Cauliflower Colonialism: Why Socialism Doesn’t Work

 

When an important member of society, like a member of Congress, criticizes a vegetable for being too “colonial” we may want to take notice. So what vegetable is trying to colonize our nation against our will? According to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, growing cauliflower is a colonialist pursuit.

Defending cauliflower is a bridge too far for me? Taste is one issue, but why would she give political credence to vegetable. It is because . . . well it’s like . . . Oh, just watch her video.

Incoherent babbling aside, she does make a valid point. Not so much about colonialism but the fact that different people have different tastes, different likes and dislikes, different wants and desires. And in admitting this she is showing us all why socialism doesn’t work.

Central planners can never come up with a community garden that will please everyone in a community. AOC seems to suggest that communities should be segregated, so you can grow white people vegetables in one community and Latin American people vegetables in another (never mind that the climate in the Bronx may not optimal for Central American plants). Even still, lots of white people don’t want cauliflower, and some Hispanics don’t care for yucca. Only by letting individuals grow their own gardens and select their own plants can you have something that will be acceptable to everyone.

And so my colonialist friend, cauliflower, thank you for getting the young representative from New York to admit that socialism won’t work. Not sure she sees it that way, but that was my takeaway from her video.

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  1. OkieSailor Member

    So the plebes don’t like to work in the ‘community’ garden because they would have to grow honky veggies? Or maybe they are smart enough to realize that when they work in a community garden their produce will be shared with those who don’t have the motivation to get out and work along side them. That’s the real reason Socialism doesn’t work, people, even poor people, aren’t that stupid. Duh.
    As they used to say in Soviet Russia, “They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.”

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:02 AM PDT
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  2. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    Vance Richards: never mind that the climate in the Bronx may not optimal for Central American plants)

    That was my first thought. And that yucca takes up a lot of space. But I confess that if there are community garden overlords who invade neighboring gardens, and force them to plant cauliflower against their will while ripping out their yucca and nopales, I would be firmly against it.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:19 AM PDT
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  3. Keith Rice Inactive

    About 10 years ago I was taking classes at the U and in an anthropology course we watched a film about colonial food distribution destroying Jamaica, it wasn’t cauliflower it was chicken … and American industry was destroying Jamaica with their unfair practices.

    This particular course was designed by a Marxist anthropology department and was only one of many lessons we endured about the evils of capitalism. Someone as naive and self righteous as AOC would be an easy target for such Marxist propaganda.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:23 AM PDT
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  4. Doug Watt Member

    AOC Mini Me has probably been banned on Twitter.

    https://youtu.be/qGAoFZzrOWc

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:26 AM PDT
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  5. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    Keith Rice (View Comment):

    About 10 years ago I was taking classes at the U and in an anthropology course we watched a film about colonial food distribution destroying Jamaica, it wasn’t cauliflower it was chicken … and American industry was destroying Jamaica with their unfair practices.

    This particular course was designed by a Marxist anthropology department and was only one of many lessons we endured about the evils of capitalism. Someone as naive and self righteous as AOC would be an easy target for such Marxist propaganda.

    Yucca would therefore be a colonial plant in the Bronx. We must stop it.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:27 AM PDT
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  6. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Post author

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Vance Richards: never mind that the climate in the Bronx may not optimal for Central American plants)

    That was my first thought. And that yucca takes up a lot of space. But I confess that if there are community garden overlords who invade neighboring gardens, and force them to plant cauliflower against their will while ripping out their yucca and nopales, I would be firmly against it.

    Now with enough global warming we could probably grow a lot of new things in NYC . . . but this is about stopping global warming, or climate change, or progress . . . 

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:42 AM PDT
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  7. JoelB Member

    So you don’t just walk into a community and start telling people how to do things? She is appropriating my conservative culture.

    On another note, another famous New York personality once said “You can observe a lot just by looking.”

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:43 AM PDT
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  8. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Post author

    JoelB (View Comment):

    So you don’t just walk into a community and start telling people how to do things? She is appropriating my conservative culture.

    On another note, another famous New York personality once said “You can observe a lot just by looking.”

    A direct quote from near the end of the video (4:22), “You don’t kind of come into a community and impose what you think is right.” Evidently she feels this applies to community gardens and no other aspect of life.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 10:51 AM PDT
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  9. Juliana Member

    My understanding of a community garden is that you are allotted a space that you plant, take care of, and harvest. If they have rules about what you can plant, that kind of defeats the purpose. Are these more like co-op gardens, where someone decides what will be planted, recruits the ‘farmers’ and then they all share equally in the harvest? I would think that if anyone were going to take the time and effort to garden, they would plant what they wanted to eat within the parameters of climate and growing season. This just seems like another way to segregate the population – heaven forbid that you like and eat foods outside your own culture.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 11:19 AM PDT
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  10. PHCheese Member

    Cauliflower a great carrier for butter!

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    • May 28, 2019, at 11:46 AM PDT
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  11. Gossamer Cat Coolidge

    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Cauliflower a great carrier for butter!

    And cheese, @phcheese

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    • May 28, 2019, at 11:54 AM PDT
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  12. Scott Wilmot Member

    Every time I hear her speak she proves to me more and more how stupid she is. Isn’t she the one who wants to impose the Green New Deal on us? But according to her, that’s not how you do it. What a moron.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 12:08 PM PDT
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  13. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Post author

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    Every time I hear her speak she proves to me more and more how stupid she is. Isn’t she the one who wants to impose the Green New Deal on us? But according to her, that’s not how you do it. What a moron.

    A lot of Leftists promote bad policies, but I think she gets so much attention because she doesn’t sound very smart and just sort of throws out a bunch of leftist catch phrases and links them together with a bunch of “ums” and “likes.”

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    • May 28, 2019, at 1:08 PM PDT
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  14. Randy Webster Member

    Vance Richards (View Comment):
    A direct quote from near the end of the video (4:22), “You don’t kind of come into a community and impose what you think is right.” Evidently she feels this applies to community gardens and no other aspect of life.

    I sort of figured that’s what she wants to do to me.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 3:13 PM PDT
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  15. Randy Webster Member

    Juliana (View Comment):
    then they all share equally in the harvest?

    The Pilgrims couldn’t make it work.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 3:13 PM PDT
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  16. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Post author

    Also, she mentions “communities of color” but wouldn’t she qualify as a White Hispanic?

    Certainly seems whiter than other white hispanics, right?

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    • May 28, 2019, at 3:43 PM PDT
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  17. Slow on the uptake Thatcher

    Only part way through the video: Already I’ve learned that “Nature is a fundamental right.”

    Guess figuring out what that means is left as an exercise for the listener/reader.

    Edit: OK now I’ve watched the whole thing. Two comments – first, @vancerichards you caused me to spend five minute I could have more profitably spent picking my nose; second, the woman needs to be in a home for the simple-minded. Or a brain transplant.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 4:07 PM PDT
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  18. Basil Fawlty Member

    Slow on the uptake (View Comment):
    you caused me to spend five minute I could have more profitably spent picking my nose;

    There is nothing more profitable than picking a nose. Perhaps you’re too slow on the uptake.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 4:32 PM PDT
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  19. Western Chauvinist Member

    She couldn’t find two coherent thoughts to rub together to save her life.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 4:48 PM PDT
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  20. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Post author

    Slow on the uptake (View Comment):
    @vancerichards you caused me to spend five minute I could have more profitably spent picking my nose

    Watch it again only this time imagine it is a parody account and see if it doesn’t make you laugh.

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    • May 28, 2019, at 4:50 PM PDT
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  21. James Gawron Thatcher

    Vance,

    So let’s get this straight. This strange little lunatic (with the big googly eyes) who somehow has become a congressperson wants to spend a ludicrous amount of time (and no doubt money) planting so-called community gardens in NYC that are some sort of ideological obsession that conform to identity politics pseudo-concepts. Of course, the NYPD is probably patrolling the garden day & night to keep schizophrenic homeless squatters out. So the really “huge” question is who is the bigger lunatic the homeless squatters or AOC.

    It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  22. I Walton Member

    It’s a way to have some extra green space in a city and give older folks healthy recreation. It’s very expensive land probably good where we need open green spaces, but it doesn’t nor could it ever produce agricultural wealth. Good lord what utter nonsense.

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  23. Stina Member

    Vance Richards: Only by letting individuals grow their own gardens and select their own plants can you have something that will be acceptable to everyone.

    The whole point of a community garden was to provide a common area so that people without time or space could help when they can without murdering their gardens.

    I can understand why we wouldn’t want tax money to go to it, but lifting regulations that prevent people from doing it on their own seems like at least a step in the right direction.

    As it stands, some city ordinances prevent any edible gardening on your own property.

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    • May 29, 2019, at 4:51 AM PDT
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  24. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Post author

    I Walton (View Comment):

    It’s a way to have some extra green space in a city and give older folks healthy recreation. It’s very expensive land probably good where we need open green spaces, but it doesn’t nor could it ever produce agricultural wealth. Good lord what utter nonsense.

    If you look at the garden in the video it is pretty small (city real estate is too expensive to have a community farm). These are nice little green spaces but they are not going to noticeably supplement anyone’s food budget. Yet she tells us they are an important part of the Green New Deal. How so? Will raised garden beds with cilantro cause the seas to stop rising, or whatever is supposed to happen?

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    • May 29, 2019, at 5:26 AM PDT
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  25. Western Chauvinist Member

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    I Walton (View Comment):

    It’s a way to have some extra green space in a city and give older folks healthy recreation. It’s very expensive land probably good where we need open green spaces, but it doesn’t nor could it ever produce agricultural wealth. Good lord what utter nonsense.

    If you look at the garden in the video it is pretty small (city real estate is too expensive to have a community farm). These are nice little green spaces but they are not going to noticeably supplement anyone’s food budget. Yet she tells us they are an important part of the Green New Deal. How so? Will raised garden beds with cilantro cause the seas to stop rising, or whatever is supposed to happen?

    Plantains for plaudits? 

    Really, there’s nothing be raised here other than the Left’s self-regard. They’re just so darned special!

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    • May 29, 2019, at 5:39 AM PDT
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  26. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards Post author

    James Gawron (View Comment):
    the NYPD is probably patrolling the garden day & night to keep schizophrenic homeless squatters out

    “OMG! You just gave me a great idea. You know how like people in the olden days would make scarecrows out of straw? Well like, today we know straws are bad so we could just get some like urine soaked homeless guys to scare away the birds. Oh wait. Crows are black, right? Maybe we need to be more inclusive about which birds we allow in?”

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  27. Slow on the uptake Thatcher

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Plantains for plaudits? 

    I love it!

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  28. Doug Watt Member

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    I Walton (View Comment):

    It’s a way to have some extra green space in a city and give older folks healthy recreation. It’s very expensive land probably good where we need open green spaces, but it doesn’t nor could it ever produce agricultural wealth. Good lord what utter nonsense.

    If you look at the garden in the video it is pretty small (city real estate is too expensive to have a community farm). These are nice little green spaces but they are not going to noticeably supplement anyone’s food budget. Yet she tells us they are an important part of the Green New Deal. How so? Will raised garden beds with cilantro cause the seas to stop rising, or whatever is supposed to happen?

    Well it appears that AOC doesn’t have any real understanding of the Socialist Workers Paradise. Starting your own food production is hoarding, you become an economic wrecker. Millions of Ukrainians found that out the hard way in the 30’s.

     

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  29. James Gawron Thatcher

    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    Starting your own food production is hoarding, you become an economic wrecker. Millions of Ukrainians found that out the hard way in the 30’s.

    Doug,

    Yep, if your milk cow had a calf then you were an owner of two cows and this was obvious proof that you were a Kulak. Planting that 1/4 acre of potatoes so you’d have a little food come winter and even sell a bucket or two for pennies to starving neighbors was another proof that you were a Kulak. No more Kulaks.

    Imagine what Stalin could have done if he’d known about cultural appropriation. Stalin was the Babe Ruth of the purge as it was. With cultural appropriation, he could have hit 120 homers and killed 10s of millions more.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  30. Autistic License Member

    Go with zucchini. No one steals, envies, or feels shortchanged about zucchini. 

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