Bulwark Report: When All You Have Is an Anti-Trump Hammer…

 

I think Jonathan V. Last is a very funny fellow, in a dark and sardonic way. I enjoy him on the Sub-Beacon podcast and wherever else I hear him. He’s an amusing, irreverent, nebbish fellow, and I don’t like saying bad things about him.

But his latest piece at The Bulwark, entitled Donald and Jussie, Birds of a Feather, is trying too hard to fulfill The Bulwark’s mission, which is to spare no expense, grace, or integrity in its effort to besmirch the all-too-readily besmirchable President Trump.

JVL writes:

First, here’s President Donald Trump claiming “complete and total exoneration” of all charges in the Mueller investigation.

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And now here’s actor Jussie Smollett claiming that he’d been “truthful and consistent” in the face of charges that he’d committed a hate-crime hoax.

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The symmetry here is perfect. Absolutely perfect. The only thing we really know from Bob Mueller’s lips is that on the subject of obstruction: “while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.” That’s eerily similar to the words said by the prosecutor who dismissed the charges against Smollett, saying that he “does not believe [Smollett] is innocent.”

Now you can believe that both of these men have been judged as innocent because the legal system has declined to prosecute them. Or you can believe that both of them can be viewed with suspicion because the official verdict of the legal system is not the last word in actual culpability.

But you cannot claim that one of them must now be treated as totally and completely innocent but that the other is clearly guilty. Which is what most of America seems to be doing.

Do you see what he did there? It’s true that President Trump overstated the case with his “complete and total exoneration” comment. But is it true, as JVL claims, that the “symmetry here is perfect?”

On the one hand, we have a man who has just been definitively cleared of a charge that has hounded him for two years, who knew he was innocent the day the investigation started, who has professed his innocence all along, who could have stopped the investigation at any point but chose not to, and who almost certainly has not obstructed justice and, if he hasn’t, is fully aware that he hasn’t and that the justice department will now agree with him.

On the other hand, we have a man who has just been mysteriously absolved of responsibility for a crime he certainly committed, who has lied since the first moments of his case, and who continues to lie about his innocence now.

What Trump is saying, in essence, is “I didn’t collude with the Russians, and I didn’t obstruct justice in the investigation of a crime I know I didn’t commit. I allowed the investigation to run to its conclusion. I am exonerated.” His mistake was in his failure to add “… or I will be in a few days when the justice department acknowledges that I didn’t obstruct justice,” as it undoubtedly will.

What Smollett is saying is “I am innocent,” when in fact the little fraud is guilty as sin and everyone knows it.

That’s only “symmetric” if you’re tilted as far to one side as the good folks at The Bulwark appear to be.

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  1. Gary Robbins Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Bulwark appears to be driving their train wreck of a magazine from irrelevance to inanity.

    They wanted to create a new political movement and all they got is a very exclusive members only coffee clutch.

    The Bulwark has 500 contributors like me who help fund the effort, and chipped in without being asked.  Their daily traffic for the podcast and down of articles is increasing.  As I have said, The Bulwark is second only to Ricochet.

    There is another aspect that must be mentioned.  My parents divorced when I was in college.  And I love both of my parents.  I love both Ricochet and The Bulwark.  The folks at The Bulwark have never attacked Ricochet.  But some folks at Ricochet will attack The Bulwark.  This feels not unlike my sainted mother saying negative stuff about my father; I don’t like it.  I want to be able to love both of my parents, and I want to be able to love both Ricochet and The Bulwark.

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  2. Gary Robbins Member
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    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    People are still talking about the mueller report?

    Just wait until it is published!

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  3. Gary Robbins Member
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    JosePluma (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    “It’s not a theory but a matter of historical record that Vladimir Putin’s Russia hacked American emails and used them help elect Trump to the presidency in an attempt to sow discord in the United States during the election and succeeded with the help of the anti-Trump media.

    FIFY

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    “while [the Mueller] report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

    Since it is impossible to prove a negative, how is that not exoneration?

    There is a huge difference in being found “not guilty” and innocent.

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  4. Gary Robbins Member
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    Time to go to bed.

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  5. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    The problem with making your mission statement damning Trump and annoying his supporters is some weeks Trump doesn’t do anything that makes a very ripe target, and you end up grasping at straws. That’s the problem the 24/7/365 news channels and online outlets who’ve made attacking Trump the driving passion of their existence also have run into. Combined with immediate gratification syndrome, it means if whatever they’re attacking Trump on today doesn’t show signs of going viral within 48-72 hours, they find something else to obsess about, whether it’s real or imagined.

    ***

    Does Last think Robert Mueller and Kim Foxx did the same thing? Does he think Trump’s as guilty as Jussie Smollett? I’d certainly hope for his own personal sanity he doesn’t, but that’s by inference the analogy he’s seemingly making here, because he’s irked that the Russia-collusion story is fake (and in this one, Jonah Goldberg on his podcast said the same thing basically that I wrote last week — if Trump had won the biggest upset election in U.S. history with Vladamir Putin’s help, he never would have had the self control not to tell the world what he did for almost 2 1/2 years. If Trump’s not giving the Bulwark any good material this week, they just need to find something else to write about for a while).

    I think that both Trump and Smollett are liars. Smollett’s single lie was much worse. But Trump has a lifetime of lying and has taken over a political party in service of his ego.

    The analogy wouldn’t be between Robert Mueller and Kim Foxx. Mueller is an investigator, and Foxx is the prosecutor. Mueller is parallel to the Chicago Chief of Police. AG Barr is parallel to SA Foxx.

    Which is why is was a lazy, knuckleheaded analogy on the part of Last. Along with the fact that Foxx’s action started falling apart from the moment of the ruling.

     

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  6. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    I’m not partisan enough to have strong feelings about the Bulwark or any other news/opinion site really. Some stuff on American Greatness is interesting, the same is true of Jezebel. Both are usually silly but I don’t care, partisans gonna partisan. And I do think this whole nonsense about Trump and Russia is just an exercise in partisan politics.

    I have zero doubt, zero! that if Trump were some basic Dem, 99.9% of the people yammering about presidential harassment and exoneration or whatever would be undistinguishable from the Maddows, Boots and liberals generally.

    I never cared that much about the whole investigation and after the 131st 10,000 word piece by Andy McCarthy I called it quits. Besides, every other presidential admin gets popped with some investigation or other. We all get over it after a while.

    Just the other day I caught myself trying to figure out what all the fuss was about Hilary and her emails. Talk about a giant nothingburger. Lying to the feds about bad security, meh. Which is strange since I distinctly remember being mildly upset when the HRC was “exonerated” a few years ago.

    But I’m not mad. It’s just politics.

    I could not disagree more on the Obama DOJ/FBI/IC malfeasance.

    It was the genesis of the entire debacle, without this corrupt activity we get none of the ensuing clusterschtoopery.

    It was unprecedented in the abuse of our nations top law enforcement agencies for the political advantage of the incumbent party over the other party.

    As far as the HRC,  the issue was never about the Federal statutes we know she violated, but rather why would this woman, about to run for the highest office in government, risk it all by going to such extremes to destroy her e-mail communications and devices.  Logic dictates whatever was in the e-mails was so damning that whatever the repercussions for destroying the e-mails was worth it.

    The reason the focus was on her illegal server, the illegal dissemination of classified information, and destroying evidence was because these were all in fact violations of Federal statute which she in fact was guilty of having committed.

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  7. Ed G. Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: But is it true, as JVL claims, that the “symmetry here is perfect?”

    No. Not even remotely. How can otherwise intelligent people allow Trump to wad their panties so thoroughly for them? (Sorry for the very unattractive image)

    Well, you know, when you’re a rich celebrity I hear they just let you do it.

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  8. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Bulwark appears to be driving their train wreck of a magazine from irrelevance to inanity.

    They wanted to create a new political movement and all they got is a very exclusive members only coffee clutch.

    The Bulwark has 500 contributors like me who help fund the effort, and chipped in without being asked. Their daily traffic for the podcast and down of articles is increasing. As I have said, The Bulwark is second only to Ricochet.

    There is another aspect that must be mentioned. My parents divorced when I was in college. And I love both of my parents. I love both Ricochet and The Bulwark. The folks at The Bulwark have never attacked Ricochet. But some folks at Ricochet will attack The Bulwark. This feels not unlike my sainted mother saying negative stuff about my father; I don’t like it. I want to be able to love both of my parents, and I want to be able to love both Ricochet and The Bulwark.

    My point is Bulwark is free to say whatever they feel is the right thing to say.

    But at some point as you try to start your parade you may want to take a look back and take notice that only a scant few are following along.   From there Bulwark may want to do some introspection and alter their tactics.

    As of now Bulwark has garnered a very niche market, which in politics will garner you irrelevance.

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  9. Ed G. Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    [….] partisans gonna partisan. And I do think this whole nonsense about Trump and Russia is just an exercise in partisan politics.

    I have zero doubt, zero! that if Trump were some basic Dem, 99.9% of the people yammering about presidential harassment and exoneration or whatever would be undistinguishable from the Maddows, Boots and liberals generally.

    [….]

    Just the other day I caught myself trying to figure out what all the fuss was about Hilary and her emails. Talk about a giant nothingburger. Lying to the feds about bad security, meh. Which is strange since I distinctly remember being mildly upset when the HRC was “exonerated” a few years ago.

    But I’m not mad. It’s just politics.

    I could not disagree more on the Obama DOJ/FBI/IC malfeasance.

    It was the genesis of the entire debacle, without this corrupt activity we get none of the ensuing clusterschtoopery.

    It was unprecedented in the abuse of our nations top law enforcement agencies for the political advantage of the incumbent party over the other party.

    As far as the HRC, the issue was never about the Federal statutes we know she violated, but rather why would this woman about to run for the highest office in government risk it all by going to such extremes to destroy her e-mail communications and devices. Logic dictates whatever was in the e-mails was so damning that whatever the repercussions for destroying the e-mails was worth it.

    The reason the focus was on her illegal server, the illegal dissemination of classified information, and destroying evidence was because these were all in fact violations of Federal statute which she in fact was guilty of having committed.

    I was going to respond to some of the algorithmic delusion running around this thread, but screw that. Better to add to what Jack and Edison are saying.

    I wouldn’t have been mad about any of this either – IF they had dropped it after the election. Things are said during campaigns and then we move on. Except they didn’t move on. As in the great scene from the Bronx Tale: “now you’s can’t leave”. Now it has to be hashed out. The HRC infractions I suspect this was all designed to cover up; the weaponization of the federal government against a political opponent; the fake news; and HRC’S known “matter of historical record” collusion with foreign agents including Russian ones in order to influence the election. Either this is treason for all or its not treason at all. I always said it’s not treason or even much of a big deal, but if a meeting where nothing happened and a funny campaign joke are amounting to treason then HRC is the h-bomb to Trump’s grenade and hers is a much bigger threat.

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  10. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    Henry, it’s your call, but I don’t think that giving the Bulwark folks greater exposure and publicity is a good tactic for dealing with them. As I suggested when they opened, everyone writing for the Bulwark should be ostracized and ignored.

    This is my take as well. Every time I see Yet Another Thread about the Bulwank, or Yet Another Link to a Bulwank article, I think that all we’ve done is given them free press.

    The Bulwank features the worst of the Collusion-Truthers, and post-Mueller, they show no signs of coming to their senses.

    Ironically, for a site that claimed it was going to call out the White House grifters, they have proven to be nothing but a collusion-grifter aggregator.

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  11. Jager Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I don’t have an issue with JVL. Both Trump and Smollett are liars. Trump his whole life long. Smollett with one issue which terribly harmed the City of Chicago’s reputation and cost hundreds of man hours which the $10,000 bail doesn’t come close to addressing. JVL saw two liars, and wrote about the coincidence.

    The Comparison fails pretty badly on any closer examination. Trump had years of investigation, documents, people indicted on process crimes in an effort to get information. It found nothing conclusive. 

    Smollett paid 2 guys by check to fake an attack. The 2 guys admitted to the crime. They figured out where the guys bought their disguises.

    AG Barr says no charges. Muller, his team and the FBI are quite.

    Illinois State Attorney says no charges for Smollett and the Chicago Police Department and Mayor loss there minds, leak documents and demand answers. 

    How the people who did the investigation have reacted to the lack of charges tells you something is different.  

     

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  12. Gary Robbins Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    The problem with making your mission statement damning Trump and annoying his supporters is some weeks Trump doesn’t do anything that makes a very ripe target, and you end up grasping at straws. That’s the problem the 24/7/365 news channels and online outlets who’ve made attacking Trump the driving passion of their existence also have run into. Combined with immediate gratification syndrome, it means if whatever they’re attacking Trump on today doesn’t show signs of going viral within 48-72 hours, they find something else to obsess about, whether it’s real or imagined.

    ***

    Does Last think Robert Mueller and Kim Foxx did the same thing? Does he think Trump’s as guilty as Jussie Smollett? I’d certainly hope for his own personal sanity he doesn’t, but that’s by inference the analogy he’s seemingly making here, because he’s irked that the Russia-collusion story is fake (and in this one, Jonah Goldberg on his podcast said the same thing basically that I wrote last week — if Trump had won the biggest upset election in U.S. history with Vladamir Putin’s help, he never would have had the self control not to tell the world what he did for almost 2 1/2 years. If Trump’s not giving the Bulwark any good material this week, they just need to find something else to write about for a while).

    I think that both Trump and Smollett are liars. Smollett’s single lie was much worse. But Trump has a lifetime of lying and has taken over a political party in service of his ego.

    The analogy wouldn’t be between Robert Mueller and Kim Foxx. Mueller is an investigator, and Foxx is the prosecutor. Mueller is parallel to the Chicago Chief of Police. AG Barr is parallel to SA Foxx.

    Which is why is was a lazy, knuckleheaded analogy on the part of Last. Along with the fact that Foxx’s action started falling apart from the moment of the ruling.

    With all respect, JVL did not make the analogy between Mueller and Foxx, the Commentor did.  Mueller did his job, Barr may or may not have done his, Foxx certainly did not do hers. 

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Bulwark appears to be driving their train wreck of a magazine from irrelevance to inanity.

    They wanted to create a new political movement and all they got is a very exclusive members only coffee clutch.

    The Bulwark has 500 contributors like me who help fund the effort, and chipped in without being asked. Their daily traffic for the podcast and down of articles is increasing. As I have said, The Bulwark is second only to Ricochet.

    There is another aspect that must be mentioned. My parents divorced when I was in college. And I love both of my parents. I love both Ricochet and The Bulwark. The folks at The Bulwark have never attacked Ricochet. But some folks at Ricochet will attack The Bulwark. This feels not unlike my sainted mother saying negative stuff about my father; I don’t like it. I want to be able to love both of my parents, and I want to be able to love both Ricochet and The Bulwark.

    My point is Bulwark is free to say whatever they feel is the right thing to say.

    But at some point as you try to start your parade you may want to take a look back and take notice that only a scant few are following along. From there Bulwark may want to do some introspection and alter their tactics.

    As of now Bulwark has garnered a very niche market, which in politics will garner you irrelevance.

    While the Weekly Standard never grew to the level of National Review, it was a strong and vital voice on the Right.  Likewise, while The Bulwark may not be your cup of tea, it is growing too, and has established itself as a vital voice on the Right, and I am one of the 500+ contributors who, without being asked, spontaneously stated sending The Bulwark money.

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  14. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    My dad always said “Don’t throw good money after bad.”

     

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  15. Gary Robbins Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    [….] partisans gonna partisan. And I do think this whole nonsense about Trump and Russia is just an exercise in partisan politics.

    I have zero doubt, zero! that if Trump were some basic Dem, 99.9% of the people yammering about presidential harassment and exoneration or whatever would be undistinguishable from the Maddows, Boots and liberals generally.

    [….]

    Just the other day I caught myself trying to figure out what all the fuss was about Hilary and her emails. Talk about a giant nothingburger. Lying to the feds about bad security, meh. Which is strange since I distinctly remember being mildly upset when the HRC was “exonerated” a few years ago.

    But I’m not mad. It’s just politics.

    I could not disagree more on the Obama DOJ/FBI/IC malfeasance.

    It was the genesis of the entire debacle, without this corrupt activity we get none of the ensuing clusterschtoopery.

    It was unprecedented in the abuse of our nations top law enforcement agencies for the political advantage of the incumbent party over the other party.

    As far as the HRC, the issue was never about the Federal statutes we know she violated, but rather why would this woman about to run for the highest office in government risk it all by going to such extremes to destroy her e-mail communications and devices. Logic dictates whatever was in the e-mails was so damning that whatever the repercussions for destroying the e-mails was worth it.

    The reason the focus was on her illegal server, the illegal dissemination of classified information, and destroying evidence was because these were all in fact violations of Federal statute which she in fact was guilty of having committed.

    I was going to respond to some of the algorithmic delusion running around thus thread, but screw that. Better to add to what Jack and Edison are saying.

    I wouldn’t have been mad either – IF they had dropped it after the election. Things are said during campaigns and then we move on. Except they didn’t move on. As in the Bronx Tale: “now you’s can’t leave”. Now it has to be hashed out. The HRC infractions I suspect this was all designed to cover up; the weaponization of the federal government against a political opponent;the fake news; and last HRC’S and known collusion with foreign agents including Russian ones in order to influence the election. Either this is treason for all or its not treason at all. I always said it’s not treason, but if a meeting where nothing happened and a funny campaign joke are amounting to treason then HRC is the h-bomb to Trump’s grenade and hers is a much bigger threat.

    This is not a game.  Trump and his band of victimly populists have invaded the House of Reagan, and taken it over.  Trump has ruled by tweet, silencing Senators like Corker or Flake and forcing politicians like Ryan and McConnell to submit to him.  

    Reagan led by good humor and an appeal to the best in us.  Trump leads by force, attack and denigration.  Reagan appreciated our support; Trump demands it.

    Taking back the House of Reagan is the highest priority, even more important than the 2020 General Election.

    Let me put it this way.  Was it wrong for Reagan to challenge Ford in 1976?  And was it wrong for Republicans to force Nixon to retire in 1974.  I think the answer to both questions is “no.”  Yes, we Had to put up with one term of Carter, after the 1976 election, but then we then had three glorious terms under Reagan and his Vice President in 1980, 1984, and 1988.

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  16. Jager Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump and his band of victimly populists have invaded the House of Reagan, and taken it over. Trump has ruled by tweet, silencing Senators like Corker or Flake and forcing politicians like Ryan and McConnell to submit to him.

    Who are the “vivtimly populists”? 

    Trump did not silence Flake, Flake is the guy I heard the most from, it is just very few people were listening to Flake. 

    Trump could not force Ryan or McConnell to do anything. If they had strong problems with Trumps actions, they could have stood up to Trump at any time. 

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  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    Henry, it’s your call, but I don’t think that giving the Bulwark folks greater exposure and publicity is a good tactic for dealing with them. As I suggested when they opened, everyone writing for the Bulwark should be ostracized and ignored.

    This is my take as well. Every time I see Yet Another Thread about the Bulwank, or Yet Another Link to a Bulwank article, I think that all we’ve done is given them free press.

    The Bulwank features the worst of the Collusion-Truthers, and post-Mueller, they show no signs of coming to their senses.

    Ironically, for a site that claimed it was going to call out the White House grifters, they have proven to be nothing but a collusion-grifter aggregator.

    I didn’t file this Post, I only commented on it to set the record straight.

    I didn’t behave in the suspicious manner outlined in Comment #7, Trump did.

    If you don’t like The Bulwark, don’t read it or listen to its daily Podcast, whose speaker, Charlie Sykes, was featured at Ricochet for a long term.  But if you are going to attack The Bulwark, expect a reaction.

     

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    “It’s not a theory but a matter of historical record that Vladimir Putin’s Russia hacked American emails and used them to help elect Trump to the presidency.

    You keep posting this, but nobody knows if Russia did it. 

    They definitely got the United States Secretary of State’s emails, though.

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Peddling crazy [Redacted] is what neocons like Kristol et al have done their entire careers.

    The uneven enforcement of profanity rules at this place is amusing. 

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I like Bill Kristol.

    I highly doubt that your political views overlap with his very much.

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  21. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Both Trump and Smollett lied and are liars. Smollett’s one lie is much worse than any of Trump’s

    So this pretty much undermines your point that the comparison was “perfect”. 

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  22. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    People are still talking about the mueller report?

    Just wait until it is published!

    Gary, do you think Trump colluded with Russia?

    • #52
  23. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    But some folks at Ricochet will attack The Bulwark.

    IMO, they deserve to be discussed. 

    For what it’s worth, I think Jonah Goldberg’s website is going to be pretty constructive if the reporting reflects his libertarian sensibilities. Steven Hayes always made sense to me on the Fox report.

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  24. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Taking back the House of Reagan is the highest priority, even more important than the 2020 General Election.

    So 90% of GOP voters are wrong, and you are part of the 10% who are right. 

    And, that 10% is going to restore the party to greatness just as soon as Trump is gone? I cannot speak for anyone but me, but I can say that I will never vote for or support any party with the likes of you running it. 

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump and his band of victimly populists have invaded the House of Reagan, and taken it over.

    Why did that happen? 

    Your view of the state of the world is just so different from mine. 

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  26. Rodin Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I frankly don’t think that Trump is innocent, just that he isn’t guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on the issue of collusion.

    @garyrobbins, I am a little surprised with this comment. Now if you said that you are withholding judgement until more than the Barr summary is released that would be fine. But the Barr summary pointed out that not only was their no collusion but that attempts by the Russians to offer assistance were rebuffed. If Barr is lying or grossly mischaracterizing that is one thing, but if true, that statement underscores why there was a finding of no conspiracy, not just insufficient evidence. Be fair, @garyrobbins.

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  27. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I frankly don’t think that Trump is innocent, just that he isn’t guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on the issue of collusion.

    @garyrobbins, I am a little surprised with this comment. Now if you said that you are withholding judgement until more than the Barr summary is released that would be fine. But the Barr summary pointed out that no only was their no collusion but that attempts by theRussians to offer assistance were rebuffed. If Barr is lying or grossly mischaracterizing that is one thing, but if true, that statement underscores why there was a finding of no conspiracy, not just insufficient evidence. Be fair, @garyrobbins.

    I think it is a good thing we live with the rule of law and not the rule of what people think. 

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  28. WI Con Member
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    Good grief, Regan is dead! The mention of his name is not some magical incantation that reinforces or proves your assertions. You worship Reagan and voted for him. I liked Reagan a great deal and voted for him, so therefore agree with what Bill Kristol and Charlie Sykes assert?

    Charlie Sykes was on Milwaukee radio for decades. He got smoked in the ratings here (from an electorate not warm to Trump’s style). Listeners simply stopped tuning in – hectoring is apparently poison for ratings You’d think after the Weekly Standard and the tanking of Sykes radio career, they’d figure it out or not double down on failure. 

    Will be amusing to see how long the MSM and their Leftist Masters let them lick their hand/maybe get a treat.

     

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  29. Jager Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    Henry, it’s your call, but I don’t think that giving the Bulwark folks greater exposure and publicity is a good tactic for dealing with them. As I suggested when they opened, everyone writing for the Bulwark should be ostracized and ignored.

    This is my take as well. Every time I see Yet Another Thread about the Bulwank, or Yet Another Link to a Bulwank article, I think that all we’ve done is given them free press.

    The Bulwank features the worst of the Collusion-Truthers, and post-Mueller, they show no signs of coming to their senses.

    Ironically, for a site that claimed it was going to call out the White House grifters, they have proven to be nothing but a collusion-grifter aggregator.

    I didn’t file this Post, I only commented on it to set the record straight.

    I didn’t behave in the suspicious manner outlined in Comment #7, Trump did.

    If you don’t like The Bulwark, don’t read it or listen to its daily Podcast, whose speaker, Charlie Sykes, was featured at Ricochet for a long term. But if you are going to attack The Bulwark, expect a reaction.

     

    Fine, if you are going to quote or defend the Bulwark you should expect a reaction as well. Garbage insults to conservatives from the so-called right. 
    https://thebulwark.com/the-age-of-trumpshevism/

    Today they have a fine post up discussing the Trumpshevic (a combination of Trump and Blushevic) co-religonists. With fun insulting comments like on immigration you are “dey tuk er jerbz” (translates to: they took our jobs) and “ayyymnasty” (amnesty). 

    If this is what the Party of Reagan supports then the Party of Reagan is dead. IF this is a principled argument, then these people never actually had any principles what so ever. 

    So yeah, I read things on The Bulwark. It is a useful reminder that a portion of the right hates me and claims they are the principled, responsible remenant of the Conservative movement. I do this for the same reason I read the MSM sites and leftist sites. It is useful to see what others are saying. When it is name calling like the above article, it does not convince, it proves I am on the right side. 

    An intelligent and skilled writer who really cared about his/her subject could have written this article without insults. Intelligent and skilled just does not describe a lot of what the Bullwark produces. 

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  30. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Reagan didn’t change the trajectory of the long march to socialism and fascism as much as people think. He did what he could. The other thing is stop using worn out templates to look at the world today. it’s not going to do you any good.

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