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Now, I’m the last person to try and defend the non-intellect AOC has displayed before, during, and after her election. However, I see some trends we conservatives are using when describing her, and it isn’t right.

Actually, it’s also on the left, but let’s bring it up. I see articles about how this “bartender” ended up getting elected. My personal disdain for her aside, why imply someone who was “merely” a bartender can’t represent her district? Next, you’ll be saying a Manhattan real estate billionaire can’t be President.

My point is we should not disparage the previous occupations of elected officials. Don’t you want accomplished citizens to leave the private sector (briefly, I hope) and represent us in office?

My very first job was at age 16, cleaning hubcaps at Jet Car Wash in Raleigh. After that, I worked for a lawn care company, then UPS senior year as a package sorter before graduating and going to college. Even then, I worked as a cashier-stocker for a friend’s grocery store after my sophomore year at NC State, as well as for my neighbor who owned an electrical contracting company. There are times I think I’d make a damn good representative in the House, but my love of sanity, retirement, and reality know better.

As for bartending, I’m acquainted with one bartender who became a millionaire. He now owns a bar and several others (along with his wife). The bottom line? Let’s not knock the former occupations of the opposition’s people. It makes us look stupid, as well as too good to represent anyone…

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  1. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member

    Stad: I see articles about how this “bartender” ended up getting elected. My personal disdain for her aside, why imply someone who was “merely” a bartender can’t represent her district?

    I certainly don’t see a problem with it.

    Stad: There are times I think I’d make a damn good representative in the House, but my love of sanity, retirement, and reality know better.

    If you promised to continue acting like you were retired, I’d vote for you.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:10 PM PST
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  2. Henry Racette Contributor

    I agree: the regular jobs of normal people deserve respect. As William F. Buckley famously observed, I’d rather be governed by the first 2,000 people listed in the American Bartenders’ Association Membership Roster, 2019 Edition than anyone elected by the residents of New York City.

    I enjoyed your post, but will offer two suggestions.

    1. I don’t think we should call her “AOC.” That makes her seem significant, like a movie star or Hollywood celebrity. Regular people have names that consist of more than one word. (Well, present company excepted, of course.)
    2. You didn’t mention that she’s cute. I think we should always mention that she’s cute, since cuteness is the sine qua non of her political success. (Substitute “hot” for “cute,” if you’re into the 30 and under set. I’m not.)

    But back to the bigger point: yes, at least as a bartender, she was adding to the net value of America, rather than subtracting from it.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:17 PM PST
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  3. Blondie Thatcher

    Agreed. I love my bartender. She has my beer ready and on the bar when she sees me walking in from the parking lot. Also, is there a UPS recruitment center on the NCState campus? I can’t tell you how many people I know that worked that same job while going to State. 

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:18 PM PST
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  4. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Stad: I see articles about how this “bartender” ended up getting elected. My personal disdain for her aside, why imply someone who was “merely” a bartender can’t represent her district?

    I certainly don’t see a problem with it.

    Stad: There are times I think I’d make a damn good representative in the House, but my love of sanity, retirement, and reality know better.

    If you promised to continue acting like you were retired, I’d vote for you.

    LO! I am acting like I’m retired! I’m spouting get-of-my-lawn nonsense, expecting people to applaud me for my audacity . . .

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:19 PM PST
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  5. Bishop Wash Member

    I used to include the sing-song “Jimmy Carta, Peanut Farma” in my rantings about the former president. Years ago, Jay Nordlinger told the story that he too used to use that ditty. Then someone explained to him, in a manner similar to your post, that farming shouldn’t be used as a cut against Mr. Carter. Jay stopped using the ditty and I did too after hearing that podcast episode.

    I try to not disparage former jobs of opponents. Thank you for another reminder for why that is.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:24 PM PST
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  6. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I enjoyed your post, but will offer two suggestions.

    1. I don’t think we should call her “AOC.” That makes her seem significant, like a movie star or Hollywood celebrity. Regular people have names that consist of more than one word. (Well, present company excepted, of course.)
    2. You didn’t mention that she’s cute. I think we should always mention that she’s cute, since cuteness is the sine qua non of her political success. (Substitute “hot” for “cute,” if you’re into the 30 and under set. I’m not.)

    I use “AOC” because I’m lazy, and I have carpal tunnel. Sometimes, my finger joints go numb if I type to much.

    I think she’s very pretty, even though I’ve called her “Jaws” when she opens her mouth wide. As for “hot”, I’ll go with it. I’m 63, so I have no qualms about using a term reserved for 30 and under. Why? I’m retired, and don’t give a ****!

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:24 PM PST
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  7. Freeven Member
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    Stad: As for bartending, I’m acquainted with one bartender who became a millionaire. He now owns a bar and several others (along with his wife).

    I thought that kind of thing was illegal.

     

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:33 PM PST
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  8. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I don’t think we should call her “AOC.” That makes her seem significant, like a movie star or Hollywood celebrity. Regular people have names that consist of more than one word. (Well, present company excepted, of course.)

    I’m willing to listen to alternate suggestions that don’t consist of me typing out her full name every time. I’m also willing for one of those suggestions to be that we don’t talk about her.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 2:41 PM PST
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  9. Unsk Member

    Stad, I think you are right. As one who has a small interest in a couple of restaurants a good bartender can be a key to a good business. Perhaps she was a good one, who knows. Her looks probably helped. 

    It’s too bad that her working class kind of job didn’t give her any real empathy for working class folks and the dismal plight her Socialist Democrat Allies have driven them into with their nutcase solutions. Perhaps she had too many shooters too many times and fried her brain. Or did too many drugs. (An occupational hazard of bartenders in hipster joints.)

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    • January 31, 2019, at 3:00 PM PST
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  10. PHCheese Member

    Hey some of my best friends are bartenders. I actually knew an honest one once, I think.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 3:07 PM PST
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  11. Randy Webster Member

    Stad: Let’s not knock the former occupations of the opposition’s people

    Except actors. I think we should knock them every chance we get.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 3:18 PM PST
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  12. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Stad: Actually, it’s also on the left, but let’s bring it up. I see articles about how this “bartender” ended up getting elected. My personal disdain for her aside, why imply someone who was “merely” a bartender can’t represent her district? Next you’ll be saying a Manhattan real estate billionaire can’t be President.

    I object to the characterization of her as a “just a humble bartender” in the first place, given how many activist and organizer positions she held between 2011 and 2018.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez#Early_career

    They may not have all been paid positions, but that’s not really the point. After all, an actor who also tends bar to help pay the bills while they take low-paid acting jobs isn’t “just a bartender”.

    She’s not a bartender who just happened to get elected to Congress. She’s a political activist who tended bar to pay for her real career.

    Unsk (View Comment):
    Stad, I think you are right. As one who has a small interest in a couple of restaurants a good bartender can be a key to a good business. Perhaps she was a good one, who knows.

    If she was that good she would have committed to it instead of treating it as just a way to subsidize her real career.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 3:51 PM PST
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  13. Rōnin Inactive

    I don’t know if I would rate Alexandria as hot, but she is pretty. That being said, I don’t know how well she was at bar tending, but she appears to have a sort of “sparkling” personality that reminds me of a lyric line from Billy Joel’s “Piano Man”:

    “Now John at the bar is a friend of mine
    He gets me my drinks for free
    And he’s quick with a joke or to light up your smoke
    But there’s someplace that he’d rather be”

    In my opinion, good bartenders are like good doctors, lawyers, and auto mechanics – they are few and far between.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 4:02 PM PST
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  14. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I agree: the regular jobs of normal people deserve respect.

    I also agree, however, I respect them more when they commit to that industry as a career.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 4:02 PM PST
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  15. Manny Member

    There’s nothing wrong to having been bartender or any other humble job. If anything that helps her politically. 

    I did love what Andrew Klavan called AOC. Alexandria Occasional-Cortex. ;) That’s a pretty funny pun. And I don’t think it’s below the belt. 

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    • January 31, 2019, at 4:36 PM PST
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  16. TBA Coolidge

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Stad: Let’s not knock the former occupations of the opposition’s people

    Except actors. I think we should knock them every chance we get.

    Yeah, and we need an additional dispensation for sneering at community organizers. 

    Howzabout we get a short list of professions that should disqualify one from being taken seriously for public service? 

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    • January 31, 2019, at 4:52 PM PST
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  17. Full Size Tabby Member

    I agree with your stated point, but she has degrees from prestigious universities in Economics and International Relations. Yet has never had a job in a field remotely related to her fancy-pants education. Presumably she was incapable of getting one. Citing her bartending is not a knock on bartending – it’s a knock on her inability to find useful employment related to her education while she lectures us on topics supposedly related to her education.

    [And she routinely demonstrates her incompetence and ignorance in the very fields of her prestigious university degrees.]

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    • January 31, 2019, at 4:58 PM PST
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  18. Profile Photo Member

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    I agree with your stated point, but she has degrees from prestigious universities in Economics and International Relations. Yet has never had a job in a field remotely related to her fancy-pants education. Presumably she was incapable of getting one. Citing her bartending is not a knock on bartending – it’s a knock on her inability to find useful employment related to her education while she lectures us on topics supposedly related to her education.

    [And she routinely demonstrates her incompetence and ignorance in the very fields of her prestigious university degrees.]

    Nor does she seem to exhibit the wiliness of bartenders, at least not that of those with whom I’ve been acquainted. (On an irregular, casual basis. Just to be clear. Ahem.)

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    • January 31, 2019, at 5:06 PM PST
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  19. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    Nothing wrong tending bar for a few months. The problem is that is the full extent of her experience. Based on what she says (assuming she is not trolling us and pretending to be dumb to get free publicity), she learned nothing in college and BU should be embarrassed. After she gets primaried in 2020 she can go to Harvard with David Hogg and study law. Or, she can be Sec. of Treasury for Pres. Francis “Beto” O’Rourke.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 5:35 PM PST
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  20. kelsurprise, drama queen Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Howzabout we get a short list of professions that should disqualify one from being taken seriously for public service?

    1. Community Organizer
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    • January 31, 2019, at 5:51 PM PST
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  21. Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu Inactive

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I don’t think we should call her “AOC.” That makes her seem significant

    I think we should call her Ms. Cortez, accentuating her possible descent from the eponymous Spanish imperialist conquistador.

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    • January 31, 2019, at 7:27 PM PST
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  22. TBA Coolidge

    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I don’t think we should call her “AOC.” That makes her seem significant

    I think we should call her Ms. Cortez, emphasizing her possible descent from the Spanish imperialist conquistador.

    Or Carla Marx? 

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    • January 31, 2019, at 9:09 PM PST
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  23. cdor Member
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I don’t think we should call her “AOC.” That makes her seem significant, like a movie star or Hollywood celebrity. Regular people have names that consist of more than one word. (Well, present company excepted, of course.)

    I’m willing to listen to alternate suggestions that don’t consist of me typing out her full name every time. I’m also willing for one of those suggestions to be that we don’t talk about her.

    Cortez works just fine.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 7:25 AM PST
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  24. Randy Webster Member

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I don’t think we should call her “AOC.”

    Maybe we could call her aoc.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 8:53 AM PST
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  25. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Stad: As for bartending, I’m acquainted with one bartender who became a millionaire. He now owns a bar and several others (along with his wife).

    I thought that kind of thing was illegal.

     

    I’m wondering what kind of tips he got . . .

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    • February 1, 2019, at 9:05 AM PST
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  26. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Unsk (View Comment):

    Stad, I think you are right. As one who has a small interest in a couple of restaurants a good bartender can be a key to a good business. Perhaps she was a good one, who knows. Her looks probably helped.

    It’s too bad that her working class kind of job didn’t give her any real empathy for working class folks and the dismal plight her Socialist Democrat Allies have driven them into with their nutcase solutions. Perhaps she had too many shooters too many times and fried her brain. Or did too many drugs. (An occupational hazard of bartenders in hipster joints.)

    Maybe she too many old, white, rich geezers proposition her. Too bad. All the seemingly menial jobs I had before I graduated from college prepared me for the “work” part of all my future employment. It also prepared me how to work with other people toward a common goal.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 9:09 AM PST
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  27. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):
    She’s a political activist who tended bar to pay for her real career.

    Lots of folks take on a non-career job to pay the bills until they get “discovered.” Like the song says:

    “And all the stars that never were, are parking cars and pumping gas.”

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    • February 1, 2019, at 9:12 AM PST
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  28. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):
    I also agree, however, I respect them more when they commit to that industry as a career.

    I respect anyone who works hard, whether they intend to make the job they’re doing a career or not. Just sayin’ . . .

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    • February 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM PST
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  29. Freeven Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I don’t think we should call her “AOC.”

    Maybe we could call her aoc.

    I prefer we not talk about her at all, but it seems we must.

    I can’t get used to calling her AOC, however. I’m a big fan of the video game Age of Empires (AOE) and especially its expansion pack, Age of Empires: The Conquerors, which will always be AOC to me. It’s an older game now, but it’s a classic I still find myself returning to.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 10:16 AM PST
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  30. Henry Racette Contributor

    Freeven (View Comment):
    it’s a classic I still find myself returning to.

    Call me a crazy optimist but… I don’t think the same will be said of Rep. Ocasio-Cortez.

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    • February 1, 2019, at 10:23 AM PST
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