Robert Mueller Delivers Report to Attorney General

 

According to news reports, Robert Mueller has delivered a report to Attorney General Bill Barr. Fox News:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted to Attorney General Bill Barr his long-awaited report on the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential race and possible collusion with Trump associates — marking the end of the politically explosive probe and the beginning of a new battle over its contents and implications. Mueller is “not recommending any further indictments,” a senior DOJ official told Fox News.

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  1. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    There is going to be a thrown bone, we just have to wait to find out what it is.

    Yes, that’s my bet. I’m guessing it will involve “interactions” between the Trump campaign and Wikileaks and/or Russian contacts a la the infamous Trump Tower meeting. This is not to say these will prove anything or be particularly meaningful, but Mueller’s team–out of self-justification –will probably find someway to make something sound nefarious in the absence of finding anything criminal.

    There’s a complication using the Trump Tower meeting as the thrown bone. The head of Fusion GPS met with the Russian woman before and after the TT meeting, as I recall. It was a set-up. And if it weren’t for MSM water-carriers, it would be known as a very clumsy one. 

     

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  2. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    There is going to be a thrown bone, we just have to wait to find out what it is.

    Yes, that’s my bet. I’m guessing it will involve “interactions” between the Trump campaign and Wikileaks and/or Russian contacts a la the infamous Trump Tower meeting. This is not to say these will prove anything or be particularly meaningful, but Mueller’s team–out of self-justification –will probably find someway to make something sound nefarious in the absence of finding anything criminal.

    There’s a complication using the Trump Tower meeting as the thrown bone. The head of Fusion GPS met with the Russian woman before and after the TT meeting, as I recall. It was a set-up. And if it weren’t for MSM water-carriers, it would be known as a very clumsy one.

    No problem – you just ignore the GPS Fusion connection!  It’s worked so far.

     

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  3. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that wants to enact the crazy “Green New Deal.”

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that claims Jews are hypnotizing the world.

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party of abortion at any time for any reason up to — and even after — the moment of birth.

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

     

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  4. Arizona Patriot Member
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    You know, 123 comments is an awful lot, for a post that merely informs us that the Mueller report was delivered to the AG, without any information about the contents of the report.

    You’d think that in 123 comments, we could expect LaRoche to have posted at least one picture of some Texas cheerleaders.

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  5. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Chris Wallace is in deep denial. Hack.

    He is his father’s son.

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  6. Western Chauvinist Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that wants to enact the crazy “Green New Deal.”

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that claims Jews are hypnotizing the world.

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party of abortion at any time for any reason up to — and even after — the moment of birth.

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    And speaking of institutional checks — what about checks on the FBI, DOJ, Secretary Clinton, Lois Lerner at IRS, Barack Obama’s wing man, Eric Holder, and wing woman, Loretta Lynch?? Seriously, if you’re not outraged by the injustices perpetrated by Obama-era officials, I question your character.

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  7. Gary Robbins Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that wants to enact the crazy “Green New Deal.”

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that claims Jews are hypnotizing the world.

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party of abortion at any time for any reason up to — and even after — the moment of birth.

    I don’t support that.

    You voted for it.

    I’ve heard that jibe before.  On Facebook, I was told that since I had voted for Evan McMullin and not Hillary, “You voted for Trump!”   I have systemically unfriended people who had told me that I had voted for Trump because I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Hillary.

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  8. Weeping Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that wants to enact the crazy “Green New Deal.”

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party that claims Jews are hypnotizing the world.

    Tell us more about how your principles required you to vote for the party of abortion at any time for any reason up to — and even after — the moment of birth.

    I’m interesting in knowing how you reconcile these things while still claiming to be a “Reagan Republican.”

     

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they? 

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  9. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

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  10. Gary Robbins Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support.  The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus.  See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    All I can say is that the Democrats’ leap since the election towards full-on socialism, anti-Semitism, and abortion available up until the mother gives birth has certainly taken me by surprise. Sure, I knew that there were people in the party who advocated those positions; but I didn’t expect the (seemingly) entire party to lurch (at the moment, anyway) that direction. So yes, I think you can say that many who voted for them didn’t know what they were voting for when they put the Democrats in power. I think they simply expected them to give Trump more grief.

    (I could be wrong about that, of course. Despite my participation here, I don’t follow politics all that closely in my 3D life, so I could have easily missed out on some pretty obvious signs that they would lunge for the left like they have. But I don’t think I did.)

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  12. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support. The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus. See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

    You’ve just confirmed what I’ve long suspected about Nevers and liberals who still vote for Democrats. You don’t know what we’re up against with the Left — the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means people on the planet. You don’t know the enemy. 

    I repeat this to the point of obnoxiousness — at the height of the Soviet Union, only 10% of the population belonged to the Communist Party. It doesn’t take a majority to end up in tyranny. It only takes enough naive people to put the most ruthless in power to get there.

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support. The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus. See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

    You’ve just confirmed what I’ve long suspected about Nevers and liberals who still vote for Democrats. You don’t know what we’re up against with the Left — the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means people on the planet. You don’t know the enemy.

    Do you realize that many liberals see Republicans, especially during the time of Trump, to be the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the means, dishonest, planet killers, and racists on the planet.

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  14. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support. The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus. See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

    You’ve just confirmed what I’ve long suspected about Nevers and liberals who still vote for Democrats. You don’t know what we’re up against with the Left — the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means people on the planet. You don’t know the enemy.

    Do you realize that many liberals see Republicans, especially during the time of Trump, to be the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the means, dishonest, planet killers, and racists on the planet.

    Yes, as I said, liberals are naive. They don’t realize Democrat lefties (who predominate in the party pretty much since Joe Lieberman retired/was forced out) are their enemy, too. 

    These false equivalencies are tiresome. But go ahead. Keep repeating Democrat talking points. It’s a free(er) country (with Trump as president). 

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  15. Ed G. Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Can’t disagree with this.

    This will be the end of the Republican Party, and will lead to the loss of the Senate, more Governors, more House members and maybe another 400 legislators.

    Explain.

    We lost the House of Representatives in 2018. We lost 7 governorship’s. We have lost 400 legislators in Trump’s first two years.

    If Ned Ryun follows through on his tweet, that is what will happen. Good to know. I never would’ve thought of that.

    In 2016, we won the gross House of Representatives vote 49.1% to 48.0% for a 1.1% advantage.

    In 2018, we lost the gross House of Representatives vote 53.4% to 44.8% for a 8.6% deficit. The 2018 election was a referendum on Trump. We lost women, the educated, the young and the suburbs.

    This was a 9.7% swing between 2016 and 2018! We cannot survive as a party with Trump as our leader.

    I see. Better to bring back Obama as a leader because we won historic victories during that time.

    I’d rather debunk the Trump is a racist traitor charges and see how that affects our chances.

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  16. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support. The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus. See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

    You’ve just confirmed what I’ve long suspected about Nevers and liberals who still vote for Democrats. You don’t know what we’re up against with the Left — the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means people on the planet. You don’t know the enemy.

    Do you realize that many liberals see Republicans, especially during the time of Trump, to be the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the means, dishonest, planet killers, and racists on the planet.

    And Reagan was going to blow up the planet by starting World War III at 12:02 p.m. on 1/20/81 if he was elected, as soon as he took his hand off the Bible Chief Justice Burger was holding. The most rabidly partisan Democrats brought the crazy 39 years ago — there just weren’t as many media outlets, let alone social media sites, for the volume to be as loud as it is today.

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  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support. The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus. See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

    You’ve just confirmed what I’ve long suspected about Nevers and liberals who still vote for Democrats. You don’t know what we’re up against with the Left — the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means people on the planet. You don’t know the enemy.

    Do you realize that many liberals see Republicans, especially during the time of Trump, to be the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the means, dishonest, planet killers, and racists on the planet.

    Yes, as I said, liberals are naive. They don’t realize Democrat lefties (who predominate in the party pretty much since Joe Lieberman retired/was forced out) are their enemy, too.

    These false equivalencies are tiresome. But go ahead. Keep repeating Democrat talking points. 

    I don’t believe that conservatives like you and me are ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means, dishonest planet killers and racists.  I am just saying that many liberals believe that.  

    My point is that both parties see the worst of each other, and that often they have the same viewpoints about each other.  This feels pretty doggone toxic to me.

     

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  18. Gary Robbins Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Can’t disagree with this.

    This will be the end of the Republican Party, and will lead to the loss of the Senate, more Governors, more House members and maybe another 400 legislators.

    Explain.

    We lost the House of Representatives in 2018. We lost 7 governorship’s. We have lost 400 legislators in Trump’s first two years.

    If Ned Ryun follows through on his tweet, that is what will happen. Good to know. I never would’ve thought of that.

    In 2016, we won the gross House of Representatives vote 49.1% to 48.0% for a 1.1% advantage.

    In 2018, we lost the gross House of Representatives vote 53.4% to 44.8% for a 8.6% deficit. The 2018 election was a referendum on Trump. We lost women, the educated, the young and the suburbs.

    This was a 9.7% swing between 2016 and 2018! We cannot survive as a party with Trump as our leader.

    I see. Better to bring back Obama as a leader because we won historic victories during that time.

    No.  I am suggesting that Trump is a massive albatross around our necks.

    I’d rather debunk the Trump is a racist traitor charges and see how that affects our chances.

    What if there is an element of truth about Trump being a racialist, and the whiff of kompromat?  That would make it much harder to debunk.

     

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  19. Gary Robbins Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support. The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus. See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

    You’ve just confirmed what I’ve long suspected about Nevers and liberals who still vote for Democrats. You don’t know what we’re up against with the Left — the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means people on the planet. You don’t know the enemy.

    Do you realize that many liberals see Republicans, especially during the time of Trump, to be the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the means, dishonest, planet killers, and racists on the planet.

    And Reagan was going to blow up the planet by starting World War III at 12:02 p.m. on 1/20/81 if he was elected, as soon as he took his hand off the Bible Chief Justice Burger was holding. The most rabidly partisan Democrats brought the crazy 39 years ago — there just weren’t as many media outlets, let alone social media sites, for the volume to be as loud as it is today.

    I remember worrying about Reagan before his election.

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  20. Jon1979 Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    To be fair to Gary, these things weren’t being advocated by any Democrats during the last election; were they?

    Democrats didn’t just suddenly go crazy in the last two years either. If you didn’t like Donald Trump, you always have the choice of abstaining. But no one can say they didn’t know what they were voting for when they put Democrats in power.

    The Green New Deal, the Anti-Semitism, and abortion until birth are all part of the most extreme left, and do not enjoy anything near to majority support. The 40 Dems who flipped seats are among the most conservative parts of the Democratic caucus. See Lamb, Brian (D-PA).

    You’ve just confirmed what I’ve long suspected about Nevers and liberals who still vote for Democrats. You don’t know what we’re up against with the Left — the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means people on the planet. You don’t know the enemy.

    Do you realize that many liberals see Republicans, especially during the time of Trump, to be the most ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the means, dishonest, planet killers, and racists on the planet.

    And Reagan was going to blow up the planet by starting World War III at 12:02 p.m. on 1/20/81 if he was elected, as soon as he took his hand off the Bible Chief Justice Burger was holding. The most rabidly partisan Democrats brought the crazy 39 years ago — there just weren’t as many media outlets, let alone social media sites, for the volume to be as loud as it is today.

    I remember worrying about Reagan before his election.

    NBC has buried the Jean Doumanian/Fall 1980 SNL episodes due to their all-around awfulness, but the pre-election political skits treated Reagan about the way the current SNL treats Trump today.

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  21. TBA Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Can’t disagree with this.

    This will be the end of the Republican Party, and will lead to the loss of the Senate, more Governors, more House members and maybe another 400 legislators.

    Explain.

    We lost the House of Representatives in 2018. We lost 7 governorship’s. We have lost 400 legislators in Trump’s first two years.

    If Ned Ryun follows through on his tweet, that is what will happen. Good to know. I never would’ve thought of that.

    In 2016, we won the gross House of Representatives vote 49.1% to 48.0% for a 1.1% advantage.

    In 2018, we lost the gross House of Representatives vote 53.4% to 44.8% for a 8.6% deficit. The 2018 election was a referendum on Trump. We lost women, the educated, the young and the suburbs.

    This was a 9.7% swing between 2016 and 2018! We cannot survive as a party with Trump as our leader.

    I see. Better to bring back Obama as a leader because we won historic victories during that time.

    No. I am suggesting that Trump is a massive albatross around our necks.

    I’d rather debunk the Trump is a racist traitor charges and see how that affects our chances.

    What if there is an element of truth about Trump being a racialist, and the whiff of kompromat? That would make it much harder to debunk.

    There is no purpose to debunking elements of truth or whiffs of this or that. Even the court of public opinion requires some substance. 

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  22. James Lileks Contributor
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I don’t believe that conservatives like you and me are ruthless, power-mad, self-justified (self-important), ends-justify-the-means, dishonest planet killers and racists. I am just saying that many liberals believe that.

    My point is that both parties see the worst of each other, and that often they have the same viewpoints about each other. This feels pretty doggone toxic to me.

    The question is which viewpoint is true. We can’t know what’s in someone’s heart. We can deduce where they stand on an issue by what they advocate, support, and in some cases give aid and comfort – but that last one is subject to contortions, depending on who’s reporting and how the quotes are edited.

    Which party has embraced an intersectional doctrine that categorizes one’s individual standing in society based on skin color?

    Which party has its presidential candidates falling over one another to disavow AIPAC?

    Which party is eager to extract property from one racial group to give it another?

    Which party wishes to sweep away the mechanisms of the Republic to transform us to a direct democracy – ends justifying the means, in other words?

    What the left has to say about the right contains no small amount of projection.

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  23. Saxonburg Member
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    Every local news report I have seen so far first states that the Mueller Report has been issued. The second sentence then states that 34 indictments have been handed down including 6 people related to the Trump campaign. None of the news reports placed the indictments in context. None.

    None stated that the majority of indictments were of Russians in Russia who remotely performed the 2016 equivalent of handing out pamphlets on street corners. None stated that the most serious of indictments were of actions that had nothing to do with Trump or the campaign.  None stated that the remaining indictments were of process crimes that exist only because of the investigation process.

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    Yes, because the Republicans in the House and Senate fully failed to provide an institutional check on Trump.

    This is so incredibly old. You keep making the same excuse, so I’ll keep asking the same question: What institutional check did you want House Republicans to provide?? What policies? I don’t think they have the authority to ban him from Twitter.

    For starters, how about voting for the resolution of disapproval on Trump’s declaration of emergency?

    You got your wish (which happened after the 2018 election). As they say, see you in court.

    Or rather, “See you in New Hampshire!”

    The law is on the president’s side and the Democrats are blocking the wall for strictly political reasons. 

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    My point is that both parties see the worst of each other, and that often they have the same viewpoints about each other. This feels pretty doggone toxic to me.

    I’m not going to get in a big argument about it, but I really think you have a very excessively idealistic view of the way things are now. 

    All of this centralized power and multiculturalism started getting dysfunctional in the 90s. The media fuels it.

    We are no longer in the system that the Founders set up. It tipped over in the 90s. 

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    the whiff of kompromat?

    I just cannot relate to this at all. 

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  27. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that Jonathon V. Last (“JVL”) has the most wise conclusion about the Mueller Report. He writes:

    “Two weeks after the public finally sees it, most of the people who dislike Trump will be arguing that the report is terrible for Trump. And most of the people who like Trump will be arguing that the report vindicates Trump.

    Sure, but the people who hate Trump will be lying and the people who like Trump will be telling the truth.

    No Max. To paraphrase a great judge that I appeared before, the people who hate Trump will believe that they are telling the truth, and the people who love Trump will believe that they are telling the truth. The real truth will likely be somewhere in between.

    The truth does not always lie somewhere in between. If a group of radical math students believe that 2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2, that doesn’t mean that one can balance his checkbook using that formulation.

    I was a math major before Law School. You would not believe how many people don’t add up their expenses accurately!

    Mine was computer science and math, but math and law? I can’t get my mind around that.

    I scored a perfect 800 on the math portion of the SAT, and was halfway through my 30 hour requirement for my math major after my first semester. That allowed me to pick up classes in whatever other areas I wanted to during my three years as an undergraduate, getting a minor in psychology, and graduating with Honors in Psychology. I had argued with my parents about every possible issue as a child, and Law was a natural for me. Also the Law School Admissions Test (LSAT) had a math section to it, helping me do well in it.

    But, if I had it to do over again, I would have majored in computer science. Life is full of different choices along the way.

    Is there any thread that doesn’t become Gary-focused?  Gary-centric?  Gary Gary, quite contrary, how do your opinions grow?

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  28. Instugator Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    Justice is a joke. We know that laws don’t apply to Democrats or their Deep State flunkies.

    That is why I always refer to it as The Department of inJustice.

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  29. RufusRJones Member
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    Here’s my idea to get a Republican sweep in 2020:

    How to end our national nightmare — probe Hillary Clinton again

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  30. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Saxonburg (View Comment):

    Every local news report I have seen so far first states that the Mueller Report has been issued. The second sentence then states that 34 indictments have been handed down including 6 people related to the Trump campaign. None of the news reports placed the indictments in context. None.

    None stated that the majority of indictments were of Russians in Russia who remotely performed the 2016 equivalent of handing out pamphlets on street corners. None stated that the most serious of indictments were of actions that had nothing to do with Trump or the campaign. None stated that the remaining indictments were of process crimes that exist only because of the investigation process.

    Journalists gonna journalism.

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