Heisenberg Was Right About the Theology of Frightened Warts

 

When I learned how to scare warts, my view of the whole world changed. The procedure is pretty simple. A patient comes in and asks me to remove a wart from his hand. I’m busy or don’t want to deal with cryo or surgery that day, so I frown at the wart, stroke my chin, and say, “Yeah, well, sure, but to remove that is a very painful procedure that takes a long time. We don’t have sufficient time in the schedule today for it. Come back in six weeks. We’ll do it then.” The patient comes back in six weeks, and the wart is gone. It’s called scaring a wart. I was taught this in my post-graduate training, and I used the technique (It often works!), I just didn’t understand how it worked. Because what that means, is that if your brain really wants to get rid of that wart, it can. But how?

One of my board certifications is in Clinical Lipidology, which is sort of the study of the underlying biochemistry, genetics, and molecular biology of atherosclerotic plaque deposition and rupture. I was at a Lipidology conference some years ago when a researcher brought up scaring warts. This seemed like an odd topic for a cardiovascular conference. But he had been researching the scaring of warts for years. (He must have been fun at cocktail parties: “…no, I don’t actually scare warts, I study the molecular biology which allows for the scaring of warts…” * …pretty girl slowly backs away with a frozen smile on her face… *)

Anyway, he would isolate the particular white blood cells which attack the particular viral particle which causes that particular type of wart on that particular person’s hand. Then he found a way to mark these particular cells with radionucleotide tags. He would then scare the wart, and perform serial radionucleotide scans to track the movement of these cells around the body. Simple experiment, although the details are a little tricky.

He found that these cells were pretty evenly distributed around the body, as one might expect, until he scared the wart. And then a huge majority of these cells would go directly to the wart in question. They would not go to other warts. Only the wart in question. Now think about that for a second.

That means that one of those particular white blood cells is drifting around the body, minding its own business, until it receives some sort of signal from the brain. Then, in response that signal, the cell will come to an intersection in an artery, and choose right or left, and choose again at the next intersection, and again and again and again, until it completes an extremely complex journey through a convoluted system of arteries, arterioles, and capillaries, until it gets to a very specific location on the person’s hand. And then it starts kicking some viral butt.

Now how on earth does that cell know where it’s going? How does it propel itself (or how do the arterial walls propel it) down a certain course? How does the signal from the brain work – does it use some system like GPS coordinates? Apparently blood does not flow around your body like water in a stream. It seems to be an organ which intelligently distributes resources to where they are needed at the time. Or something like that.

How on earth?

We have no idea. Not a clue.

But we spend a lot of time researching this because if we ever figure out exactly how this works, we’ve just cured cancer. We could give someone chemo, tag it to go only to the pancreas, and give enormous doses of chemo with no side effects elsewhere in the body. We could send antibiotics only to the lungs, to treat pneumonia, with no risk of intestinal complications. Just imagine what we could do. The possibilities boggle the mind. But during the lecture, that’s not what my mind was boggled by.

I was sitting there, a cup of Starbucks getting cold in my hand, wondering how something like that could simply evolve through random chance, natural selection, evolutionary pressure, survival of the fittest, and so on. Lightning hits a mud hole, and a few hundred million years later we have cellular anti-viral assassins with GPS guidance systems and elaborate communication systems to an intelligent central control hub? Man, I don’t know. That’s a little different from Boyle’s Law or something.

So I’m a slow learner. I lived my whole life surrounded by God’s miracles and I completely missed them. Until one day, God whaps me upside the head with wart research. And I just couldn’t avert my gaze any longer.

God: “Yo! Mr. Genius! Maybe things will look a little clearer to you if you OPEN YOUR #$%& EYES! C’mon! Why don’t you try using that brain I gave you, for a change?!?”

I suspect that God whapped Heisenberg upside the head with something a bit more glamorous than warts. Something like quantum mechanics. Whatever works, I suppose.

When I started my study of basic science, as a child, everything made sense. Basic science just makes sense. You can see it. But as I delved deeper and deeper into more advanced scientific study, it started to make less sense, rather than more. The things I knew became less obvious, and the things that I didn’t know became more difficult to ignore. Until I felt myself becoming less certain of even the things I thought I knew. Of everything, really. For a math/science guy, searching for understanding, it’s a disconcerting feeling.

But once I realized that perhaps things were not necessarily as random as I had previously believed, then things started to make sense again. There is a lot about science that we can understand, but I think we will eventually reach a point where we’re staring into the mind of God, and we won’t necessarily understand what we see.

I am one of the many who feel that they lack sufficient faith to remain an atheist. I tried for years. I really did. I thought I was so clever. But even clever people can’t rationalize away the obvious, sometimes. They often can, but sometimes they just can’t.

Some people see God when they look at a sunset. I see Him when I study subendothelial pathophysiology. It’s beautiful, once you know what you’re looking at. I now see the study of science sort of like a course in Art Appreciation. It’s ok if you don’t always understand what you’re looking at. It’s ok to just marvel at the wonder of it all sometimes. You continue in your unending search for understanding, but you accept that there will always be some things which remain beyond your grasp.

Atheists tend to find this to be scary – an urgent problem to be fixed – or perhaps ignored – or even more dangerously – a problem to be rationalized with false hypotheses which confirm their pre-existing biases. Religious students tend to find these same problems to be exciting – wondering “Cool! How the heck did He do this?”.

I can understand atheist artists, or atheist auto mechanics or whatever, but I really don’t understand atheist scientists. They are a very recent phenomenon, historically. How you can spend your whole life in the pursuit of scientific knowledge and not believe in God is one of the many things that is beyond my understanding. How can you not see that which you spend your life studying?

Although I couldn’t see it either, for years. It sometimes takes a while, especially for us slow learners. I hope God understands.

I know that Mr. Heisenberg does.

 

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  1. MarciN Member
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    I think part of the problem between the atheist and Judeo-Christian communities is simply credibility. I think some of the evolution theory adherents are distrustful of the scientists, archaeologists, and historians who have conducted research on the Bible as a historical record of actual events. They see that group as biased toward validating religious beliefs. The same is true on the other side–the scientists who are religious are suspicious that the evolution-only scientists are trying to validate a belief or bias rather than being open to any finding.

    This distrust filters down to the general public. People are forced to pick a side based on their cloudy perceptions rather than actual facts. Which group of experts does a person believe? No one can personally conduct all of the tests and research necessary to prove or disprove any of these theories. Everyone is working with someone else’s research and studies. So it comes down to plausibility and credibility. 

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  2. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge
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    What a tremendous peak you have offered us into the miracle operating inside our  bodies 24/7.

    Thanks Dr B.

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  3. WalterWatchpocket Coolidge
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    I sometimes experience the same epiphany in mathematics.  How does this work?  How do these same patterns emerge in different contexts.  How is it that differential equations  describe do much of the real world?  Why is the Fibonacci  sequence and the “Golden ratio” related? Or Pi, or all irrational,  transcendent numbers for that matter?

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  4. Boss Mongo Member
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    WalterWatchpocket (View Comment):
    I sometimes experience the same epiphany in mathematics. How does this work? How do these same patterns emerge in different contexts.

    @walterwatchpocket, soooo me too.  How is my bank account empty?  I tracked it.  I carried the 1’s and everything…

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  5. Roderic Fabian Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat: I suspect that God whapped Heisenberg upside the head with something a bit more glamorous than warts. Something like quantum mechanics. Whatever works, I suppose.

    A look at quantum field theory (QFT) provides a clue about what Heisenberg was referring to.  QFT is one of the most well validated theories in all science, capable of extremely accurate predictions about the nature of subatomic particles.  In QFT the postulate is that the entire universe and everything in it comes from an ensemble of fields, like the electric field and the magnetic field, that are all interrelated.  All subatomic particles, which make all matter, consist of local excitations in these fields.  So all of matter are manifestations of fields, which are all one thing, and all the fields are contained in the space-time field, which is the gravitational field.   All fields unfolded out of the primordial singularity at the beginning of the universe, the Big Bang,  and stretched out from there but remained one thing, a variation on the singularity, which was indistinguishable from absolute nothingness in the beginning.  Brought into existence out of nothing.  “Let there be light.”

    At the bottom of science things are ineffably strange.

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  6. Percival Thatcher
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    Roderic Fabian (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: I suspect that God whapped Heisenberg upside the head with something a bit more glamorous than warts. Something like quantum mechanics. Whatever works, I suppose.

    A look at quantum field theory (QFT) provides a clue about what Heisenberg was referring to. QFT is one of the most well validated theories in all science, capable of extremely accurate predictions about the nature of subatomic particles. In QFT the postulate is that the entire universe and everything in it comes from an ensemble of fields, like the electric field and the magnetic field, that are all interrelated. All subatomic particles, which make all matter, consist of local excitations in these fields. So all of matter are manifestations of fields, which are all one thing, and all the fields are contained in the space-time field, which is the gravitational field. All fields unfolded out of the primordial singularity at the beginning of the universe, the Big Bang, and stretched out from there but remained one thing, a variation on the singularity, which was indistinguishable from absolute nothingness in the beginning. Brought into existence out of nothing. “Let there be light.”

    At the bottom of science things are ineffably strange.

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  7. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Al French, sad sack (View Comment):
    do you suppose the placebo effect works on the same principle as scaring warts?

    I presume it’s the same thing, although of course I don’t really know.

    Remember, too, that placebos are toxic. Lots of side effects, in every study. Seems odd.

    Still, I think it’s a shame that we can’t use placebos. One of Jimmy Carter’s more egregious errors (and that’s quite a standard to meet) is that he passed an executive order making it illegal for doctors to lie to their patients. Which essentially outlawed placebos.

    Up until that time, placebos were well over half of prescriptions written, by some estimates. Because most illnesses will get better without intervention, and our interventions tend to be dangerous. Take the benefit of the placebo effect, hope for the best, and then treat the ones that are still sick next week with the real stuff.

    When he did that, doctors started using active drugs for everything, and the number of deaths and illnesses from drug side effects, drug allergies, and drug interactions just skyrocketed. People blamed the stupid doctors, of course. But I blame Jimmy Carter, at least in part.

    We should, for many things, instead of lauding him because he got old and was a Democrat.

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  8. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    Atheists are merely shallow and afraid; the conception of God they deny is invariably a straw man. Among scientists, I’d wager one would find a strong correlation between atheism and belief in (e.g.) anthropogenic global warming climate change.

    But at least they’re not condescending.

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  9. Skyler Coolidge
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Al French, sad sack (View Comment):
    do you suppose the placebo effect works on the same principle as scaring warts?

    I presume it’s the same thing, although of course I don’t really know.

    Remember, too, that placebos are toxic. Lots of side effects, in every study. Seems odd.

    Still, I think it’s a shame that we can’t use placebos. One of Jimmy Carter’s more egregious errors (and that’s quite a standard to meet) is that he passed an executive order making it illegal for doctors to lie to their patients. Which essentially outlawed placebos.

    Up until that time, placebos were well over half of prescriptions written, by some estimates. Because most illnesses will get better without intervention, and our interventions tend to be dangerous. Take the benefit of the placebo effect, hope for the best, and then treat the ones that are still sick next week with the real stuff.

    When he did that, doctors started using active drugs for everything, and the number of deaths and illnesses from drug side effects, drug allergies, and drug interactions just skyrocketed. People blamed the stupid doctors, of course. But I blame Jimmy Carter, at least in part.

    We should, for many things, instead of lauding him because he got old and was a Democrat.

    He got old and started a foundation that takes paying jobs from the construction industry.

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  10. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    He got old and started a foundation that takes paying jobs from the construction industry.

    If you’re referring to Habitat for Humanity, it was around before Jimmy Carter got involved.

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  11. Skyler Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):
    He got old and started a foundation that takes paying jobs from the construction industry.

    If you’re referring to Habitat for Humanity, it was around before Jimmy Carter got involved.

    Ok.  He didn’t start it.  Yawn. 

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  12. Arahant Member
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Atheists are merely shallow and afraid; the conception of God they deny is invariably a straw man. Among scientists, I’d wager one would find a strong correlation between atheism and belief in (e.g.) anthropogenic global warming climate change.

    But at least they’re not condescending.

    I laughed. Good comeback. Also wrong. One can find condescending people of any stripe, especially those who are teenagers and know everything there is to know and are right about everything. Some never get beyond that stage, of course.

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  13. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Atheists are merely shallow and afraid; the conception of God they deny is invariably a straw man. Among scientists, I’d wager one would find a strong correlation between atheism and belief in (e.g.) anthropogenic global warming climate change.

    But at least they’re not condescending.

    I laughed. Good comeback. Also wrong. One can find condescending people of any stripe, especially those who are teenagers and know everything there is to know and are right about everything. Some never get beyond that stage, of course.

    The question wasn’t whether or not anyone can find someone who condescends.  It’s whether or not this comment was condescending.

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  14. Arahant Member
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    The question wasn’t whether or not anyone can find someone who condescends. It’s whether or not this comment was condescending.

    Could have been read either way. I read it the more natural way, not the way you meant it, especially since it had the subject of “They” referring back to the antecedent of “Atheists,” and I know far too many of those who are condescending.

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  15. Skyler Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    The question wasn’t whether or not anyone can find someone who condescends. It’s whether or not this comment was condescending.

    Could have been read either way. I read it the more natural way, not the way you meant it, especially since it had the subject of “They” referring back to the antecedent of “Atheists,” and I know far too many of those who are condescending.

    I know a lot more christians who don’t realize they are condescending.

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  16. Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    The question wasn’t whether or not anyone can find someone who condescends. It’s whether or not this comment was condescending.

    Could have been read either way. I read it the more natural way, not the way you meant it, especially since it had the subject of “They” referring back to the antecedent of “Atheists,” and I know far too many of those who are condescending.

    I know a lot more christians who don’t realize they are condescending.

    I’ve noticed that the atheists who go to my church tend to be a little condescending, but maybe I have an inferiority complex?

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  17. Arahant Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    I know a lot more Christians who don’t realize they are condescending.

    I know plenty of those, as well. But nobody beats Islam. They tax Christians and Jews and jail or execute the rest.

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  18. Skyler Coolidge
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    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    The question wasn’t whether or not anyone can find someone who condescends. It’s whether or not this comment was condescending.

    Could have been read either way. I read it the more natural way, not the way you meant it, especially since it had the subject of “They” referring back to the antecedent of “Atheists,” and I know far too many of those who are condescending.

    I know a lot more christians who don’t realize they are condescending.

    I’ve noticed that the atheists who go to my church tend to be a little condescending, but maybe I have an inferiority complex?

    Okay, I’ll bite.  Why do atheists go to your church?  For the free doughnuts?

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  19. Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    The question wasn’t whether or not anyone can find someone who condescends. It’s whether or not this comment was condescending.

    Could have been read either way. I read it the more natural way, not the way you meant it, especially since it had the subject of “They” referring back to the antecedent of “Atheists,” and I know far too many of those who are condescending.

    I know a lot more christians who don’t realize they are condescending.

    I’ve noticed that the atheists who go to my church tend to be a little condescending, but maybe I have an inferiority complex?

    Okay, I’ll bite. Why do atheists go to your church? For the free doughnuts?

    It beats me, for most it’s probably more of a social thing, they go with their spouses, and have friends in the congregation. They find mission projects they can do together (they use the word “volunteer,” instead), and there’s always the politics. They can vote with the liberals and feel good about themselves. 

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  20. Stina Member
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    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):
    It beats me, for most it’s probably more of a social thing, they go with their spouses, and have friends in the congregation.

    I know several atheists who attend church.

    The primary thing is that even without believing in God, they think the church passes down good living to their kids (and has a community that reinforces that living).

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  21. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    The question wasn’t whether or not anyone can find someone who condescends. It’s whether or not this comment was condescending.

    Could have been read either way. I read it the more natural way, not the way you meant it, especially since it had the subject of “They” referring back to the antecedent of “Atheists,” and I know far too many of those who are condescending.

    Well hey, thanks for allowing it to be read either way.  But clearly you’ll take it the way you want it, and no other.

    Do I really need to mention condescension again here, after the above?  This is the some of the funniest stuff I’ve read all week.

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  22. Arahant Member
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    This is the some of the funniest stuff I’ve read all week.

    Then you’re reading it right.

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  23. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Washington Square (View Comment):

    There’s a very interesting essay by David Gelernter (professor of computer sciences at Yale) in the spring edition of the “Claremont Review of Books.” In it he discusses three books which explore the profound questions that modern molecular biology poses for Darwinism or neo-Darwinism. He concludes the essay with the idea that biological science must “get over” Darwinism and “move on” in a manner like the study of physics after Einstein moved beyond Newton. Right on target with Michael Brehm’s contribution in comment #57 above.

    Thanks for the tip – I’ll go read it.

    Gelernter is not alone in that opinion. The idea that Darwin was wrong about many of his major hypotheses is not a new idea – it’s just becoming more obvious as we do more and more research, and learn more and more about molecular biology. Electrophoresis seemed cool in the late ’50’s, but it changed the world.

    Again, evolution happens, somehow. But apparently not the way Darwin thought.

    We should cut him a little slack though. It was just an interesting hypothesis that he turned into a book. Didn’t work out. Ok, fine. Let’s move on.

    But we need to respect what he got right. Sort of like Freud. He was totally wrong about some things but on other things he was great. 

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