the finish line who would he pick for VP. At this point as far as the electorate goes, his strongest choice would be Tulsi. However, that isn’t the way the Democratic Party works. She hasn’t put in her time. This isn’t her moment. Kamala has a better chance for VP than Tulsi because the rabid hyper-left needs the identity politics two-fer, black & a woman.

    In the unholy alliance that is the Democratic Party, several groups may think its their time.

    Womyn: Yes, but they blew the last one.

    La Raza: Heck yes (and the blacks (or demi-blacks or whiter) just had 8 years and we are much more numerous than they are).

    LBGTQ…: Yes, too.

    Hamas/ISIS/Hezbollah: It should be too early, but as Tlaib and Omar (Elmi) show, these people are insane and have little self-control. Plus, Michigan and Minnesota are swing states.

    Blacks: Time for a real African-American slave-descendant (but we’ll still settle for another pretender who can put on the dialect when he or she wants to).

    Antifa.

    Whichever of these do not get the VP slot would have to be whipped into a murderous rage to achieve the turnout the Dems. want.

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  24. fidelio102 Inactive
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    James Gawron (View Comment):
    Tulsi is in the wrong Party. That’s her mistake.

    She  certainly talks like a conservative.

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  25. iWe Coolidge
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    fidelio102 (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):
    Tulsi is in the wrong Party. That’s her mistake.

    She certainly talks like a conservative.

    I wouldn’t go that far. But I find her easy on the eyes, and pretty  level-headed in a field of lunatics.

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  26. iWe Coolidge
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    In all seriousness: my life is nicer when I get to hear nice music and look at nice things and think nice thoughts.

    It has had a direct outcome to my personal quality of life not to pick up my local paper every morning and see Hillary Clinton glaring back at me from the front page.

    Why wouldn’t I want the President of the United States to be easy on the eyes?

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  27. Bishop Wash Member
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    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Most improved was Biden, who corrected his tired, befuddled performance earlier in the month. He meticulously prepared for the second round, dismissing incoming attacks with sharp oppo research on his accusers. He still has lost a step from his glory days, but he seemed a decade younger than he did at the first debate.

    Jon,

    Just as a hypothetical, if Biden can stumble past the finish line who would he pick for VP. At this point as far as the electorate goes, his strongest choice would be Tulsi.

    It’s nothing but an odd piece of trivia, but that would be 2008: [Hawaii]-Biden and 2020: Biden-[Hawaii]. I found it interesting that the 2008 Presidential election was represented by the 1st, 48th, 49th, and 50th states. Nothing profound though. Guess Obama should have picked Richardson as VP to make it 47-50.

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  28. Stad Coolidge
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Time for Trump to dump Pence and put up some sexy bimbo in his place.

    Michelle Obama?

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  29. Kozak Member
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    Oh yeah, Slo Joe is back alright….

    “go to joe30330.com”

     

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  30. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    All elections are Flight 93 elections now because that is the mental gymnastics it takes to go all in on a piece of human garbage like Trump.

    You’re so . . . erudite.

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