We’ve Moved on From Third Trimester Abortion to Straight Up Infanticide

 

In the wake of the ghoulish New York abortion law, there’s fresh horrors out of Virginia in the last twenty-four hours. The first, an actual bill:

What is more ghoulish than this, a baby killed just before it enters the world via birth canal? Virginia Governor Ralph Northam somehow manages to pull off an even more disturbing statement:

At least they’re no longer pretending this is about women’s health anymore. This is a culture of death. Notice how many in the mainstream take note that a Governor of a major state advocating for legalized infanticide.

 

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  1. Postmodern Hoplite Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    it’s going to be really tough to delineate who goes where based on current state boundaries, unless America’s up for some Baltic State-style ethnic cleansing, only with ideological beliefs replacing ethnicity to determine who gets chased or worse out of what areas and why.

    You are correct, of course, but I think we are trending that way nonetheless.

    Here in Washington, the three urban counties of King, Piece and Snohomish would likely seek to split with the rest of the state, assuming that the only things worth keeping are all found in Seattle, Tacoma, Renton and Everett. The rest of the state is just a bunch of ignorant deplorables, anyway. (Probably Olympia and Bellingham would try to tag along with Seattle, since they are lefty college towns…)

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  2. Brian Watt Inactive
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    This is VA Gov. Northam’s Twitter banner. The number of happy children around him pales in comparison to the numbers of children that are and will soon be killed in Virginia if this evil law passes. Northam actively campaigned for governor in numerous abortion clinics. This man was a pediatrician. His bio on Wikipedia shows no religious affiliation. When despots, like Mao, Hussein, Castro, et. al., want to show how messianic they are, they are often depicted surrounded by children. 

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  3. drlorentz Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):
    (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people

    How about saying that because abortion is not always in the interest of actual people, it should be banned?

    They’ve got that covered in point 1: “both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons.” Since they’re not “actual people” there’s no problem.

    Since this view is philosophical and not scientific, how do you go about attacking it from a philosophical point?

    How about that the point is bat-guano crazy? Do we need to address every lunacy of the Left as if it were serious?

    But since you asked, here’s my answer: there is no limiting principle. If you can kill infants arbitrarily, then why not anyone? “I don’t like that guy’s face. Let’s do an after-birth abortion on him, especially since he’s a white male and therefore has White Privilege.” Make up your own wacky reasons for murder. It can be a game on Ricochet: invent reasons to after-birth abort your fellow human, who’s not an actual person after all according to the Aussie moral sages at Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics, Charles Sturt University and University of Melbourne.

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  4. Scott Wilmot Member
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    https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1091051530252365826

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  5. drlorentz Member
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  6. Brian Watt Inactive
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    Meanwhile in Rhode Island (emphasis mine):

    Extreme abortion legislation has been taken up by the Democrat Party at an alarming rate in recent weeks. Aside from New York and Virginia, Rhode Island is currently considering a bill that would allow abortion until birth. During her State of the State address, Catholic Rhode Island Governor Gina Raimondo (D) promised to sign the legislation.

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  7. Miffed White Male Member
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    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    So when my son was born and had trouble breathing we could have just flippantly said, “nah spending a few months commuting to the hospital and taking time off of work, just seems like to much hassle so lets just kill him?”

    It’s not about the kid with a little trouble breathing.  It’s about the kid born with Down’s syndrome that wasn’t detected in advance.  Or other survivable but unpleasant birth defects.

    All those newborns that need expensive surgery?  Once we have single payer, they’ll be too costly to the system.

     

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  8. James Gawron Inactive
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    drlorentz (View Comment):

     

    dr,

    Human Rights..we ain’t got no Human Rights..we don’t need no stinken Human Rights!

    Regards,

    Jim

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  9. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    The thing that really annoys me is that I’ve committed a mortal sin when I don’t go to mass on Sunday.  In a state of mortal sin means I don’t get communion. 

    All of these “Catholic” politicians openly flout the teachings of the church and work against Catholic principles, and that’s cool. No problem.  

    It really makes me angry.  

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  10. Miffed White Male Member
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    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    Reading from a Men’s Rights site, a man named Greg Fultz had a billboard in New Mexico holding a child and proclaiming something along the lines of this would be him if his partner hadn’t killed his baby in the womb.

    “partner”.

     

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  11. Miffed White Male Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    I think I remember hearing that 70% of Down Syndrome babies are aborted in the US……and we’re on the low end of the scale. In Europe, their politicians brag about 99.99-100% rates as a public health goal, which has been achieved in Iceland.

    Yes, the headlines made it sound so nice! Down Syndrome has been eliminated in Iceland!

    But they don’t really tell you the reason, except vaguely . . . (“thanks to prenatal screenings!”)

    Which means . . . we kill these children before they can be born. See? Down Syndrome eliminated! With a happy face!

    Lord, have mercy.

    Iceland has found a Final Solution for Down’s Syndrome.

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  12. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    Reading from a Men’s Rights site, a man named Greg Fultz had a billboard in New Mexico holding a child and proclaiming something along the lines of this would be him if his partner hadn’t killed his baby in the womb.

    “partner”.

     

    I don’t know if the woman was his girlfriend or wife, which is why I used that term, but the quotes would be super appropriate. You’re right to think of the edit, @miffedwhitemale

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  13. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Lois Lane (View Comment):
    Reading from a Men’s Rights site, a man named Greg Fultz had a billboard in New Mexico holding a child and proclaiming something along the lines of this would be him if his partner hadn’t killed his baby in the womb.

    “partner”.

     

     I’ve got a co-worker who had his wife abort their son. I think it has a lot to do with why he got married on the other side of the street for his second go round. 

    He’ll also be the first to agree that it’s a hell of a lot easier to tell your Republican friends that you’re a happily married gay man who loves the second amendment than your gay friends. 

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  14. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    I think I remember hearing that 70% of Down Syndrome babies are aborted in the US……and we’re on the low end of the scale. In Europe, their politicians brag about 99.99-100% rates as a public health goal, which has been achieved in Iceland.

    Yes, the headlines made it sound so nice! Down Syndrome has been eliminated in Iceland!

    But they don’t really tell you the reason, except vaguely . . . (“thanks to prenatal screenings!”)

    Which means . . . we kill these children before they can be born. See? Down Syndrome eliminated! With a happy face!

    Lord, have mercy.

    Iceland has found a Final Solution for Down’s Syndrome.

    What makes it even more pathetic is that Downs isn’t even inheiritable, so they can’t even claim that after having aborted all the “defectives” that the defect has been eliminated, the way that could be done, say, with a screen for Huntington’s or Parkinson’s or Tay Sacs or other diseases caused by genetic defects. 

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  15. Jules PA Inactive
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    So if he has and future political hopes past 2021, like running for Senate, he can’t afford to be indelibly tagged as the Kermit Gosnell of U.S. governors.

    Let’s tag him exactly that. 

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  16. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    President Trump needs to have a screening of Gosnell, inviting relevant cabinet officers and Congressional leaders.

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  17. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Just wondering: Does depraved indifference to human life constitute a grounds for recalling a governor? 

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  18. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    President Trump needs to have a screening of Gosnell, inviting relevant cabinet officers and Congressional leaders.

    The ones who need to see it won’t attend.

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  19. tigerlily Member
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    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    President Trump needs to have a screening of Gosnell, inviting relevant cabinet officers and Congressional leaders.

    The ones who need to see it won’t attend.

    Unfortunately, that’s true.

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  20. Mrs. Ink Inactive
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    What’s important to note is that the VA governor cites cases of extreme fetal deformity when the actual bill in question allows for abortion up to and apparently after birth if the mother claims that her life as a mother could be emotionally stressful. Deformities aren’t the issue. It’s more deception and lies from the Democrat advocates for this horrific bill. Also note, the governor’s statement, that the mother and the physicians would keep the newborn comfortable while they decided whether they wanted to kill it. This is how Democrat empathy works.

    That’s what struck me in Northam’s walk back-the statement that third (and fourth!) trimester abortions only happen in cases of “abnormalities.” Sorry, governor, the bill doesn’t say any thing about abnormalities, and if it isn’t written down, it isn’t the law. What if the “abnormality” is that the kid is the wrong gender? Or has the wrong color hair?

    This is battle space preparation for the Democrats to make killing  “undesirables” or “abnormals” an easier lift. Once you can declare one set of human beings unfit to live, it is easier to declare others abnormal, and therefore unfit to live. What they really want to do is kill or enslave any one who disagrees with them. Abortion is already legal, infanticide is the next step, then old people, mentally ill people, disabled people (all of whom probably cause “mental distress” to some one). Eventually the “abnormal” will include any one who refuses to bow their social justice requirements, and then the killing will really begin, if they can disarm the people.

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  21. Columbo Inactive
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    This is VA Gov. Northam’s Twitter banner. The number of happy children around him pales in comparison to the numbers of children that are and will soon be killed in Virginia if this evil law passes. Northam actively campaigned for governor in numerous abortion clinics. This man was a pediatrician. His bio on Wikipedia shows no religious affiliation. When despots, like Mao, Hussein, Castro, et. al., want to show how messianic they are, they are often depicted surrounded by children.

    And this is Governor Northam’s High School Yearbook ….

    #RememberJudgeKavanaugh

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  22. Max R. P. Grossmann Inactive
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    This is VA Gov. Northam’s Twitter banner. The number of happy children around him pales in comparison to the numbers of children that are and will soon be killed in Virginia if this evil law passes. Northam actively campaigned for governor in numerous abortion clinics. This man was a pediatrician. His bio on Wikipedia shows no religious affiliation. When despots, like Mao, Hussein, Castro, et. al., want to show how messianic they are, they are often depicted surrounded by children.

    And this is Governor Northam’s High School Yearbook ….

    #RememberJudgeKavanaugh

    Since WaPo and HuffPo are now reporting on his yearbook, I’m sure we can expect Democrat leaders and the media—I know I’m repeating myself—to promptly disavow Northam. Right? Right, guys?

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  23. Mrs. Ink Inactive
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    thelonious (View Comment):

    Interesting there were no doctors at the hearing for a law that would significantly change how they can do their jobs. All too busy seeing patients? Golly Gee are they that dedicated to their profession or too embarrassed to attend this abortion of a hearing. The ladies presenting the bill didn’t even have the foresight to research the medical conditions they knew would probably be asked. Watching this I was both horrified and embarrassed for these bozos.

    Governor Northam is a physician, a pediatric neurologist. Being a doctor is no bar to being a bad person-there are any number of doctors who think abortion and euthanasia are just fine, viz. Ezekiel Emanuel and Joseph Mengele.

    They aren’t bozos, they are communists, or maybe fascists, certainly statists, i.e., Democrats. There’s a reason that medical conditions weren’t in the bill, and it isn’t that these people are stupid. They’re evil, not stupid.

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  24. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
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    As with so many other issues , we started out arguing about personhood at conception and now the Overton window has been moved to where we’re arguing about personhood during LABOR! The left is always advancing and we are always retreating.  

    Also I find it revolting the way Democrats always surround themselves with black people as props for pandering purposes and when did Virginia become 80% black? 

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  25. Mrs. Ink Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Nauseating. Literally.

    When will people of good conscience stop voting Democrat? When?

    There are no people of good conscience voting Democrat. They are evil, every last one of them. It’s not like they don’t know what their party represents-they are shouting their abortions from the rooftops, they are openly calling for destroying the United States as founded, and for socialism.

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  26. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    And this is Governor Northam’s High School Yearbook ….

    #RememberJudgeKavanaugh

    I heard it was his med school yearbook.  Also, I can’t believe that story turned out to be real, after all.

    The question is, which one was he?

     

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  27. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Nauseating. Literally.

    When will people of good conscience stop voting Democrat? When?

    There are no people of good conscience voting Democrat. They are evil, every last one of them. It’s not like they don’t know what their party represents-they are shouting their abortions from the rooftops, they are openly calling for destroying the United States as founded, and for socialism.

    I do believe that a large portion of their voter base is simply brainwashed by years of messaging from the media, and I do hesitate to call them evil, rather they promote evil without really thinking about it. Mind control plus social inertia plus laziness in critical thinking (or none at all). Many are waking up, but not enough yet. 

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  28. Western Chauvinist Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    I do believe that a large portion of their voter base is simply brainwashed by years of messaging from the media, and I do hesitate to call them evil, rather they promote evil without really thinking about it. Mind control plus social inertia plus laziness in critical thinking (or none at all). Many are waking up, but not enough yet. 

    Yeah, I have some beloved family in this position. Not evil, just under the sway of the culture (of death). I worry that the reinforcement of moral vanity by the culture will be too much to overcome. There’s a confidence in one’s righteousness (AOC is the poster child) that’s a yuuuuge temptation on the Left (and sometimes on the Right). It’s a very comfortable mental state.

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  29. Mrs. Ink Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    I do believe that a large portion of their voter base is simply brainwashed by years of messaging from the media, and I do hesitate to call them evil, rather they promote evil without really thinking about it. Mind control plus social inertia plus laziness in critical thinking (or none at all). Many are waking up, but not enough yet.

    Yeah, I have some beloved family in this position. Not evil, just under the sway of the culture (of death). I worry that the reinforcement of moral vanity by the culture will be too much to overcome. There’s a confidence in one’s righteousness (AOC is the poster child) that’s a yuuuuge temptation on the Left (and sometimes on the Right). It’s a very comfortable mental state.

    You are correct, both of you, and I am in the same boat with some of my relatives. I take back my blanket condemnation.

    Still, it is infuriating that when you try and talk to them, they say things like “Republicans are racist and hate women,” and won’t listen.

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  30. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    Just wondering: Does depraved indifference to human life constitute a grounds for recalling a governor?

    The people of Virginia get what they vote for, as does the electorate of every state. Let them rise up at the polls in the next election or be damned, in the precise sense of the word.

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