Quote of the Day – The purpose of propaganda

 

In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to. – Theodore Dalrymple

You can replace the word communist with progressive and it explains a lot of the ridiculousness being spouted today: gender fluidity, the patriarchy, the joys of socialism. Whatever the current cause de jour for the woke folk, it has to be ridiculous on its face, yet asserted with total sincerity. It is not enough to have you state the ridiculous is true. You must believe what you state. Otherwise they will devour you the way the demons devoured Wormwood at the end of the Screwtape Letters.

It will not stop, either. As Theodore Dalrymple so cogently observes, the object is to force you to betray your core beliefs and make you powerless to resist.

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  1. danok1 Member
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    The good doctor seems to be channeling Alexander Solzhenitsyn:

    When violence intrudes into peaceful life, its face glows with self-confidence, as if it were carrying a banner and shouting: “I am violence. Run away, make way for me—I will crush you.” But violence quickly grows old. And it has lost confidence in itself, and in order to maintain a respectable face it summons falsehood as its ally—since violence lays its ponderous paw not every day and not on every shoulder. It demands from us only obedience to lies and daily participation in lies—all loyalty lies in that.

    And the simplest and most accessible key to our self-neglected liberation lies right here: Personal non-participation in lies. Though lies conceal everything, though lies embrace everything, but not with any help from me.

    This opens a breach in the imaginary encirclement caused by our inaction. It is the easiest thing to do for us, but the most devastating for the lies. Because when people renounce lies it simply cuts short their existence. Like an infection, they can exist only in a living organism.

    We do not exhort ourselves. We have not sufficiently matured to march into the squares and shout the truth our loud or to express aloud what we think. It’s not necessary.

    It’s dangerous. But let us refuse to say that which we do not think.

    Live Not by Lies“…Read the whole piece.

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  2. Seawriter Contributor
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    I hang my head in shame. Vectorman used this quote last year. Quote of the Day: Political Correctness from February 2018.

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  3. Vectorman Inactive
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    Seawriter: It will not stop, either. As Theodore Dalrymple so cogently observes, the object is to force you to betray your core beliefs and make you powerless to resist.

    When President Reagan won a second term, we hoped that the many aspects of Orwell’s classic novel 1984 would fall by the wayside. By 1987 traditional Leninism was finished, and even Francis Fukuyama wrote The End of History in 1989. But with the 8 years of Obama, it continues today.


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  4. Vectorman Inactive
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    I hang my head in shame. Vectorman used this quote last year. Quote of the Day: Political Correctness from February 2018.

    No need for shame. I also copied from the same 2018 post:

    Vectorman (View Comment):
    When President Reagan won a second term, we hoped that the many aspects of Orwell’s classic novel 1984 would fall by the wayside. By 1987 traditional Leninism was finished, and even Francis Fukuyama wrote The End of History in 1989. But with the 8 years of Obama, it continues today.

    The important thing for me was learning about Theodore Dalrymple.

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  5. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    “To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself.”

    Dalrymple must really hate the advertising industry.

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  6. Rodin Member
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    No shame. We need to be persistently and constantly reminded of this. It explains that the seeming incoherence of the progressive message is intentional as opposed to evidence that it is not to be believed. Belief in the specific statement is irrelevant. Fealty to the progressive agenda is paramount. Here is how progressivism and Islamism unite: submission. They make common cause to enforce submission everywhere, and then they will battle for the top level control. Battling each other now distracts from their mission to enforce  submission.

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  7. Al French, sad sack Moderator
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    Vectorman (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    I hang my head in shame. Vectorman used this quote last year. Quote of the Day: Political Correctness from February 2018.

    No need for shame. I also copied from the same 2018 post:

    Vectorman (View Comment):
    When President Reagan won a second term, we hoped that the many aspects of Orwell’s classic novel 1984 would fall by the wayside. By 1987 traditional Leninism was finished, and even Francis Fukuyama wrote The End of History in 1989. But with the 8 years of Obama, it continues today.

    The important thing for me was learning about Theodore Dalrymple.

    Dalrymple is a gem. I read everything I see by him, most frequently at City Journal.

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  8. Vectorman Inactive
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    Rodin (View Comment):
    Here is how progressivism and Islamism unite: submission. They make common cause to enforce submission everywhere, and then they will battle for the top level control. Battling each other now distracts from their mission to enforce submission.

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  9. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher
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    The quote conveys a similar sentiment to that of Vaclav Havel in The Power of the Powerless (1978).  The more absurd the concept or slogan you can get someone to accede to, the more powerful it makes those in power.

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  10. Arizona Patriot Member
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    I agree.  I think it also explains a lot about the falsehoods spouted on the homosexuality issue, over the past 20 years or so.

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  11. Vectorman Inactive
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    I agree. I think it also explains a lot about the falsehoods spouted on the homosexuality issue, over the past 20 years or so.

    It goes back much longer, to Alfred Kinsey in 1947. His statistical methods were terrible:

    that he over-represented prisoners and prostitutes, classified some single people as “married”, and that he included a disproportionate number of homosexual men, which may have distorted his studies.

    Also:

    But 26% (1,400) of Kinsey’s alleged 5,300 white male subjects were already “sex offenders.” As far as the data can be established, an additional 25% were incarcerated prisoners; some numbers were big city “pimps,” “hold-up men,” “thieves;” roughly 4% were male prostitutes as well as sundry other criminals; and some hundreds of homosexual activists at various “gay bars” and other haunts from coast to coast.

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  12. Shauna Hunt Inactive
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    Al French, sad sack (View Comment):
    Dalrymple is a gem. I read everything I see by him, most frequently at City Journal.

    So do I!

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  13. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge
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    Yes, Seawriter,  it is true that in today’s era, you can easily replace the term communist with the term progressive, and the quote still applies.

    Heinlein did a nice riff on this theme:

    “Secrecy is the keystone to all tyranny.

    “Not force, but secrecy and censorship. When any government or church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, “This you may not read, this you must not know,” the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man who has been hoodwinked in this fashion; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, whose mind is free. No, not the rack nor the atomic bomb, not anything. You can’t conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.”
    – Robert A. Heinlein

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  14. JosePluma Thatcher
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    I hang my head in shame. Vectorman used this quote last year. Quote of the Day: Political Correctness from February 2018.

    A quote so nice, they did it twice.

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  15. Old Bathos Moderator
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    There are 124 sexual identities.

    There are more hurricanes than ever before.

    This is the most racist country and on earth and it is getting worse.

    On U.S. college campuses a woman is raped every 3.7 minutes.

    Most pacific islands and coastal cities will be under water by 2055.

    We have always been at war with EastAsia.

     

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  16. Seawriter Contributor
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Most pacific islands and coastal cities will be under water by 2055.

    Of course they will be. Climate change experts told us in 2000 that they would be under water by 2012.That means they already are by now and I only image my house in League City is not on the Gulf of Mexico coast.

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  17. Old Bathos Moderator
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Most pacific islands and coastal cities will be under water by 2055.

    Of course they will be. Climate change experts told us in 2000 that they would be under water by 2012.That means they already are by now and I only image my house in League City is not on the Gulf of Mexico coast.

    That’s why you should employ the Lex Luthor real estate method and buy up all the cheap inland areas adjacent to the existing coast but currently 50 feet or more above sea level .

    And as for warming, it’s not to late to get in on the ground floor on my Baffin Bay tropical resort project.  Cha-ching!

     

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  18. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    There are 124 sexual identities.

    There are more hurricanes than ever before.

    This is the most racist country and on earth and it is getting worse.

    On U.S. college campuses a woman is raped every 3.7 minutes.

    Most pacific islands and coastal cities will be under water by 2055.

    We have always been at war with EastAsia.

     

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  19. Misthiocracy secretly Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Most pacific islands and coastal cities will be under water by 2055.

    Of course they will be. Climate change experts told us in 2000 that they would be under water by 2012.That means they already are by now and I only image my house in League City is not on the Gulf of Mexico coast.

    That’s why you should employ the Lex Luthor real estate method and buy up all the cheap inland areas adjacent to the existing coast but currently 50 feet or more above sea level .

    And as for warming, it’s not to late to get in on the ground floor on my Baffin Bay tropical resort project. Cha-ching!

     

    Lex Luther was clearly a genocidal homophobe.  After all, it’s a fair bet that if you compiled a heat map of LGBTQ+ population density you’d find that they’re concentrated along the coasts.

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