Quote of the Day: Gen. Grant at Ft. Donelson

 

This quote is taken from Ron Chernow’s excellent biography. Gen. Grant’s men took Ft. Henry easily in February 1862. The fort was poorly constructed and was nearly inundated by rising river waters. He then marched to Ft. Donelson. Its loss cost the South 12,000 surrendered men and opened the Cumberland River to Union penetration. The top two Confederate commanders (Floyd and Pillow) fled leaving Gen Buckner to surrender. Buckner had helped Grant when he was down on his luck in the 1850s. However, Grant demanded unconditional surrender which Buckner reluctantly accepted.

After their greetings, Grant asked [Buckner] why Pillow had fled. “Well, he thought you would rather have hold of him than of any other man in the Southern Confederacy.” “Oh no,” Grant smirked. “If I had got him I’d have let him go again; he will do us more good commanding you fellows.” Grant and Buckner, both veterans who remembered Pillow from Mexico, shared a good laugh at this caustic remark.

This victory resulted in Grant being promoted to Major General and eventually command of all Union armies. At the end of Grant’s life, Buckner visited him and introduced him to his new wife (his son became a Lt. General and was killed at Okinawa). The book portrays Grant as defending the freed slaves but also reaching out to the defeated Confederate soldiers. Even Jefferson Davis sent Grant a sympathetic message upon hearing that he had cancer.

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  1. philo Member
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    Richard Easton: The top two Confederate commanders (Floyd and Pillow) fled leaving Gen Buckner to surrender. Buckner had helped Grant when he was down on his luck in the 1850s. However, Grant demanded unconditional surrender which Buckner reluctantly accepted.

    If you will permit, an extension of this brief summary from Grant Moves South by Bruce Catton with additional context for our local histor[y] buffs and/or those looking for tips on leadership and backbone (or maybe the exact opposite):

    General Buckner was not pleased. He had befriended Grant some years earlier, when Grant needed a friend very much, and he seems to have felt Grant ought to remember this now. He wrote stiffly in reply:

    “The distribution of the forces under my command incident to an unexpected change of commanders and the overwhelming force under your command compel me, notwithstanding the brilliant success of the Confederate arms yesterday, to accept the ungenerous and unchivalrous terms which you propose.”

    If this note was both grumpy and inexact — Grant was not “proposing terms” of any sort, and he was under no obligation to be chivalrous — Buckner can be forgiven. He had just been through one of the oddest farce-comedy sequences in Civil War history, and it left him with an uneven temper. During the night his two superiors, Generals Floyd and Pillow, had had a fantastic conference. Floyd, believing surrender inevitable, had no wish to be captured; he had been Secretary of War in President Buchanan’s cabinet, patriotic Northerners were accusing him of having anticipated the act of secession by transferring government arms to Southern states, and it seemed likely that the Lincoln government would put him on trial if it laid hand on him. So, quite blandly, he had turned over the command to the next in line, Pillow. Pillow entertained two conflicting opinions: that surrender was not exactly necessary, but that Floyd’s decision to surrender would be binding on the new commander anyway. Also, he was as reluctant as Floyd to become the first Confederate general captured by the Unionists. So Pillow, without hesitation, had turned the command over to Buckner — who, being of stouter fiber than his two superiors, believed that an officer who surrendered his post ought to stay with his troops and take the consequences. Floyd thereupon put himself and several Virginia regiments on the transports and steamed off to Nashville; Pillow found space for himself and his staff on another transport and followed Floyd, and doughty Bedford Forrest, disgusted by the whole operation, boldly marched his cavalry off to freedom through the flooded lowlands south of the fort. That left Buckner as the residuary legatee of disaster, and he did what he had to do manfully but unhappily. – Pages 175-176

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  2. Mark Camp Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    But McClellan the intellectual was incapable of acting unless he thought he had a complete dataset.

    Right.  Somewhat intellectual, but not quite intellectual enough to do the job he was hired for.

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  3. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Unwoke Caveman Lawyer (View Comment):

    I love the quote, but the suggestion that a general who fought in the Civil War had a son who was a lieutenant general and died in the Second World War also caught my eye! I did a double take, but sure enough, 100% true:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Bolivar_Buckner_Jr.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Bolivar_Buckner

    His wife died of tuberculosis; he waited eleven years, but eventually took a second wife, a 28-year-old, at age 62. He sired junior at age 63, who in turn became a lieutenant general and died in the Battle of Okinawa at age 58.

    What lives, both of them! God rest them.

    My Dad said that the 2000 census taker was amazed that his grandfather fought in the Civil War.  I have two great grandfathers who were with the Army of the Potomac.  One of them was Custer’s bugler.

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  4. Arahant Member
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    My Dad said that the 2000 census taker was amazed that his grandfather fought in the Civil War. I have two great grandfathers who were with the Army of the Potomac. One of them was Custer’s bugler.

    Man, you’re old. 😈 Closest I have is four great-great-grandfathers and then one great-great-great-grandfather who served in the War.

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  5. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    My Dad said that the 2000 census taker was amazed that his grandfather fought in the Civil War. I have two great grandfathers who were with the Army of the Potomac. One of them was Custer’s bugler.

    Man, you’re old. 😈 Closest I have is four great-great-grandfathers and then one great-great-great-grandfather who served in the War.

    I’m the youngest kid and Dad was the youngest boy.  I was born in 55, Dad in 21 and Grandfather in 1877.

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