Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. On Tenacity and ‘Tootsie Rolls’: The Battle of Chosin Reservoir

 

Member @cudouglas put up a very moving post recently, “I Cry Over Tootsie Rolls,” that recounts a friend’s family lore and memories around the Battle of Chosin Reservoir [Nov. 27–Dec. 13, 1950] during the Korean War. This wonderful story sent me on a search to learn more. An in-depth documentary: “Chosin Reservoir – Epic of Endurance” deals with expectations being challenged by experience.

As well, the National Museum of the Marine Corps offers virtual tours through its various permanent galleries; and a focus on this battle, in its Korean War gallery.

For those interested in graphic novels and anime drawn from them, here’s “Chosin Trilogy”, yet another point of view on the events of these days.

Thanks for accompanying me on my virtual journey to “The Frozen Chosin.” Tonight, I’ll raise a glass to Gen. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller and all those who exemplified: “Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.” And I’ll have a Tootsie Roll as a chaser.

We Learn and Remember … Semper Fidelis.

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  1. Nanda Panjandrum Inactive
    Nanda Panjandrum

    Please add amplifications, etc. here in the comments…

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    • November 27, 2018, at 11:10 AM PST
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  2. Patrick McClure Coolidge

    Nanda, thanks for the link to CU’s post. I’d missed it when first published. I’ll look at the video after I get home.

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    • November 27, 2018, at 12:07 PM PST
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  3. Rōnin Coolidge

    My father was an alumni of the “The Frozen Chosin”. He joined the Army in 1947 and was assigned to the 25th Infantry Division and deployed to Japan as part of the occupation forces from 1948-1950. He had re-enlisted in early 1950 and considered himself to be a “lifer”, then on 25 Jun 1950, he found himself in a real war. He was front line Army Infantry and involved in every major battle from the breakout of the Pusan Perimeter, to the advance on the Yalu River. He was with the 3d Infantry Division when evacuated from Hungnam Port on 24 December 1950. 

    My father was awarded a Bronze and Silver Star, and Purple Heart with two oak leaves for his service. He passed away in 1975.

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    • November 27, 2018, at 12:38 PM PST
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  4. Nanda Panjandrum Inactive
    Nanda Panjandrum

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    My father was an alumni of the “The Frozen Chosin”. He joined the Army in 1947 and was assigned to the 25th Infantry Division and deployed to Japan as part of the occupation forces from 1948-1950. He had re-enlisted in early 1950 and considered himself to be a “lifer”, then on 25 Jun 1950, he found himself in a real war. He was front line Army Infantry and involved in every major battle from the breakout of the Pusan Perimeter, to the advance on the Yalu River. He was with the 3d Infantry Division when evacuated from Hungnam Port on 24 December 1950.

    My father was awarded a Bronze and Silver Star, and Purple Heart with two oak leaves for his service. He passed away in 1975.

    Thank you, @ronin, for introducing your father to us – for his service, and yours! HooWah, and Semper Fi! 

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    • November 27, 2018, at 1:36 PM PST
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  5. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVey Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Another great post, Nanda. When we need heroes, we hope we’ll always have them. 

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    • November 27, 2018, at 6:01 PM PST
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  6. Steve C. Member

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    My father was an alumni of the “The Frozen Chosin”. He joined the Army in 1947 and was assigned to the 25th Infantry Division and deployed to Japan as part of the occupation forces from 1948-1950. He had re-enlisted in early 1950 and considered himself to be a “lifer”, then on 25 Jun 1950, he found himself in a real war. He was front line Army Infantry and involved in every major battle from the breakout of the Pusan Perimeter, to the advance on the Yalu River. He was with the 3d Infantry Division when evacuated from Hungnam Port on 24 December 1950.

    My father was awarded a Bronze and Silver Star, and Purple Heart with two oak leaves for his service. He passed away in 1975.

    A salute to the oft forgotten men of RCT-31 who suffered almost 50% casualties.

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    • November 27, 2018, at 6:37 PM PST
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  7. Skyler Coolidge

    I have no idea what that video was about. I guess it’s supposed to show how someone felt when the Chinese surprised them?

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    • November 28, 2018, at 3:41 PM PST
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  8. Nanda Panjandrum Inactive
    Nanda Panjandrum

    Skyler (View Comment):

    I have no idea what that video was about. I guess it’s supposed to show how someone felt when the Chinese surprised them?

    Sorry, @skyler . Maybe they were going for a “Radar O’Reilly” vibe? I’d welcome suggestions for something more informative, please/thank you? Appreciate the “votes of confidence” and the continuing conversation. :-)

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    • November 28, 2018, at 4:44 PM PST
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  9. Rōnin Coolidge

    Thanks everyone for all the “likes” of my input. I thought I would pass along another some what funny story about my dad when he was on occupational duties in Japan. As he told it, he should have rotated out of Japan after a one year duty assignment, but life in post-war Japan apparently was really good for U.S.G.I.s. So, he extended for another year, and then another. One day, a general barracks inspection was called, and as the company commander was performing the inspection, the old man noted that my father’s shower sandals were Japanese Getas:

    The company commander then noted that my father’s Getas were well worn, to the point that the raised bottoms were almost worn away. The commander then look at my father and said, “you’ve been here too long private” and my father had his orders for Fort Polk LA. the next day, but the next day North Korea invaded the South, and my father was deployed to Pusan. The point of this parable is, always get out when the getting is good. And just to show you how funny things can turn out, the Army still shipped him to Fort Polk in 1953 after recovering from his wounds in Japan. Talk about adding insult to injury.

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    • November 28, 2018, at 7:18 PM PST
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  10. Nanda Panjandrum Inactive
    Nanda Panjandrum

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Thanks everyone for all the “likes” of my input. I thought I would pass along another some what funny story about my dad when he was on occupational duties in Japan. As he told it, he should have rotated out of Japan after a one year duty assignment, but life in post-war Japan apparently was really good for U.S.G.I.s. So, he extended for another year, and then another. One day, a general barracks inspection was called, and as the company commander was performing the inspection, the old man noted that my father’s shower sandals were Japanese Getas:

    The company commander then noted that my father’s Getas were well worn, to the point that the raised bottoms were almost worn away. The commander then look at my father and said, “you’ve been here too long private” and my father had his orders for Fort Polk LA. the next day, but the next day North Korea invaded the South, and my father was deployed to Pusan. The point of this parable is, always get out when the getting is good. And just to show you how funny things can turn out, the Army still shipped him to Fort Polk in 1953 after recovering from his wounds in Japan. Talk about adding insult to injury.

    True enough, @ronin! They needed to award your father a Broken Heart medal for the sheer *indignity* of that assignment…Really! Thanks so much, again! :-)

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    • November 28, 2018, at 7:40 PM PST
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  11. Robert E. Lee Member
    Robert E. Lee Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    My father was an alumni of the “The Frozen Chosin”. He joined the Army in 1947 and was assigned to the 25th Infantry Division and deployed to Japan as part of the occupation forces from 1948-1950. He had re-enlisted in early 1950 and considered himself to be a “lifer”, then on 25 Jun 1950, he found himself in a real war. He was front line Army Infantry and involved in every major battle from the breakout of the Pusan Perimeter, to the advance on the Yalu River. He was with the 3d Infantry Division when evacuated from Hungnam Port on 24 December 1950.

    My father was awarded a Bronze and Silver Star, and Purple Heart with two oak leaves for his service. He passed away in 1975.

    My father was also army and at the Chosin. Maybe in the same unit

     

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    • November 28, 2018, at 7:58 PM PST
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  12. Skyler Coolidge

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    I have no idea what that video was about. I guess it’s supposed to show how someone felt when the Chinese surprised them?

    Sorry, skyler . Maybe they were going for a “Radar O’Reilly” vibe? I’d welcome suggestions for something more informative, please/thank you? Appreciate the “votes of confidence” and the continuing conversation. :-)

    I dunno. My daughter (not quite 12) came by and asked what it was and I played it for her, thinking it would be educational. Her response was, “I don’t think the Chinese would be monster sized, Dad.” I guess we weren’t ready for the surrealism.

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    • November 28, 2018, at 8:29 PM PST
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  13. Skyler Coolidge

    Rōnin (View Comment):

    Thanks everyone for all the “likes” of my input. I thought I would pass along another some what funny story about my dad when he was on occupational duties in Japan. As he told it, he should have rotated out of Japan after a one year duty assignment, but life in post-war Japan apparently was really good for U.S.G.I.s. So, he extended for another year, and then another. One day, a general barracks inspection was called, and as the company commander was performing the inspection, the old man noted that my father’s shower sandals were Japanese Getas:

    The company commander then noted that my father’s Getas were well worn, to the point that the raised bottoms were almost worn away. The commander then look at my father and said, “you’ve been here too long private” and my father had his orders for Fort Polk LA. the next day, but the next day North Korea invaded the South, and my father was deployed to Pusan. The point of this parable is, always get out when the getting is good. And just to show you how funny things can turn out, the Army still shipped him to Fort Polk in 1953 after recovering from his wounds in Japan. Talk about adding insult to injury.

    I’ve been to Fort Polk. It’s not a bad base for some reserve training. It has a nice rifle range. But I wouldn’t want to be stationed there. :)

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    • November 28, 2018, at 8:32 PM PST
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  14. Skyler Coolidge

    Rōnin (View Comment):
    the old man noted that my father’s shower sandals were Japanese Getas:

    I’ve been in many barracks where the showers don’t drain well. Standing above the water line looks like a great idea.

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    • November 28, 2018, at 8:35 PM PST
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  15. Nanda Panjandrum Inactive
    Nanda Panjandrum

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    I have no idea what that video was about. I guess it’s supposed to show how someone felt when the Chinese surprised them?

    Sorry, skyler . Maybe they were going for a “Radar O’Reilly” vibe? I’d welcome suggestions for something more informative, please/thank you? Appreciate the “votes of confidence” and the continuing conversation. :-)

    I dunno. My daughter (not quite 12) came by and asked what it was and I played it for her, thinking it would be educational. Her response was, “I don’t think the Chinese would be monster sized, Dad.” I guess we weren’t ready for the surrealism.

    My first thoughts, as well, but perhaps the ‘graphic novel’ it’s based on dictated some of that…The Museum’s “immersive experience” film in the Korean War gallery is powerful; I’ll try and link it directly, instead, if I can…If not, is there something you’d recommend?

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    • November 28, 2018, at 8:53 PM PST
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  16. Skyler Coolidge

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    I have no idea what that video was about. I guess it’s supposed to show how someone felt when the Chinese surprised them?

    Sorry, skyler . Maybe they were going for a “Radar O’Reilly” vibe? I’d welcome suggestions for something more informative, please/thank you? Appreciate the “votes of confidence” and the continuing conversation. :-)

    I dunno. My daughter (not quite 12) came by and asked what it was and I played it for her, thinking it would be educational. Her response was, “I don’t think the Chinese would be monster sized, Dad.” I guess we weren’t ready for the surrealism.

    My first thoughts, as well, but perhaps the ‘graphic novel’ it’s based on dictated some of that…The Museum’s “immersive experience” film in the Korean War gallery is powerful; I’ll try and link it directly, instead, if I can…If not, is there something you’d recommend?

    No, not really. I didn’t realize it was from a graphic novel. That explains it. It’s not that I didn’t like it, it’s just that it was something that required thinking about.

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    • November 28, 2018, at 9:12 PM PST
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  17. Nanda Panjandrum Inactive
    Nanda Panjandrum

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    I have no idea what that video was about. I guess it’s supposed to show how someone felt when the Chinese surprised them?

    Sorry, skyler . Maybe they were going for a “Radar O’Reilly” vibe? I’d welcome suggestions for something more informative, please/thank you? Appreciate the “votes of confidence” and the continuing conversation. :-)

    I dunno. My daughter (not quite 12) came by and asked what it was and I played it for her, thinking it would be educational. Her response was, “I don’t think the Chinese would be monster sized, Dad.” I guess we weren’t ready for the surrealism.

    My first thoughts, as well, but perhaps the ‘graphic novel’ it’s based on dictated some of that…The Museum’s “immersive experience” film in the Korean War gallery is powerful; I’ll try and link it directly, instead, if I can…If not, is there something you’d recommend?

    No, not really. I didn’t realize it was from a graphic novel. That explains it. It’s not that I didn’t like it, it’s just that it was something that required thinking about.

    I was concerned that you thought it minimizing, or lacking in respect; the last thing I would’ve wanted. I’ll add some context above…Thanks for the feedback!

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    • November 28, 2018, at 9:30 PM PST
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  18. Rōnin Coolidge

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    I have no idea what that video was about. I guess it’s supposed to show how someone felt when the Chinese surprised them?

    Sorry, skyler . Maybe they were going for a “Radar O’Reilly” vibe? I’d welcome suggestions for something more informative, please/thank you? Appreciate the “votes of confidence” and the continuing conversation. :-)

    I dunno. My daughter (not quite 12) came by and asked what it was and I played it for her, thinking it would be educational. Her response was, “I don’t think the Chinese would be monster sized, Dad.” I guess we weren’t ready for the surrealism.

    My first thoughts, as well, but perhaps the ‘graphic novel’ it’s based on dictated some of that…The Museum’s “immersive experience” film in the Korean War gallery is powerful; I’ll try and link it directly, instead, if I can…If not, is there something you’d recommend?

    No, not really. I didn’t realize it was from a graphic novel. That explains it. It’s not that I didn’t like it, it’s just that it was something that required thinking about.

    I kind of thought it was from a graphic comic book or something similar as well. There are some good Chosin Reservoir documentaries out there (just do a simple google search), I guess using the graphic novel technique will bring in a younger audience. My father said the best Hollywood film about the Korean War is Samuel Fuller’s “The Steel Helmethttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044072/

    It was released to theaters while the war was still going on.

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    • November 29, 2018, at 10:33 AM PST
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  19. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Thank you so much. Fascinating.

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    • November 29, 2018, at 9:12 PM PST
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