The Decline of Western Civilization in One Tweet

 

I hope we never get this bad, but I fear we might:

Instead of trying to ban basic household tools, maybe, just maybe, the answer is more policing. This:

Is a good start, but many are saying it’s far from enough. The BBC reports,

The money will mainly go to the seven forces where violence is highest.

But the fund – announced by Chancellor Philip Hammond in his Spring Statement – falls short of the £200m to £300m requested by police chiefs last week.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan said the extra money was “a drop in the ocean” after years of decreasing police budgets.

“Cuts have consequences and the government needs to urgently give our police the funding they desperately need,” he said.

Funding to police forces – which comes from central government and council tax – fell by 19% in real terms between 2010-11 and 2018-19, according to the National Audit Office.

Officer numbers have fallen by around 20,000 since 2010.

Knife crimes are at an all-time high, and the U.K. seems incapable and unwilling to get to the bottom of why.

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  1. Member

    Is anyone aware of the demographics of these crimes? I’m suspecting immigrants. Anyone know? That’s why I think it doesn’t want to get to the bottom of this.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 8:20 am
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  2. Contributor

    Perhaps somebody ought to think about bringing a gun to this knife fight.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 8:25 am
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  3. Member

    Oh, for heaven’s sake. London has already outlawed (regulated) knives! That’s why (Muslim) gangs have started committing acid attacks. 

    I’m sorry, they’ll never have enough enforcement unless they deal with their cultural problems. You keep importing people who don’t share your values, eventually your values give way. Let’s hope the US gets the memo.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 8:25 am
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    The U.K. PTB prosecute people who discuss online the immmigrant connection. Rotherham is an example of how the authorities have failed to crack down on “Asian” sex gangs.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 8:26 am
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    The U.K. PTB prosecute people who discuss online the immmigrant connection. Rotherham is an example of how the authorities have failed to crack down on “Asian” sex gangs.

    Couldn’t they at least modify it to be “West Asian” sex gangs? How do the Indians, Chinese, and Japanese feel about being lumped into that group?

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    • March 14, 2019 at 8:30 am
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  6. Member

    If you outlaw knives then only criminals will have knives . . . and chefs . . . butchers . . . 

    • #6
    • March 14, 2019 at 8:32 am
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    If you outlaw knives […acid… cricket bats … fists…] then only criminals will have knives . . . 

     

    • #7
    • March 14, 2019 at 8:35 am
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    I urge the Ricochetti to buy guns.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 8:47 am
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  9. Thatcher

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    The U.K. PTB prosecute people who discuss online the immmigrant connection. Rotherham is an example of how the authorities have failed to crack down on “Asian” sex gangs.

    Richard,

    Isn’t this the ultimate in absurdity. Who does “knife crimes”? Who does “acid attacks”? Who does “sex grooming”. Who are in the neighborhoods that the police are afraid to go at night and everyone else afraid to go at all? Everyone in Britain and Europe knows who it is. Yet the government stops the media from reporting the simple truth. The government is shilling for the policy of unlimited mass migration.

    Time to get a new government.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • March 14, 2019 at 8:53 am
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    Question, however. Has anyone done a “diminishing returns” study on LE funding? I know that throwing more money at education often has little to no benefit, so I wonder when we would reach a similar point with the police. I’m not saying that anyone has reached that point yet, but I’m just wondering.

    In my mind police forces are the most necessary, most useful, and noblest government organization. But they’re still government organizations…

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    • March 14, 2019 at 9:05 am
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Couldn’t they at least modify it to be “West Asian” sex gangs? How do the Indians, Chinese, and Japanese feel about being lumped into that group?

    Third generation of Jamaican immigrants aren’t Asian. And that’s a lot of what is occurring especially in London.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 9:32 am
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    However, the Met and other large city police departments in the U.K. have plenty of officers assigned to social media to make sure that you do not engage in wrongthink. The Met alone received £1.7M to fund a full time “hate crime” unit to police the mean streets of Twitter and Facebook.

    Hold on dearly to your first two Amendments, folks. This is the future they want for you, too.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 9:34 am
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    It was when the current PM was Home Secretary that police funding was cut and stop and search was stopped because it was deemed racist. Why this woman ever became PM simply shows the total disgusting nature of the Conservative Party.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 9:34 am
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Oh, for heaven’s sake. London has already outlawed (regulated) knives! That’s why (Muslim) gangs have started committing acid attacks.

    I’d like to suggest maybe it’s the immigrants who should have GPS trackers installed, but I’m scared London’s major would issue a Fatwa on me . . .

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    • March 14, 2019 at 9:35 am
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    She

    Blurg.

    You know, I’ve made a life, and a career, out of refusing to be embarrassed for, or by, the behavior of other people. I only cop to that for my own actions. And almost never, when my own behavior is motivated by love or kindness, no matter how idiotic it appears to others.

    This is probably because my mother was a world-class manipulator who sought out people’s vulnerabilities and played on them like fiddles, to the fullest extent and as hurtfully as possible. So. No. Calling people out that way doesn’t usually work with me.

    But, Lord. Where has my Dad’s generation gone?

    Everyone does know that “Sajid Javid” (Tweet #2 in the OP) is the “Home Secretary” in the Government of Prime Minister Theresa May, right?

    I am embarrassed on behalf of my countrymen. And women. And whatever.

     

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    • March 14, 2019 at 9:49 am
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    This is a clear demonstration that outlawing guns is the government demanding knife violence in preference to gun violence.

    Government needs to focus on the “violence” part and stop picking winners and losers in the weapons of choice.

     

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    • March 14, 2019 at 9:55 am
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    The Police are pretty much on strike. They are not allowed to go on strike of course, so they cover for it by sitting in the office and police social media instead. Call them in rural Cambridgeshire and they might get back to you in a couple of months.

    The real danger of this is that there are police who do important work, yet in general we hold the Police in contempt and, shockingly, with a tinge of fear. There are so many laws now that everyone has contravened one at sometime. We live under a regime (as in Angelo Codevilla’s use of regime) of Progressive Authoritarianism. We have come a long way from Peel’s principals.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:10 am
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    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    The U.K. PTB prosecute people who discuss online the immmigrant connection. Rotherham is an example of how the authorities have failed to crack down on “Asian” sex gangs.

    Richard,

    Isn’t this the ultimate in absurdity. Who does “knife crimes”? Who does “acid attacks”? Who does “sex grooming”. Who are in the neighborhoods that the police are afraid to go at night and everyone else afraid to go at all? Everyone in Britain and Europe knows who it is. Yet the government stops the media from reporting the simple truth. The government is shilling for the policy of unlimited mass migration.

    Time to get a new government.

    Regards,

    Jim

    Ah, but James, were you in the U.K. and happened to tweet such a thing, the underfunded police would dispatch the Hate Crimes Unit to get up in your grill faster than you can say “Enoch Powell.” 

    You’re all on report. Haters.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:25 am
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    Bethany Mandel: Knife crimes are at an all-time high, and the U.K. seems incapable and unwilling to get to the bottom of why.

    The answer seems almost obvious. If you have lax policing, you will get more criminals acting out. Knives are an accessory to a crime, not the cause of it. Calling it knife crimes seems to me to be misscharacterizing and diagnosing the issue. You rob someone at knife point (the crime is robbery), you stab some one (the crime is assault). You can rob or injure people without knives, knives certainly make injuring some one easier, but you can always use a pipe, stick, bat, or blunt instrument to do equal levels of damage. You can’t possibly outlaw or monitor every device that can be used to cause bodily injury that is easily purchasable. That is insane. 

     

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:28 am
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    Rather than restricting access to perfectly serviceable utensils, perhaps they could use said utensils in a program of (perhaps, maybe) voluntary castration — a nation peopled entirely by women and gelded males being, presumably, less likely to engage in violence and other displays of toxic masculinity.

    Or they could dutifully surrender their guns, knives, claw hammers, rolling pins, etc., which I suppose amounts to much the same thing.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:32 am
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Oh, for heaven’s sake. London has already outlawed (regulated) knives! That’s why (Muslim) gangs have started committing acid attacks.

    I’d like to suggest maybe it’s the immigrants who should have GPS trackers installed, but I’m scared London’s major would issue a Fatwa on me . . .

    It’s just part of living in a big city (especially when your mayor is Sadiq Khan).

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:47 am
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Oh, for heaven’s sake. London has already outlawed (regulated) knives! That’s why (Muslim) gangs have started committing acid attacks.

    I’d like to suggest maybe it’s the immigrants who should have GPS trackers installed, but I’m scared London’s major would issue a Fatwa on me . . .

    It’s just part of living in a big city (especially when your mayor is Sadiq Khan).

    I’m going to guess that a lot of people have not heard the quotation you’re referencing. ;)

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:50 am
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    David Carroll (View Comment):
    This is a clear demonstration that outlawing guns is the government demanding knife violence in preference to gun violence.

    Outlawing knives will result in England’s Muslims taking up cricket:

    “It’s not a weapon, officer. I’m on my way to a cricket match.”

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:50 am
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Is anyone aware of the demographics of these crimes? I’m suspecting immigrants. Anyone know? That’s why I think it doesn’t want to get to the bottom of this.

    Actually, it’s a pretty broad-spectrum crime issue, with racial gangs only part of the problem. I actually know a London cop, and off the record he’s been quite forthright on the matter. It’s really more a systemic problem the UK has had brewing for decades with regards to law enforcement, prosecution, laws against self-defense, etc.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 10:52 am
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    David Carroll (View Comment):

    This is a clear demonstration that outlawing guns is the government demanding knife violence in preference to gun violence.

    Government needs to focus on the “violence” part and stop picking winners and losers in the weapons of choice.

     

    Picking winners and losers in the weapon of choice just leads to those who seek to do violence to choose a different weapon. As @westernchauvinist noted in Comment #3, in the face of restrictions on knives, acid is becoming a weapon of choice. We have already seen cars and trucks used as weapons. There are so many useful things that can be turned into weapons that no effort to outlaw or track all weapons will ever be successful. 

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    Bethany Mandel Post author

    Stad (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Oh, for heaven’s sake. London has already outlawed (regulated) knives! That’s why (Muslim) gangs have started committing acid attacks.

    I’d like to suggest maybe it’s the immigrants who should have GPS trackers installed, but I’m scared London’s major would issue a Fatwa on me . . .

    That would, I fear, make things a lot worse. The more immigrant communities in Europe (I’m most familiar with France & Belgium because I lived there), the more extreme its members become. This was a disturbing story when I lived there and contributes a lot to the radicalization of France’s immigrant population. 

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    • March 14, 2019 at 11:06 am
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    If you outlaw knives then only criminals will have knives . . . and chefs . . . butchers . . .

    With licensed knife sets.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 11:48 am
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    Stad: “It’s not a weapon, officer. I’m on my way to a cricket match.”

    You’re late to the game, Stad. Eight years ago AmazonUK reported a huge surge in sales of aluminum baseball bats in 2011.

    Other countries have followed suit. In 2016 Amazon sold 500,00 bats in Russia – and exactly one baseball.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 11:50 am
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    Stad (View Comment):

    David Carroll (View Comment):
    This is a clear demonstration that outlawing guns is the government demanding knife violence in preference to gun violence.

    Outlawing knives will result in England’s Muslims taking up cricket:

    “It’s not a weapon, officer. I’m on my way to a cricket match.”

    If you follow cricket, you know that it has been huge in former colonies and possessions for many years.

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    • March 14, 2019 at 11:51 am
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    Other countries have followed suit. In 2016 Amazon sold 5,000 bats in Russia – and exactly one baseball.

    No! That’s too good to check.

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