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Well this was one I’d never heard of. I find that it takes even more creativity to observe the rules of a form than it does to have no rules.
Exactly, and true of every art.
Yes, it’s true of Bach fugues etc.
We were not surrounded by, but separated by a moat
Nice.
Thank you.
I should add that the earlier twelve of these lessons, plus the side lights (related lessons), can be found by following the tag:
http://ricochet.com/tag/poetic-form/
Ah yes, I remember the haiku one in particular. I mean I’ve actually heard of the haiku ha.
Also, this is the group writing for today under the theme of How Do You Make That? I’m sure that @cliffordbrown would appreciate it if you know how to make something if you would go and sign up:
http://ricochet.com/589915/february-2019-theme-writing-how-do-you-make-that/
Plenty of dates are still available, such as tomorrow, for instance.
I have somewhere around five hundred poetic forms. All different cultures, all different sorts of requirements. It’s a fascinating study.
Too hard. I’ll stick with the dirty limerick.
Challenges are good for you.
Yes indeed. Do tell us how you make that: big or small, awesomely brilliant, terribly clever, or spectacularly failed! That is right, you need not fear others judging your efforts, or results. Just tell a story or offer a tip.
This conversation is part of our Group Writing Series under the February 2019 Theme Writing: How Do You Make That? There are plenty of dates still available. Tell us about anything from knitting a sweater to building a mega-structure. Share your proudest success or most memorable failure (how not to make that). Do you agree with Arahants’ General Theory of Creativity? “Mostly it was knowing a few techniques, having the right tools, and having a love for building and creating whatever it was.” Our schedule and sign-up sheet awaits.
I will post March’s theme mid month.
The three poems are beautiful! Arahant, did you write them? Do I understand that correctly?
(It will be embarrassing if someone comments ‘Duh! They’re by W.B. Yeats! Did you even go to school, moron?”)
Whoa, man! He’s right…it’s not just the same pattern of rhyme…every line ends in the same six words, again and again! I scrolled down the poems mesmerized, like Peter Fonda in “The Trip”.
In all seriousness: How did we end up with a scholar of such erudition among us? Thanks, Arahant.
Sadly, my poetic tendencies are more the Philistina.
Yes, I did. Thank you.
I haven’t explored the limerick yet; however, I have discussed lighter forms, such as the triolet, the villanelle, and the mad cow, all of which are considered lighter forms.
Wow, what a complicated form.
I don’t think I ever taught a sestina. The poetic form I’m fondest of is the villanelle, the form of “Do Not Go Gentle into That Good Night.”
Oh Arahant, how do I get back to the Daily Quote section? I think I’m up tomorrow.
You are:
http://ricochet.com/588406/quote-of-the-day-february-sign-up-sheet/
That was earlier in the series:
http://ricochet.com/341817/archives/poetry-forms-no-8-villanelle/
I could not agree more. My cousin and I used to argue over it years ago when we lived together and both were writing poetry a lot. He thought I was a conformist because I cared about rhythm, meter, etc. and I thought he was a wanna-be artist with no talent.
Timely post. I used to read and write poetry a lot in the late 90s and early aughts. I haven’t since though and haven’t really thought about poetry much but was just listening to the First Things podcast yesterday with a Hillsdale professor, Eric Hutchinson, talk about his class and W.H. Auden. I told myself I should try to get back into reading it again.
The other half of it is that once one learns the disciplines of the art, it is easier to break the rules in a meaningful way. Even Picasso could paint in a way we could appreciate:
A lot of painters these days have never learned the old ways, all they know is the version without rules. That is also true of poets. They grew up in a time of no rules. And they write crap. Now, so do a lot of folks who have studied the rules, but at least they know how to add artistic flourishes to their crap. 😜
Oh, just ask me to solve for cold fusion, why doncha?
Just look at the examples. You’ll figure it out.