Transgressive Jokes and Western Civilization

 

The day that the Challenger blew up, I was sitting in a lounge area adjacent to the cafeteria with some friends when another friend came up.

He said in an obviously joking tone, “Hey, do you know what NASA stands for?”

I bit, “No, what does it stand for?”

“Need Another Seven Astronauts?”

Talk about going from disaster to humor in nothing flat, he had it down to a few hours. These days, I’m sure he would have followed up with, “Too soon?” Of course, that joke had probably been a variant of one from Apollo 1, where it might have been, “Need Another Set of Astronauts,” so the speed came through recycling.

When the subject of the Challenger explosion came up recently, I thought about that moment. If someone today, especially a university student, cracked a tasteless joke like that on the day of a disaster, the authorities would lock him up, clear the building, and provide psychological counseling for all who had been triggered by his obtuseness towards the feelings of the snowflakes around him.

Back at that time, I had a job at the university, and my boss’ boss was a black man with an Irish last name. One day, he announced he had gotten an invitation to attend the World (his surname) Gathering in Ireland.

“Can you see me strutting in there?” he asked while acting out the strut. He imagined he would say, “‘Hi! I’m just here to add a little color to the gathering!’”

Then he looked over at me, “Hey, Charley! You know why white men dress as they do on the golf course?”

“No, Doc, why do they?”

He waved at his outfit, which included bright colors and plaid pants, “So they can dress as cool as black men do every day.”

Can you imagine anyone doing that today? Yes, the target of the humor might be construed as white men, or the target might be seen as black fashion choices.

I grew up with all sorts of transgressive jokes. We learned to laugh. We learned to have humor in horrible situations.

Q. What is Al Qaeda’s favorite football team?

A. The New York Jets.

We were not brittle. Like iron, we were worked hard with a bit of carbon (or manure) thrown our way to make us tough and flexible steel.

Some of that manure thrown our way was in the form of ethnic jokes:

Q. How does a Polack tie his shoe?

A. *The guy puts one foot up on a chair and bends down to tie the shoe on the other foot, which is on the ground.*

Q: How can you tell if a WASP is sexually excited?

A: The stiff upper lip.

Q. How can you tell when a Scotsman is dead?

A. He lets go of his wallet.

We learned to tell dirty jokes without being offended or offensive:

Q. What’s black and white, black and white, black and white, black and white, and green?

A. Four nuns fighting over a pickle.

In many ways, these jokes which would be considered offensive today were the glue that held us together. They were the hammers we were forged with. They were the naughty coals that warmed our hearts. These jokes were the building bricks of a cohesive civilization.

Sure, they could be sick and cruel or even gross:

Q. What’s red and white and hangs from the ceiling?

A. A baby on a meat hook.

Q. What’s green and hangs from the ceiling?

A. Same baby three weeks later.

Or they might make fun of people with disabilities:

Q. What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs when he’s on your porch?

A. Matt.

Q. What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs when he’s in the ocean?

A. Bob.

Hey, did you hear about the hockey game at the leper colony? There was a face off in the corner.

And they certainly made fun of professions:

Q. What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?

A. Your Honor.

Q. What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50

A. Senator.

Q. What’s the difference between an accountant and a lawyer?

A. Accountants know they’re boring.

Q. How do you know you’re talking to an extroverted actuary?

A. He looks at your shoes when he talks.

The only way for us to preserve Western Civilization is to get back to joking without worrying about who might be offended. So, give us your best. Disaster jokes? Go for it! Nun jokes? Dead baby jokes? Mommy, mommy jokes? Leper jokes? Quadruple-amputee jokes? Rude limericks? Bring ’em on.

Just remember that we still have a CoC on Ricochet, so clean up your language, you etaoin shrdlus.

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  1. Ed G. Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    But not a single 9/11 joke comes to mind.

    On the other hand we do have Holocaust jokes, don’t we? I certainly hope we have schools shooting jokes. After all what’s funnier than children getting shot?

     

    Prison rape.

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  2. Clavius Thatcher
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Jim Wright (View Comment):

    “Q: What’s the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead trombonist in the road?”

    “A: The skunk was probably on its way to a gig.”

     

    How do you get the trombone player off of your porch?

    Pay him for the pizza.

    What do you call a trombone player who just broke up with his girlfriend?

    Homeless.

    Funny, I always heard these, but about drummers. Also:

    What does it mean when your drummer is drooling out of both sides of his mouth?

    The stage is level.

    If you are into classical music, it would be a violist.

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  3. Clavius Thatcher
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    Eeyore (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Jim Wright (View Comment):

    “Q: What’s the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead trombonist in the road?”

    “A: The skunk was probably on its way to a gig.”

     

    How do you get the trombone player off of your porch?

    Pay him for the pizza.

    What do you call a trombone player who just broke up with his girlfriend?

    Homeless.

    A guy would carry his accordion in the back seat of his car. He would always put a cover over it, afraid someone might break into the car. Sure enough, one day he forgot to cover it and when he got back to the car, the rear window was broken out. Inside, he found two accordions.

     

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  4. Clavius Thatcher
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    dnewlander (View Comment):

    Clavius (View Comment):

    dnewlander (View Comment):
    Clavius’ involves sporting equipment.

    Not in the formulation I have, but I suppose it would be cleaner if it did.

    Not when the equipment is a bowling ball.

    It all depends on what follows.

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  5. Matt Bartle Member
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    Jesus on the cross calls out for Peter. Peter fights his way to Jesus through the Romans, getting beaten and stabbed along the way. Barely alive, he finally drags himself to the foot of the cross.

    “Peter…”

    “Yes, Lord?”

    “I can see your house from up here!”

     

     

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  6. Miffed White Male Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    Were there HR departments before women joined the work force?

    Women in the work force predated HR departments by thousands of years.

    True as far as it goes.

    Were there HR departments c. 1973?

    I believe they were called “Personnel” back then.

     

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  7. Arahant Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    There have hardly been any dead baby jokes.

    Surely you can rectify that?

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  8. Miffed White Male Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Lenny Bruce got in a bit of trouble for two jokes – actually a lot more than two, but these two are the ones I can remember. It’s not that big a deal to make the audience mad, but you don’t want to p*ss off Wilt Chamberlain. They said that guy could deadlift over 600 lbs.

    First: “Civil rights. I don’t do enough for civil rights. I tried marching with the protesters, but I couldn’t take all that cr*p. Six miles of watching Little Stevie Wonder bump into Ray Charles was just too [redacted] much.”

    Second, at a “roast”: “The first thing Wilt did with all that money was buy a Cadillac with a glove compartment big enough for his watermelon.”

    I believe it Lenny Bruce who walked on stage the night after the JFK assassination and opened his show with “Man, poor Vaughn Meader”.

     

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  9. Arahant Member
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    Clavius (View Comment):
    If you are into classical music, it would be a violist.

    A group of violists heard that another violist was able to play hemi-demi-demi-quavers*. So they gathered around him, “Is it true?” they asked.

    He picked up his viola and played one very short note, “Would you like to hear another?”

    * A quaver is an eighth note, so the hemi-demi-semi-quaver is a sixty-fourth note.

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  10. Miffed White Male Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    What does it mean when your drummer is drooling out of both sides of his mouth?

    The stage is level.

    Thought that was the bass player.

    Nah. Bass players have it together.

    Steve Martin:  “A banjo has a steel frame with a stretched skin covering and four strings, whereas a guitar will get you laid”.

    (Not the exact quote, at least about the description of banjo, but you get the idea)

     

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  11. Miffed White Male Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    There have hardly been any dead baby jokes.

     

    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

     

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  12. Arahant Member
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    What’s red and white and spins around very fast?

    A baby in a blender.

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  13. Judge Mental Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    There have hardly been any dead baby jokes.

     

    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

     

    That’s actually one of the only two I know, and the other is a sight gag.

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  14. Django Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Lenny Bruce got in a bit of trouble for two jokes – actually a lot more than two, but these two are the ones I can remember. It’s not that big a deal to make the audience mad, but you don’t want to p*ss off Wilt Chamberlain. They said that guy could deadlift over 600 lbs.

    First: “Civil rights. I don’t do enough for civil rights. I tried marching with the protesters, but I couldn’t take all that cr*p. Six miles of watching Little Stevie Wonder bump into Ray Charles was just too [redacted] much.”

    Second, at a “roast”: “The first thing Wilt did with all that money was buy a Cadillac with a glove compartment big enough for his watermelon.”

    I believe it Lenny Bruce who walked on stage the night after the JFK assassination and opened his show with “Man, poor Vaughn Meader”.

     

    I read that he, for some reason, almost idolized JFK. Everyone in the audience was wondering what he would say. 

    Sometimes, you gotta go with your gut. I read that when Chet Baker was touring Europe, he played with Benito Mussolini’s son. He didn’t know what to say and  came up with, “Gee, it’s a drag about your old man.”

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  15. Django Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    What’s red and white and spins around very fast?

    A baby in a blender.

    What’s blue and crawls half-way across the floor? 

    A baby in a plastic bag. 

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  16. Arahant Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

    I’ll bite. What’s the difference?

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  17. Django Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

    I’ll bite. What’s the difference?

    Don’t … don’t … just don’t ask … 

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  18. Arahant Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

    I’ll bite. What’s the difference?

    Don’t … don’t … just don’t ask …

    Too late.

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  19. Annefy Member
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    My favorite joke of all time; one in which I didn’t have to redact my language in front of my mom (she loved it too). Although I do regret the time I told it when my parish priest was right behind me in the bar line …

    The three stages of marriage:

    Kitchen sex. You’re so hot for each other you’re knocking it out on the kitchen table.

    Bedroom sex. Still hot, but now confined to the bed.

    Hallway sex. When you walk past each other in the hall and say: **** you.

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  20. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    Steve Martin: “A banjo has a steel frame with a stretched skin covering and four strings, whereas a guitar will get you laid”.

    I knew there had to be a purpose for those things

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  21. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Annefy (View Comment):
    Hallway sex. When you walk past each other in the hall and say: **** you.

    Oh.  You mean oral sex.

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  22. MeanDurphy Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

    I’ll bite. What’s the difference?

    Don’t … don’t … just don’t ask …

    Too late.

    I know…  You can use a pitchfork to unload dead babies.

     

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  23. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Hey, @cliffordbrown, if you want to consider this yesterday’s Hot Stuff, go for it. These jokes are too hot (or tasteless) to handle.

    From jokes too hot or tasteless to handle, to “stuff” too hot or ….

    Folks, please, please, do your part to elevate the tone of the June group writing theme, “Hot Stuff!” We still have several open days as the summer season starts. Please stop by and sign up to share your own angle on the topic, however loosely construed.

    Don’t let another disco inferno flare up.

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  24. The Great Adventure! Inactive
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    I’m late to the party, but…

    What do you call 3 lepers in a hot tub?

    Soup

    Why did the leper fail his driving exam?

    Kept leaving his foot on the brake

     

    When are we going to start a stream on Dad Jokes?

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  25. Arahant Member
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    The Great Adventure! (View Comment):
    When are we going to start a stream on Dad Jokes?

    Feel free to start your own thread, although these things work best on Friday afternoon. Next Friday could be yours.

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  26. Miffed White Male Member
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    MeanDurphy (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

    I’ll bite. What’s the difference?

    Don’t … don’t … just don’t ask …

    Too late.

    I know… You can use a pitchfork to unload dead babies.

     

    I prefer the punchline “You can’t unload a truck full of bowling balls with a pitchfork”.

     

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  27. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    MeanDurphy (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    You mean like the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead babies?

    I’ll bite. What’s the difference?

    Don’t … don’t … just don’t ask …

    Too late.

    I know… You can use a pitchfork to unload dead babies.

     

    I prefer the punchline “You can’t unload a truck full of bowling balls with a pitchfork”.

     

    That’s no longer a joke in Virginia, NY, and Illinois.

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  28. Ansonia Member
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    MeanDurphy (View Comment):

    My extroverted uncle Ole used to tell the story about the indian who loved tea so much that he died in his teepee.

    Then there’s the story about the Indian who arrived at the trading post and said his squaw and his papoose were very tired and footsore from walking many miles.

    Man at trading center to whom the Indian was speaking:  “Well why is the kid tired and footsore. Doesn’t your wife have one of those baskets on her back ?”

    Indian: “No room for both of us in basket.”

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  29. OldDanRhody Member
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    Why was Helen Keller unable to drive?

    She was a woman.

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  30. Judge Mental Member
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    OldDanRhody (View Comment):

    Why was Helen Keller unable to drive?

    She was a woman.

    That one deserves a Hey-o.

     

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