Patriotism Epitomized

 

I didn’t watch the Super Bowl, but I’ve watched this video of Gladys Knight twice. Beautifully sung. Touching moment with our troops. Military jets soaring.

Every now and then, being reminded that we are all part of something bigger is soul-filling.

Thank you, Ms. Knight, for bringing dignity to our country for just a few moments.

 

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  1. Chris Hutchinson Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Chris Hutchinson (View Comment):
    (A)individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

    Thanks so much, @chrishutch13! That is so interesting. I did notice, however, that the military folk who were shown as a group while she sang were at attention, not saluting. Could that be because they weren’t in formal uniform?

    No, Susan, it was because they were indoors. If they would have been at the event, they would have been saluting even in that uniform. 

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  2. Virtuous Heathen Inactive
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    The Great Adventure! (View Comment):

    For those complaining about the lady wandering off the base melody:

    The Star Spangled Banner is a notoriously difficult song to sing. And Gladys is 74 years old. She gave a fantastic performance and made the song match to her current vocal abilities without going too far out of bounds. I’m not much of a singer but even with my limited abilities I recognize that my 59 year old voice doesn’t have the power and range that it had in my younger years.

    Except, she didn’t make it easier to suit her abilities, she made it more difficult to show off. 

    No one here is complaining about her lack of vocal power or ability. In fact, the opposite. She did her own thing that regular folks couldn’t keep time with.

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  3. Chris Hutchinson Coolidge
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    Virtuous Heathen (View Comment):
    In fact our customs regarding the anthem have lost their way. Placing your hand over your heart is for the pledge, not the anthem. The respectful thing to do is simply to stand and remove your cap. If you want to do more than the minimum: SING ALONG.

    We’re not compelled to but US code does indeed say we should for the anthem, therefore it’s the proper etiquette. You think it shouldn’t? I think it should but I guess the case can be made it shouldn’t even for a patriotic person. 

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  4. Mark Camp Member
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    Sopranos putting off the move: may this inspire you to make the leap.  Took a bye on a note that couldn’t have been much above C5, and had grown men sobbing uncontrollably by the end.  Just think what you could still do as an alto.

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  5. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    I agree the halftime show was terrible.

    Once we get a nuclear deal with North Korea, the NFL should outsource the show to them, fly everyone in and I bet they’d still save money and have a much better show. 

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  6. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Franco (View Comment):

    I agree the halftime show was terrible.

    Once we get a nuclear deal with North Korea, the NFL should outsource the show to them, fly everyone in and I bet they’d still save money and have a much better show.

    I don’t think that there jets would work as well. Our jets are awesome. 

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  7. Virtuous Heathen Inactive
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    Chris Hutchinson (View Comment):

    We’re not compelled to but US code does indeed say we should for the anthem, therefore it’s the proper etiquette. You think it shouldn’t? I think it should but I guess the case can be made it shouldn’t even for a patriotic person.

    The Star Spangled Banner and the Pledge themselves predate their formal adoption in 1931 and 1942 respectively. As such, establishment of the US Code was done to change those practices–a bit of social engineering dressed up as patriotism. Why were they changed? Most notably because the customary salute was with an outstretched arm, above the shoulders, palm facing down. Yes, what we now recognize as a heil. And so in 1942 the US code was implemented and the Pledge formally adopted for the purpose of altering the customs due to superficial similarities to Nazi propaganda. (There’s an argument to be made that they traded superficial similarities for innate ones.)

    While the salute was customary for The Pledge and Flag Raising Ceremonies–the Anthem rose to prominence with a very different practice where, based on a familiar tune, it was sung and played by large gatherings of people–together. Not with displays of reverence while one soloist gives their jazzy rendition. From the first public performance of the Star Spangled Banner to the Flag Code: 128 years. As evidenced by several comments in this topic, the desire to sing along in patriotic unity is not gone. But it is diminished.

    TL;DR: I think the US Flag Code, which treats all displays of the flag in a uniform manner, has diminished the distinctions that had otherwise very naturally grown to serve separate purposes in civic displays of patriotism.

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  8. namlliT noD Member
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    Gladys came through with an awesome performance.  Stunning, patriotic, classy, beautiful.

    Virtuous Heathen (View Comment):

    The Great Adventure! (View Comment):

    For those complaining about the lady wandering off the base melody:

    The Star Spangled Banner is a notoriously difficult song to sing. And Gladys is 74 years old. She gave a fantastic performance and made the song match to her current vocal abilities without going too far out of bounds. I’m not much of a singer but even with my limited abilities I recognize that my 59 year old voice doesn’t have the power and range that it had in my younger years.

    Except, she didn’t make it easier to suit her abilities, she made it more difficult to show off.

    No one here is complaining about her lack of vocal power or ability. In fact, the opposite. She did her own thing that regular folks couldn’t keep time with.

    Oh good grief… She basically changed one note.  “…can you see” is F#, A, D, and instead she did F#,E, D.

    It wasn’t for matching her vocal abilities, it wasn’t for showing off.  My guess is that it was a harmony part she liked.

    Either way, I thought that tweak opened a delightful interpretation of the piece. 

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  9. dnewlander Inactive
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    I thought it was good. She changed a note and tweaked with the pacing a bit, but…

    It’s an old English drinking tune, not a hymn, I’m not too fussed about it.

    I thought the girls who sang America, The Beautiful were great. Their harmonies were really nice.

    The think that annoys me is that too many people don’t actually know the words to the anthem.

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  10. Cow Girl Thatcher
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    I thought she did a stunning job. Especially in contrast to some of the horrible versions that are easily found on YouTube from previous events–both football and baseball. It is a very difficult song to sing. It goes up and down and all around. It would be quite tricky to do as a solo for a big deal like the Superbowl. I liked her non-flashy, non-self-aggrandizing, yet personal version that evidenced her personal respect for the opportunity and the song.

    The best version I’ve heard was from my 4th grade students in Maryland  about 15 years ago. We went on a field trip to Fort McHenry in Baltimore. Some soldiers, dressed in period uniforms, brought out a 15 stars, 15 stripes version of Old Glory, and ran it up the pole there in the middle of the fort. It was the same place the flag flew that Francis Scott Key saw in the dawn’s early light. (I’m sure it was not the same flag pole.) But, then, we all stood there, and put our hands over our hearts, and sang the National Anthem. It was stirring! I’ll bet that none of those kids–now adults–ever sit or slouch or show disrespect when they attend a ball game.

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  11. George Townsend Inactive
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    Thank you, Susan.

    And thank you, Gladys. You sing lovely. And your words about the song, and the unity that we must have, as Americans, are truly inspiring. God Bless you! And May God Always Bless and Love America!!

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  12. Chris Hutchinson Coolidge
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    Virtuous Heathen (View Comment):

    Chris Hutchinson (View Comment):

    We’re not compelled to but US code does indeed say we should for the anthem, therefore it’s the proper etiquette. You think it shouldn’t? I think it should but I guess the case can be made it shouldn’t even for a patriotic person.

    The Star Spangled Banner and the Pledge themselves predate their formal adoption in 1931 and 1942 respectively. As such, establishment of the US Code was done to change those practices–a bit of social engineering dressed up as patriotism. Why were they changed? Most notably because the customary salute was with an outstretched arm, above the shoulders, palm facing down. Yes, what we now recognize as a heil. And so in 1942 the US code was implemented and the Pledge formally adopted for the purpose of altering the customs due to superficial similarities to Nazi propaganda. (There’s an argument to be made that they traded superficial similarities for innate ones.)

    While the salute was customary for The Pledge and Flag Raising Ceremonies–the Anthem rose to prominence with a very different practice where, based on a familiar tune, it was sung and played by large gatherings of people–together. Not with displays of reverence while one soloist gives their jazzy rendition. From the first public performance of the Star Spangled Banner to the Flag Code: 128 years. As evidenced by several comments in this topic, the desire to sing along in patriotic unity is not gone. But it is diminished.

    TL;DR: I think the US Flag Code, which treats all displays of the flag in a uniform manner, has diminished the distinctions that had otherwise very naturally grown to serve separate purposes in civic displays of patriotism.

    I get it. I know the history and evolution of our National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance so I can’t say you don’t have a point. With that said, I view the US Code and changes made as part of a natural growth reflecting what we as a country want. I WISH people would follow it but only really get annoyed with people around me if they are talking. I guess all I can really say is that I know what I as a soldier was being taught by men I respected so I carry it on. The only people I’m in a position to do that with is with myself and three out of my four children. So, we stand and place our hand on our heart regardless of where we are. We do also sing as best we can despite the rendition. There have been some renditions over the years I’ve thought have gone too far but I tend to be fine with most. Gladys’ was more than fine, in my opinion.   

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  13. David Carroll Thatcher
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    On further reflection, I realize that this video says a lot about our country in these times. It may be a coincidence of the filming, but not one black player shown put his hand over his heart during her rendition. Also note that we live in times when we can watch a beautiful, successful black woman, dressed for the occasion, belting out our most patriotic song, and she does it with great pride. Interesting contrasts.

    For Ms. Knight’s reflections on her performance, visit here .

    I beg to disagree about the hand over the heart.  That is the tradition for the pledge of allegiance, not the national anthem.

     

    [Update] I see I am late to the party on this comment.

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  14. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    The Great Adventure! (View Comment):
    The Star Spangled Banner is a notoriously difficult song to sing.

    I never stop being amazed at the fact that it was originally a drinking song. Not the fact that we appropriated a drinking song for our national anthem; heck, a well beloved Christmas hymn started out as a paeon to a prostitute. But how was anyone supposed to sing “To Anachreon in Heaven” after imbibing anything?!

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  15. James Gawron Inactive
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    Virtuous Heathen (View Comment):

    The Great Adventure! (View Comment):

    For those complaining about the lady wandering off the base melody:

    The Star Spangled Banner is a notoriously difficult song to sing. And Gladys is 74 years old. She gave a fantastic performance and made the song match to her current vocal abilities without going too far out of bounds. I’m not much of a singer but even with my limited abilities I recognize that my 59 year old voice doesn’t have the power and range that it had in my younger years.

    Except, she didn’t make it easier to suit her abilities, she made it more difficult to show off.

    No one here is complaining about her lack of vocal power or ability. In fact, the opposite. She did her own thing that regular folks couldn’t keep time with.

    VH,

    I completely disagree. She had been attacked by the left for singing the National Anthem period. They accused her of not showing the proper disrespect for Whitey. She responded by telling the infant terribles that she had been in real civil rights marches and didn’t need lessons from spoiled children.

    That fact that she invested her own style into the piece and gave her maximum performance only goes to her credit. She showed the worst her best and then some. I loved it.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  16. Virtuous Heathen Inactive
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    James Gawron (View Comment):

    I completely disagree. She had been attacked by the left for singing the National Anthem period. They accused her of not showing the proper disrespect for Whitey. She responded by telling the infant terribles that she had been in real civil rights marches and didn’t need lessons from spoiled children.

    The original post is not about the political value of her appearance–or her comments prior to. It was about the performance itself.  My comments were made in that context. 

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  17. Virtuous Heathen Inactive
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):
    Virtuous Heathen (View Comment):

    Except, she didn’t make it easier to suit her abilities, she made it more difficult to show off.

    No one here is complaining about her lack of vocal power or ability. In fact, the opposite. She did her own thing that regular folks couldn’t keep time with.

    Oh good grief… She basically changed one note. “…can you see” is F#, A, D, and instead she did F#,E, D.

    This is exactly my point. I was responding to a comment which suggested it was different because she wasn’t capable of doing it in quite the traditional mode.

    However, she changed the tempo–not only slowing it down but varying and extending the rests disproportionately. Those changes did make more difficult to follow. Yes, she made it her own. That’s the problem. It’s not hers. It’s not mine. Not yours. Not anyone’s. It’s ours.

    It’s not a big deal if everyone can’t hit the notes. The standard for judging the quality should be an ability to inject one’s own talents while still leading in a manner that people can follow. She only did one of those things. I’m glad to see many here who feel the same. But a little disappointed so many think its unreasonable of us to say “Gee, I wish I could have sung along.”

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  18. The Great Adventure! Inactive
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    Sigh.

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  19. James Gawron Inactive
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    Virtuous Heathen (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    I completely disagree. She had been attacked by the left for singing the National Anthem period. They accused her of not showing the proper disrespect for Whitey. She responded by telling the infant terribles that she had been in real civil rights marches and didn’t need lessons from spoiled children.

    The original post is not about the political value of her appearance–or her comments prior to. It was about the performance itself. My comments were made in that context.

    VH,

    Then first let’s just talk style. Gladys Knight is not an Operatic singer nor is she just a Modern singer of average style. Gladys Knight is a classic Soul singer. Her variations are classic Soul variations which I thought were pulled off tastefully and to maximum effect. It was a superb performance. Whether someone doesn’t enjoy a Soul styled performance is irrelevant to the quality of that performance.

    However, I would add that it is still impossible to fully ignore the psychological pressure put on her unjustly by woke fools. In such a context she was positively breathtaking. I won’t forget her, both for her talent and for her guts.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  20. Percival Thatcher
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    Amy Schley (View Comment):

    The Great Adventure! (View Comment):
    The Star Spangled Banner is a notoriously difficult song to sing.

    I never stop being amazed at the fact that it was originally a drinking song. Not the fact that we appropriated a drinking song for our national anthem; heck, a well beloved Christmas hymn started out as a paeon to a prostitute. But how was anyone supposed to sing “To Anachreon in Heaven” after imbibing anything?!

    The only thing nearly as entertaining as staggering down the road with your snozzled friends is hearing them try to negotiate a song with an octave and a half range while snozzled.

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  21. David Carroll Thatcher
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    When I was younger, I disliked hearing a familiar pop song that differed in any respect from the original.  I have changed.  I am no longer the pedant I once was when if came to favorite music.  Now I enjoy hearing the familiar melody with creative variation.  It keeps the favorite from seeming old and perhaps stale.

    A professional musician can make every rendition seem fresh.  That is what Gladys Knight did.  The thematic variations were minor and respectful, even reverent.  I thought it was wonderful.

     Side note.  In the late 60’s early 70’s, I heard and danced to live performances of Gladys Knight and the Pips at a local venue before they got famous.  She is talented lady and I am pleased for her lifetime success.

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  22. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    David Carroll (View Comment):
     Side note. In the late 60’s early 70’s, I heard and danced to live performances of Gladys Knight and the Pips at a local venue before they got famous. She is talented lady and I am pleased for her lifetime success.

    Lucky you! She is a great artist and a terrific lady.

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  23. cdor Member
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    David Carroll (View Comment):
    I am no longer the pedant I once was when if came to favorite music.

    Whaaat? We are supposed to become more pedantful the older we get…not less.

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  24. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    cdor (View Comment):

    David Carroll (View Comment):
    I am no longer the pedant I once was when if came to favorite music.

    Whaaat? We are supposed to become more pedantful the older we get…not less.

    Says who? ;-)  I’ve wanted to be seen as flamboyant my whole life! Well, okay, I’m a work in progress . . .

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  25. cdor Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    David Carroll (View Comment):
    I am no longer the pedant I once was when if came to favorite music.

    Whaaat? We are supposed to become more pedantful the older we get…not less.

    Says who? ;-) I’ve wanted to be seen as flamboyant my whole life! Well, okay, I’m a work in progress . . .

    Flamboyant, really?

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  26. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    David Carroll (View Comment):
    I am no longer the pedant I once was when if came to favorite music.

    Whaaat? We are supposed to become more pedantful the older we get…not less.

    Says who? ;-) I’ve wanted to be seen as flamboyant my whole life! Well, okay, I’m a work in progress . . .

    Flamboyant, really?

    The word I was going for was eccentric. Sort of.

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  27. cdor Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    David Carroll (View Comment):
    I am no longer the pedant I once was when if came to favorite music.

    Whaaat? We are supposed to become more pedantful the older we get…not less.

    Says who? ;-) I’ve wanted to be seen as flamboyant my whole life! Well, okay, I’m a work in progress . . .

    Flamboyant, really?

    The word I was going for was eccentric. Sort of.

    Ahh, that makes more sense to me.

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  28. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    cdor (View Comment):
    Ahh, that makes more sense to me.

    Wait a sec–what does that mean??

    I’m sorry, I’m getting carried away . . .  ;-)

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  29. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    David Carroll (View Comment):
    I am no longer the pedant I once was when if came to favorite music.

    Whaaat? We are supposed to become more pedantful the older we get…not less.

    Says who? ;-) I’ve wanted to be seen as flamboyant my whole life! Well, okay, I’m a work in progress . . .

    Flamboyant, really?

    The word I was going for was eccentric. Sort of.

    Look if you aren’t flamyboyant, be a classy and sexy Irish lady. Just be a good version of what you are.

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