Robert Mueller Delivers Report to Attorney General

 

According to news reports, Robert Mueller has delivered a report to Attorney General Bill Barr. Fox News:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted to Attorney General Bill Barr his long-awaited report on the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential race and possible collusion with Trump associates — marking the end of the politically explosive probe and the beginning of a new battle over its contents and implications. Mueller is “not recommending any further indictments,” a senior DOJ official told Fox News.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Jim George (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I encourage everyone to calm down and to wait to read the doggone Mueller Report before spouting off.

    Also, I am leery of believing an anonymous DOJ official.

    @garyrobbins, at last, something we really agree on! I am at one with you that people should never opine on a document, report, or… a book…until they have read it thoroughly.

    Sincerely, Jim

    I see what you did there. ; )

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  2. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    @CliffordBrown

    Over/under on when the report itself leaks?

    Odds that all the investigative materials are already copied on portable media, or stashed on unofficial server space for DNC use though the 2020 campaign?

    If the latter, odds the Chinese and Russians already have Mueller’s team’s files?

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  3. GFHandle Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I am looking forward to reading the report to come to my own conclusions.

    I don’t think the public gets to see “the report.” Any McCarthy points out than Muller is just a line prosecutor. He gives it to Barr. Barr has to make sure that there are no methods and assets revealed. Since this WAS supposedly an Intelligence Investigation, there are bound to be some redactions. Then Congress will claim, wrongly, that they are entitled to see it raw. Eventually, though, something will leak and you can read THAT.

     

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  4. Ed G. Member
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    Hmmm, my copy of the talking points didn’t have the word “doggone” in it. Gary, did you get a different copy than me?

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  5. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge
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    just read that perhaps the “Russian Collusion” was propped up by Russia using left wing bots to then divide and disillusion Democrats when it was found out not to be true

    we’re through the looking glass

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  6. RufusRJones Member
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    Jerome Corsi. They threatened him with prison. Fox News just said it’s all bogus. No charges.

    ***edit***

    Jerome Corsi Lost his job with Alex Jones over this and Info Wars was investigated for offering him a severance. I’m pretty sure that’s all accurate.

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  7. Jim George Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I encourage everyone to calm down and to wait to read the doggone Mueller Report before spouting off.

    Also, I am leery of believing an anonymous DOJ official.

    @garyrobbins, at last, something we really agree on! I am at one with you that people should never opine on a document, report, or… a book…until they have read it thoroughly.

    Sincerely, Jim

    I see what you did there. ; )

    Thank you. I hope someone else did. :-) 

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  8. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Jerome Corsi. They threatened him with prison. Fox News just said it’s all bogus. No charges.

    The DOJ lawyer just said that she never, ever had a situation like this. You just indict them.

    Tucker Carlson’s comment was “it’s so Third World”.

    So many Republicans don’t care.

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  9. Mike "Lash" LaRoche Inactive
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    The Mueller Report is on sale at Amazon.

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  10. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    This is not about the “deep state” nor is it about any of the rest of what you have said. I think that JVL said it best: “There is literally nothing that Robert Mueller could present that would cause most Republicans to turn on Trump or most Democrats to decide that he is innocent.” I think that you are in the former group. I am in neither group; I want to read the doggone report for myself.

    Because you would trust a report from an incompetent, unethical apparatchik like Mueller (Comey’s BFF), which investigation was based on an unsubstantiated, bought-and-paid for by the Clinton campaign slander sheet, in collusion with foreign agents (Steele and his Russian associates), using unethical if not illegal means (unmasking, leaking, …) for the purpose of unseating or terminally damaging a duly elected president who you dislike.

    The (lack of) credibility of this report cannot be separated from the corruption of the people who produced it. Wake up!

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  11. Arizona Patriot Member
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    Jim George (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I encourage everyone to calm down and to wait to read the doggone Mueller Report before spouting off.

    Also, I am leery of believing an anonymous DOJ official.

    @garyrobbins, at last, something we really agree on! I am at one with you that people should never opine on a document, report, or… a book…until they have read it thoroughly.

    Sincerely, Jim

    Nah.  You can opine on some things after reading the first paragraph or two.  Here’s a great example (I hope I don’t get CoC’d for this one):

    The androcentric scientific and meta-scientific evidence that the penis is the male reproductive organ is considered overwhelming and largely uncontroversial. It is true that nearly all male-gendered persons who were also male at birth have a genital organ that, among other purposes, carries the duct for the transfer of sperm during copulation. This organ is usually identified as the penis, and for many “males” it serves the role of their reproductive organ. There are, however, many examples of persons with penises who will not reproduce, including those who have sustained injury, are unable to coerce a mate, are uninterested in producing offspring, are medically infertile, or identify as asexual. While these examples may still constitute “males,” it is distinctly fallacious to identify their penises as reproductive organs. Furthermore, there are many women who have penises. These are specifically pre-operative transgendered women and chromosomal “males” who choose to identify as women without indicating a desire to transition, and despite damaging cultural tropes against their womanhood and femininity, these constitute critical examples of a human demographic for whom their genital organ, while it may be utilized reproductively in some cases, is not best understood as being a male genital organ (Hird,  2000).

    In light of these important facts about the wide diversity of human expression, including when specified to those humans bearing a penile genital organ, conceptualizing the penis as a specifically male anatomical organ is highly problematic and in critical need of discursive revision. Indeed, the penis vis-à-vis maleness is an incoherent construct. We argue that the conceptual penis is better understood not as an anatomical organ but as a gender-performative, highly fluid social construct.

    This is the opening of a brilliant hoax paper by James Lindsay and Peter Boyle (actually Peter Boghossian), “The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct” (here).

    My reference to this paper is merely an example.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with the special counsel, the deputy attorney general, the former FBI director, or anyone else associated with the Mueller probe.  Really.

    Maybe I shouldn’t have used the word “probe.”  Oops.

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  12. Percival Thatcher
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    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    just read that perhaps the “Russian Collusion” was propped up by Russia using left wing bots to then divide and disillusion Democrats when it was found out not to be true

    we’re through the looking glass

    One of us could be a Russian bot!

    Gee, I wonder who it could be?

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  13. Arizona Patriot Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Also, I am leery of believing an anonymous DOJ official.

    Since the Obama administration, I am leery of believing even identified DOJ officials.

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  14. Gary Robbins Member
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Also, I am leery of believing an anonymous DOJ official.

    Since the Obama administration, I am leery of believing even identified DOJ officials.

    We are finally in agreement with each other!

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  15. RufusRJones Member
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    The clips on Hannity about “treason” and Russia by the statist media and Democrat operatives and congressmen.

    What a country! banana republic.

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  16. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Tucker Carlson’s comment was “it’s so Third World”.

    So many Republicans don’t care.

    This is how we got Trump, and why the House Republicans lost their shiny chairman offices.

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  17. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Also, I am leery of believing an anonymous DOJ official.

    Since the Obama administration, I am leery of believing even identified DOJ officials.

    We are finally in agreement with each other!

    Amend that to “Bush 43” and I’m in violent agreement. Look, this is perfectly normal, in that at least one a generation agencies are going to need serious review and reform. We are overdue for another set of Church Committee hearings.

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Tucker Carlson’s comment was “it’s so Third World”.

    So many Republicans don’t care.

    This is how we got Trump, and why the House Republicans lost their shiny chairman offices.

    That’s what I think.

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  19. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    The investigation was neither legal nor just. We have read report after report of unethical behavior and lies within our investigative agencies. Why should we trust the report? 

    The President tolerated this lawlessness while people were prosecuted for crimes of confused testimony. Will he now pardon them? 

    No truth or justice will result. The investigation’s conclusion won’t end the politics, the divisions, or the yellow journalism. It’s a miserable circus.

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  20. Doug Watt Moderator
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    @DougWatt

    Officer Friendly starts placing the flares at the scene of a 25 million dollar train wreck. Come on folks, there’s nothing to see here, keep moving.

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  21. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    A Friday night news dump, huh? Must not be anything damaging to Trump in it.

    Released on a Friday after 5:00 PM, at the beginning of what is arguably the biggest sporting event in the country where everyone is obsessing over their brackets and will be for days.

    Robert Mueller is going to slip out of town, change his name, and retire to a cabin in Saskatchewan. 

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  22. TBA Coolidge
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    @ejhill, just look to the west and you will see the gallows being erected by the House of Representatives.

    No, not there – it’s just to your left. 

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  23. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    @ejhill, just look to the west and you will see the gallows being erected by the House of Representatives.

    No, not there – it’s just to your left.

    We can always count on you for gallows humor.

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  24. The Reticulator Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I encourage everyone to calm down and to wait to read the doggone Mueller Report before spouting off.

    Ahem. 

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  25. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that Jonathon V. Last (“JVL”) has the most wise conclusion about the Mueller Report. He writes:

    “Two weeks after the public finally sees it, most of the people who dislike Trump will be arguing that the report is terrible for Trump. And most of the people who like Trump will be arguing that the report vindicates Trump.

    Sure, but the people who hate Trump will be lying and the people who like Trump will be telling the truth.

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  26. Gary Robbins Member
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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that Jonathon V. Last (“JVL”) has the most wise conclusion about the Mueller Report. He writes:

    “Two weeks after the public finally sees it, most of the people who dislike Trump will be arguing that the report is terrible for Trump. And most of the people who like Trump will be arguing that the report vindicates Trump.

    Sure, but the people who hate Trump will be lying and the people who like Trump will be telling the truth.

    No Max.

    To paraphrase a now retired and great judge that I appeared before, the people who hate Trump will believe that they are telling the truth, and the people who love Trump will believe that they are telling the truth.  The real truth will likely be somewhere in between.

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  27. Django Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that Jonathon V. Last (“JVL”) has the most wise conclusion about the Mueller Report. He writes:

    “Two weeks after the public finally sees it, most of the people who dislike Trump will be arguing that the report is terrible for Trump. And most of the people who like Trump will be arguing that the report vindicates Trump.

    Sure, but the people who hate Trump will be lying and the people who like Trump will be telling the truth.

    No Max. To paraphrase a great judge that I appeared before, the people who hate Trump will believe that they are telling the truth, and the people who love Trump will believe that they are telling the truth. The real truth will likely be somewhere in between.

    The truth does not always lie somewhere in between. If a group of radical math students believe that 2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2, that doesn’t mean that one can balance his checkbook using that formulation.

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  28. TBA Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that Jonathon V. Last (“JVL”) has the most wise conclusion about the Mueller Report. He writes:

    “Two weeks after the public finally sees it, most of the people who dislike Trump will be arguing that the report is terrible for Trump. And most of the people who like Trump will be arguing that the report vindicates Trump.

    Sure, but the people who hate Trump will be lying and the people who like Trump will be telling the truth.

    No Max.

    To paraphrase a now retired and great judge that I appeared before, the people who hate Trump will believe that they are telling the truth, and the people who love Trump will believe that they are telling the truth. The real truth will likely be somewhere in between.

    Sure, but did he decide court cases by adding up all the testimony and dividing by two? 

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  29. Gary Robbins Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that Jonathon V. Last (“JVL”) has the most wise conclusion about the Mueller Report. He writes:

    “Two weeks after the public finally sees it, most of the people who dislike Trump will be arguing that the report is terrible for Trump. And most of the people who like Trump will be arguing that the report vindicates Trump.

    Sure, but the people who hate Trump will be lying and the people who like Trump will be telling the truth.

    No Max.

    To paraphrase a now retired and great judge that I appeared before, the people who hate Trump will believe that they are telling the truth, and the people who love Trump will believe that they are telling the truth. The real truth will likely be somewhere in between.

    Sure, but did he decide court cases by adding up all the testimony and dividing by two?

    Great question.  This judge usually didn’t average between the two parties.  He would usually tilt towards one party or the other, based upon the strength of the evidence.  However, only rarely did he go 100% for a party, keeping in mind that each party has their own view of the truth.

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  30. James Lileks Contributor
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    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    just read that perhaps the “Russian Collusion” was propped up by Russia using left wing bots to then divide and disillusion Democrats when it was found out not to be true

    we’re through the looking glass

    Eh, that’s too easy. Too obvious. Russian bots set up the idea that Mueller was really investigating HRC, and when that didn’t work out the Republicans would be disillusioned. Then they started QAnon to discredit the previous scenario by making it seem too limited in scope. When that crashes down it discredits the whole Deep State soft coup narrative. Fiendishly clever, those meme-slinging puppetmasters.

     

     

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