Fran Lebowitz: Still Upset Fawn Died in Animal House

 

Liberal media, double standards; same song, different verse. We already knew HBO promotes leftist propaganda, whether it’s Vice, Bill Maher, John Oliver, or ensuring its Game of Thrones middle-earth soap opera is diverse enough for their woke overlords. When Vanity Fair Contributing Editor (liberal author) Fran Lebowitz stated to Maher’s barking seal audience that impeachment was not enough for President Trump she added that he “deserves to be handed over to the Saudis” to face the same treatment as the late journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was brutally killed and dismembered.

When asked whether she believes Trump should face impeachment, Lebowitz responded: ‘Impeachment would be just the beginning of what he deserves, not even scratching the surface of what he deserves.

She continued: ‘Whenever I think about this and what he really deserves, I think ‘We should turn him over to the Saudis!’ His buddies! The same Saudis who got rid of that reporter [Khashoggi]. Maybe they could do the same for him!’

Imagine anyone on HBO or in any mainstream media saying this about President Obama. What would be the blowback? Would Bill Maher still even have a show? Which members of the White House Press Pool would shout questions about it to the Press Secretary? Would we end up seeing the tan-suited one downplay it at the podium, remaining above the fray of his unhinged critics?

Apparently, the Producers at Real Time were surprised (shocked!) at the social media outrage and during the shows “Overtime” episode informed Fawn’s bereaved sister where she responded: “I regret saying it.” Ok, a good start … that’s almost an apology.

She continued, “I regret everyone misinterpreted it because they misinterpret everything.”

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There are 30 comments.

  1. Tex929rr Coolidge

    The Fawn reference is delicious. A kiln explosion, IIRC.

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    • May 18, 2019, at 11:22 AM PDT
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  2. Podkayne of Israel Member

    Where were you when you first heard about that tragic kiln accident?

    I guess I am twice bereft then, because I remember when Fran was actually funny, hilariously so. And surely the loss of a great sense of humor is more tragic than that of a fictional character, along with some lousy ceramics.

     

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    • May 18, 2019, at 11:27 AM PDT
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  3. GFHandle Member

    That’s just the thing. Leftists proclaim and value their edginess, their superiority to normal “bourgie” moral values while conservatives value traditional norms. So, conservatives won’t be “funny” in this way. So they get hung not for saying that someone is a pos and should die but rather for saying that a fetus should not be squashed in the womb with forceps.

    The lady is smart, for sure, but also somewhat damaged, it seems.

     

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    • May 18, 2019, at 11:29 AM PDT
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  4. Hoyacon Member

    Liebowitz reached her career peak banging a gavel on Law and Order. She seems rather upset that it’s been all downhill since then.

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    • May 18, 2019, at 12:02 PM PDT
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  5. Columbo Member

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnzmpORTE8

    Fawn Fran … such a minx! What a lively sense of humor! She was going to make me a pot!

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    • May 18, 2019, at 12:06 PM PDT
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  6. The Reticulator Member

    Lots of names here that I don’t know about. But who is the tan-suited one? 

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    • May 18, 2019, at 12:32 PM PDT
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  7. Dave Sussman Contributor
    Dave Sussman Post author

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Lots of names here that I don’t know about. But who is the tan-suited one?

    Image result for obama tan suit

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    • May 18, 2019, at 12:35 PM PDT
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  8. The Reticulator Member

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Lots of names here that I don’t know about. But who is the tan-suited one?

    Image result for obama tan suit

    Thanks. I know who he is, but hadn’t known he went for tan suits. They look good on him. (I remember seeing Hubert Humphrey campaigning on a hot 4th of July in a white summer suit. Looked old-fashioned and just right for him.) 

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    • May 18, 2019, at 12:41 PM PDT
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  9. Dave Sussman Contributor
    Dave Sussman Post author

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Lots of names here that I don’t know about. But who is the tan-suited one?

    Image result for obama tan suit

    Thanks. I know who he is, but hadn’t known he went for tan suits. They look good on him. (I remember seeing Hubert Humphrey campaigning on a hot 4th of July in a white summer suit. Looked old-fashioned and just right for him.)

    As far as the media was concerned, the tan suit ‘controversy’ was Obama’s worst (and only) scandal. 

    Pendulum swings are fun. 

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    • May 18, 2019, at 12:46 PM PDT
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  10. DonG Coolidge

    Khashoggi was not a journalist. He was anti-government propagandist from a country that has a very low tolerance for sedition.

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    • May 18, 2019, at 1:20 PM PDT
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  11. Randy Webster Member

    What is it that Trump has done that makes leftists think he needs to be impeached (or worse)? Beating Hillary in ’16?

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    • May 18, 2019, at 1:23 PM PDT
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  12. The Great Adventure! Member

    Maher really should keep in mind the inevitable conclusion to getting a date with Lebowitz and her friends.

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    • May 18, 2019, at 1:38 PM PDT
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  13. EDISONPARKS Member

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    What is it that Trump has done that makes leftists think he needs to be impeached (or worse)? Beating Hillary in ’16?

    It is (D) commonly accepted conversation to hate Trump, and from there to not accept the notion Trump should be impeached would be a step in the wrong direction toward being ostracized from the (D)/Lefty community of secular, vegan, green, LGBTABCDEF Trans something, whateverness of (D) social acceptability.

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    • May 18, 2019, at 1:51 PM PDT
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  14. Keith Rice Member

    The loss of civility in that fetid echo chamber should be of concern to all decent people.

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    • May 18, 2019, at 7:22 PM PDT
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  15. James Gawron Thatcher

    Dave,

    Forgive me Dave but my first thought upon hearing this was that Fran should be dropped into an ISIS stronghold [redacted]. Then we could comment that no one should get over excited about this as ISIS is just the JV team.

    Forgive me, Dave.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • May 18, 2019, at 7:34 PM PDT
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  16. Skyler Coolidge

    Her mannerisms do not tend to give one faith in her mental stability.

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    • May 18, 2019, at 8:50 PM PDT
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  17. JosePluma Thatcher

    [redacted]

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    • May 18, 2019, at 9:41 PM PDT
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  18. James Lileks Contributor

    Her first book, in 1978, was amusing, and sold well. Her second book, which came three years later, was less amusing, and sold less well. Her third book was a “greatest hits” compilation from the previous books. The fourth book was a children’s story. Since:

    • Progress [Unfinished]
    • Exterior Signs of Wealth [Unfinished]
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    • May 18, 2019, at 11:42 PM PDT
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  19. E. Kent Golding Member

    I have read a couple of Fran’s books, which were extremely funny. If she manages to write another, I will read it, She should put a humor column on the internet or into a newspaper or magazine. However, anyone who listens to her for political or practical advice is nuts. When she is observing the human scene, and not pontificating on politics, she is worth reading.

    Politicians should be evaluated on their ability to deliver laws and policies that encourage freedom, public safety, justice, and economic success. Expecting politicians to be role models , inspirational leaders, or spiritual leaders is just plain nuts.

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    • May 19, 2019, at 1:48 AM PDT
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  20. Randy Webster Member

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):
    Politicians should be evaluated on their ability to deliver laws and policies that encourage freedom, public safety, justice, and economic success

    That lets out at least half of them.

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    • May 19, 2019, at 2:11 AM PDT
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  21. RufusRJones Member

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):
    Politicians should be evaluated on their ability to deliver laws and policies that encourage freedom, public safety, justice, and economic success. Expecting politicians to be role models , inspirational leaders, or spiritual leaders is just plain nuts.

    This is so perfect, particularly for this era. Well done. 

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    • May 19, 2019, at 3:41 AM PDT
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  22. Podkayne of Israel Member

    I believe it was in her collection, Metropolitan Life that Fran Leibowitz shrewdly observed that diversions should be judged on three qualifications:

    1) Is it attractive?

    2) Is it amusing?

    3) Does it Know Its Place?

    By my reckoning, in her recent television interviews, she is in violation on all 3 counts.

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    • May 19, 2019, at 4:02 AM PDT
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  23. Basil Fawlty Member

    No canticle for you!

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    • May 19, 2019, at 5:51 AM PDT
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  24. Percival Thatcher

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    No canticle for you!

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    • May 19, 2019, at 5:56 AM PDT
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  25. Dave Sussman Contributor
    Dave Sussman Post author

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    I have read a couple of Fran’s books, which were extremely funny. If she manages to write another, I will read it, She should put a humor column on the internet or into a newspaper or magazine. However, anyone who listens to her for political or practical advice is nuts. When she is observing the human scene, and not pontificating on politics, she is worth reading.

    Wish more entertainers understood this. Because a Marc Maron or Brian Eno are talented in their lane doesn’t qualify them to preach how society should remake complex economic systems.

    Politicians should be evaluated on their ability to deliver laws and policies that encourage freedom, public safety, justice, and economic success. Expecting politicians to be role models , inspirational leaders, or spiritual leaders is just plain nuts.

    Can someone get this last sentence placed at the top of every voter ballot?

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    • May 19, 2019, at 8:35 AM PDT
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  26. RufusRJones Member

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    Politicians should be evaluated on their ability to deliver laws and policies that encourage freedom, public safety, justice, and economic success. Expecting politicians to be role models , inspirational leaders, or spiritual leaders is just plain nuts.

    Can someone get this last sentence placed at the top of every voter ballot?

    Especially now while we have Justin Amash chiming in on the highly unconstitutional and un-American Muller Report #2. 

    I am so sick of needing lawyers to break down every single thing the left and some Republicans are doing to Trump, to figure out if it’s unfair or not. 

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    • May 19, 2019, at 8:39 AM PDT
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  27. JosePluma Thatcher

    James Gawron (View Comment):
     

    Dave,

    Forgive me Dave but my first thought upon hearing this was that Fran should be dropped into an ISIS stronghold [redacted]. Then we could comment that no one should get over excited about this as ISIS is just the JV team.

    Forgive me, Dave.

    Regards,

    Jim

    JosePluma (View Comment):
    [redacted]

    Well, @jamesgawron, I guess we’ve established the limits of tasteless humor on Ricochet.

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    • May 19, 2019, at 8:44 AM PDT
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  28. James Gawron Thatcher

    JosePluma (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Dave,

    Forgive me Dave but my first thought upon hearing this was that Fran should be dropped into an ISIS stronghold [redacted]. Then we could comment that no one should get over excited about this as ISIS is just the JV team.

    Forgive me, Dave.

    Regards,

    Jim

    JosePluma (View Comment):
    [redacted]

    Well, @jamesgawron, I guess we’ve established the limits of tasteless humor on Ricochet.

    Jose,

    Isn’t it a bit ironic that Fran can say something incredibly tasteless about the President of the United States freely on a well-known television program? We say something that is proportionately tasteless in response back to her on a private website that few people will view, and we are redacted?

    I am not challenging Ricochet’s right to make its own judgments about the content herein. However, in a society that accepts Liebowitz’s grotesque commentary and Maher’s right to spew it forth in front of millions of viewers perhaps our comments might be seen as poetic justice. If they had been seen at all.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • May 19, 2019, at 8:57 AM PDT
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  29. Shauna Hunt Member

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Liebowitz reached her career peak banging a gavel on Law and Order. She seems rather upset that it’s been all downhill since then.

    She is one of my favorite judges on Law & Order.

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    • May 19, 2019, at 2:50 PM PDT
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  30. Hoyacon Member

    Shauna Hunt (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Liebowitz reached her career peak banging a gavel on Law and Order. She seems rather upset that it’s been all downhill since then.

    She is one of my favorite judges on Law & Order.

    Yes. I think she only did prelims, which is where they allowed humor. The overweight balding guy was VG too.

     

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    • May 19, 2019, at 3:21 PM PDT
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