Hot Tunes?

 

Y’all went and made me do it. You knew I would go to Charmin and outhouses if pressed. So, here we are: disco.

The Rolling Stones went disco with “Hot Stuff” from their 1976 Black and Blue album. The lyrics are simple to trite, and the music a repetitive dance track. It did not make the Top 40, unlike the ballad “Fool to Cry.”

Credit the Stones with trying to give the people what they wanted, but if you want a dance tune titled “Hot Stuff,” you really want to go with the Queen of Disco. Donna Summer recorded an entirely different song, also entitled “Hot Stuff,” on her 1979 album, Bad Girls. Produced by English producer Pete Bellotte and Italian producer Giorgio Moroder (the master of synthesizer pop), “Hot Stuff” was the lead single and became Donna Summer’s most popular song.

The synthesizer and guitar lines are distinctively Giorgio Moroder, but the attitude is all Summer. She smolders without showing up nearly naked, unlike [fill in the latest pop tart here]. Donna Summers began her collaboration with Moroder and Bellotte after meeting them in Europe, where she was performing stage plays, like Hair, (auf Deutsch)!

The same year that the Rolling Stones’ “Hot Stuff” fizzled, Donna Summer was cooking with “Love to Love You Baby,” one of her early collaborations with Bellotte and Moroder.

The lyrics are not more sophisticated than the Stones’ “Hot Stuff,” but imagine them played back to back in a discotheque. Summer was in her element; the Stones, not so much. It is as if the Stones were waving their fans’ lighters, while Summer ignited a disco inferno. In the immortal words of Jerry Reed, “When You’re Hot, You’re Hot [When You’re Not, You’re Not]:”

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  1. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Mickey Mouse Disco? Just when I thought this thread could go no lower….

    Oh, you have no idea….

    This quite possibly represents the complete annihilation of High Western culture as we know it.

     

    We did not have television back then, but I vaguely remember hearing this novelty tune on my little AM transistor radio, or possibly at the local youth recreation center on post. So, I knew what to dig up, and where it was likely moldering.

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  2. Steve C. Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    This quite possibly represents the complete annihilation of High Western culture as we know it.

    Let them eat Bach.

     

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  3. Steven Seward Member
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    This quite possibly represents the complete annihilation of High Western culture as we know it.

    Let them eat Bach.

    Cute!   I bet they were influenced by some old Victor Borge videos.

     

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  4. Hoyacon Member
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    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    You can’t talk Disco without the most sampled song in all of ever… damn, the bass was so awesome then

    There are about 5 disco songs I have to admit to liking and this is one of them.  Nile Rodgers actually has talent.

     

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  5. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):
    Sampled more often than Amen, Brother ?

    Ain’t never heard of this. I heard Good Times referred to as the most sampled a few times over the years, though.

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  6. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Mickey Mouse Disco? Just when I thought this thread could go no lower….

    Oh, you have no idea….

    This quite possibly represents the complete annihilation of High Western culture as we know it.

     

    We did not have television back then, but I vaguely remember hearing this novelty tune on my little AM transistor radio, or possibly at the local youth recreation center on post. So, I knew what to dig up, and where it was likely moldering.

    I was given the album as a child.

    My childhood record collection would give you nightmares.

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  7. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    You can’t talk Disco without the most sampled song in all of ever… damn, the bass was so awesome then

    There are about 5 disco songs I have to admit to liking and this is one of them. Nile Rodgers actually has talent.

     

    The greatest disco track ever:

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  8. The Great Adventure! Inactive
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    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    You can’t talk Disco without the most sampled song in all of ever… damn, the bass was so awesome then

    There are about 5 disco songs I have to admit to liking and this is one of them. Nile Rodgers actually has talent.

     

    The greatest disco track ever:

    Greatest disco track?  Oxymoron

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  9. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):

    Signature Giorgio Moroder synthesizer tracks. See the 13 minute long “Chase” theme from the movie Midnight Express

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  10. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Another pop star hitting the disco trail:

    I promise to stop now.

    Bowie just needed a little help from Giorgio Moroder:

    https://youtu.be/Z9GbGO7CKdQie

     

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  11. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Steve Allen did a hysterical bit around 1980 where he talked about the poetry of modern music lyrics, and first read the lines, dead seriously, from the Beatles’ “Yesterday”, before transitioning into reading the lines, also dead seriously, from Donna Summer’s “Hot Stuff” (it used to be available on YouTube, but got taken down).

    I think I have heard this. Now, William Shattner is the undisputed master of destructive performance of popular music.

    So, it was inevitable:

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  12. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):

    Signature Giorgio Moroder synthesizer tracks. See the 13 minute long “Chase” theme from the movie Midnight Express.

    Meh.  Too much like a Kraftwerk track.  You can’t dance to that.  

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  13. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Another pop star hitting the disco trail:

    I promise to stop now.

    Bowie just needed a little help from Giorgio Moroder:

    https://youtu.be/Z9GbGO7CKdQie

     

    Another synth track that can’t really be danced to.  i.e. Not really disco.

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  14. Steven Seward Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Steve Allen did a hysterical bit around 1980 where he talked about the poetry of modern music lyrics, and first read the lines, dead seriously, from the Beatles’ “Yesterday”, before transitioning into reading the lines, also dead seriously, from Donna Summer’s “Hot Stuff” (it used to be available on YouTube, but got taken down).

    I think I have heard this. Now, William Shattner is the undisputed master of destructive performance of popular music.

    So, it was inevitable:

    The only thing keeping Shatner’s critics from lambasting his singing career is is his shabby acting career.

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  15. Steve C. Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Steve Allen did a hysterical bit around 1980 where he talked about the poetry of modern music lyrics, and first read the lines, dead seriously, from the Beatles’ “Yesterday”, before transitioning into reading the lines, also dead seriously, from Donna Summer’s “Hot Stuff” (it used to be available on YouTube, but got taken down).

    I think I have heard this. Now, William Shattner is the undisputed master of destructive performance of popular music.

    So, it was inevitable:

    The only thing keeping Shatner’s critics from lambasting his singing career is is his shabby acting career.

    I can top that

     

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  16. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Steve Allen did a hysterical bit around 1980 where he talked about the poetry of modern music lyrics, and first read the lines, dead seriously, from the Beatles’ “Yesterday”, before transitioning into reading the lines, also dead seriously, from Donna Summer’s “Hot Stuff” (it used to be available on YouTube, but got taken down).

    I think I have heard this. Now, William Shattner is the undisputed master of destructive performance of popular music.

    So, it was inevitable:

    The only thing keeping Shatner’s critics from lambasting his singing career is is his shabby acting career.

    I can top that

    The Vulcan for the win on the hot list.

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  17. Steven Seward Member
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    This thread is still going??  I expected it to die a well-deserved death over 20 comments ago.  Perhaps Leonard Nimoy has pounded the last nail in the coffin.

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  18. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    This thread is still going?? I expected it to die a well-deserved death over 20 comments ago. Perhaps Leonard Nimoy has pounded the last nail in the coffin.

    You do know that is waving a red cape in front of the Ricochetti, right?

     

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  19. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    It is African-American Music Appreciation Month. I might roll out another music post, with a somewhat wider and deeper playlist. I was deadly serious about inviting a R> jazz aficionado to write on hot jazz, or maybe hot jazz and the birth of the cool! 

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  20. Gary McVey Contributor
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    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Another pop star hitting the disco trail:

    I promise to stop now.

    Bowie just needed a little help from Giorgio Moroder:

    https://youtu.be/Z9GbGO7CKdQie

     

    Another synth track that can’t really be danced to. i.e. Not really disco.

    Actual comment of a woman forty years ago: “Wow, I had no idea you could dance!”

    Actual McVey reply: “I can’t. You’re drunk”. 

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  21. Kelsey Shockey Inactive
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    This is what disco hath wrought:

    As a White Sox fan, I approve this comment.

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  22. The Great Adventure! Inactive
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    I chafe at referring to this as disco, but if it is in that category it is by FAR the greatest song of that genre.  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk

     

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  23. Archie Campbell Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    This is what disco hath wrought:

     

    Disco wrought that? Or a bunch of drunk morons, egged on by a dumb owner did? This is proof that cities have mouth-breathing rednecks too. (I don’t think “redneck” is necessarily pejorative, but in this case it is, and is apt.)

     

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  24. Archie Campbell Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Another pop star hitting the disco trail:

    That’s way too late for disco, though it is dance music.

     

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  25. Kelsey Shockey Inactive
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    Archie Campbell (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    This is what disco hath wrought:

     

    Disco wrought that? Or a bunch of drunk morons, egged on by a dumb owner did? This is proof that cities have mouth-breathing rednecks too. (I don’t think “redneck” is necessarily pejorative, but in this case it is, and is apt.)

     

    It was more Steve Dahl, but ownership got what they wanted (a full stadium).

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  26. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    This quite possibly represents the complete annihilation of High Western culture as we know it.

    Let them eat Bach.

    Cute! I bet they were influenced by some old Victor Borge videos.

     

    P.D.Q. Bach was a separate classical music comedy enterprise. It was based in the underlying joke of “undiscovered” classical music. “Professor” Peter Schickele put on works attributed to the forgotten Bach, P.D.Q. — a play on C.P.E. Bach and the enormous progeny, 20 children total, by his first and second wife, of J.S. Bach.

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  27. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    The Great Adventure! (View Comment):

    I chafe at referring to this as disco, but if it is in that category it is by FAR the greatest song of that genre.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk

     

    It absolutely does have that rock solid 4/4 beat. You would definitely see people do the hustle to it. For those unaware, the hustle was a pairs dance with definite footwork, like swing, but in a different time signature. Like some other new dances, it even had a song titled “Do the Hustle.”

    Pretty peppy, huh? Gets your toes tapping and might put a smile on your face when you are stuck in traffic. Yes, it is just a bit of froth, but enjoy the bubbles for the moment.

     

     

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  28. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Coolidge
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    As a man of taste, if not wealth, I assume instead of Hot Tunes you meant to refer to Hot Tuna.

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  29. Steven Seward Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):P.D.Q. Bach was a separate classical music comedy enterprise. It was based in the underlying joke of “undiscovered” classical music. “Professor” Peter Schickele put on works attributed to the forgotten Bach, P.D.Q. — a play on C.P.E. Bach and the enormous progeny, 20 children total, by his first and second wife, of J.S. Bach.

    I discovered a while back that Peter Shickele also did serious music compositions.  The pieces I listened to were pretty good!

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  30. Steve C. Member
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    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Another pop star hitting the disco trail:

    I promise to stop now.

    Bowie just needed a little help from Giorgio Moroder:

    https://youtu.be/Z9GbGO7CKdQie

     

    Another synth track that can’t really be danced to. i.e. Not really disco.

    Actual comment of a woman forty years ago: “Wow, I had no idea you could dance!”

    Actual McVey reply: “I can’t. You’re drunk”.

    Was there a second date?

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