Eliminating Islamic Terror

 

Image result for canariesIn Israel, when prospects for peace are discussed, you sometimes hear the following appraisal of reality: “If the Arabs laid down their arms, there would be no more wars. If the Jews laid down their arms, there would be no more Jews.”

By extension, it is not a stretch to say that if the Western world retreated in its war against Islamic terror, the Western world would soon cease to exist.

Canaries in the Coal Mine

Israel has often been likened to the proverbial canary in the coal mine. There was a time when miners brought caged canaries into their mines in order to detect carbon monoxide and other poisonous gases. As long as the canaries chirped, the miners were safe. When the chirping stopped, it meant the miners’ lives were in danger.

Israelis are among the happiest people on earth but their chirping was interrupted from 2000-2003 when 1,200 Israelis were murdered by terrorists, a killing spree that made a shambles of the Oslo Accords, which were supposed to bring about peace in exchange for land surrendered by Israel. Instead, Oslo became synonymous with a wholesale slaughter of Jews that was only halted when a border wall was constructed that prevented terrorist infiltration. Since Israel’s disengagement from Gaza in 2005, thousands of missiles have been fired into Israel from that territory, leading to major conflicts with Hamas, the terrorist organization that rules Gaza, in 2012 and 2014.

Israel’s experience has proven that concessions to terrorists only embolden them.

What Happens in Israel Does not Stay in Israel

Long before terrorist bombs were detonating in Europe, long before the Twin Towers fell, Israelis had been subjected to terrorist attacks. In the midst of these attacks, the world often blamed the victim, as the primary preoccupation of the United Nations, over the years, has been to censure Israel. Now that much of the world is under constant terrorist threat, the realization is finally beginning to dawn that the problem Israel faces is the problem faced by the world at large.

The threat to wipe Israel off the map is ultimately a threat to wipe all non-Islamic peoples off the map, too.

What happens in Israel does not stay in Israel. What happens in Israel, sooner or later, happens everywhere else. Missiles like those that are fired into Israel today will be fired into Europe and America tomorrow, unless . . .

How to Eliminate Islamic Terror

Here are some suggestions which, if they were adopted altogether, would go a long way towards eliminating Islamic terror.

1) Acknowledge that “radical Islam” is a misnomer, that the religion of Islam is radical at its core. The idea of a more tolerant Islam, brought about by some sort of internal Reformation, is absurd. Islam is based on the subjugation of non-Moslems. Take away that principle, and Islam ceases to be Islam.

2) Acknowledge that the war against Islamic terrorists is a zero-sum game. Either they win or we win.

3) Since Islamic terrorist regimes are held in check solely by force, the West must be constantly prepared to utilize force, either to punish or to deter terrorist acts.

4) Create an international hit squad, a Captain America battalion of sorts, whose purpose is to topple dangerous Islamic regimes. We’re not talking about long term wars here. The idea is to conduct surgical missions that would last only a few hours but take out (capture or kill) the leaders. Even a joint American-Israeli force of sufficient size could probably achieve the desired result. Hit squad raids to remove the mullahs who rule Iran, as well as the Syrian dictator Assad and the chieftains of Hamas and Hezbollah, would be a good place to start. And while these special forces are at it, they may as well remove North Korea’s and Venezuela’s tyrants, too. 

5) Institute surveillance of all mosques in Europe and the US.

6) Eliminate university Middle Eastern Studies departments. These departments are nothing but propaganda mills that whitewash Islam and inculcate animosity towards Israel.

7) Make no concessions where Islamic customs or Sharia are concerned. Each allowance granted, from hijab head wear to female genital mutilation (approved recently by an American judge), results in more demands. Immediately after the new Moslem member of Congress had her request to wear a hijab approved, she made it clear that “this is not the last ban I’m going to work to lift.”

8) Before being allowed a visa, as a prelude to eventual citizenship, potential immigrants from Moslem countries would be asked this question: What is your view of Israel and the Jews who live there? Based on the answer to this question, a visa would be granted (if response was positive) or denied (if response was negative).

9) Educate your children to believe in G-d and instruct them in the power of prayer to remove evil from the world. Yes, a willingness to go to war, since our survival is at stake, is necessary but heavenly assistance is needed in this struggle, too. Although Islam is a fake faith since it holds suicide bombers in high esteem and advocates for genocide, there is still the element of fighting fire with fire, of fighting their strongly held beliefs — although false — with our own. Those with a muddled sense of good and evil will not prevail in the war against Islamic terror.

Keep Those Canaries Singing

Any other suggestions? Eliminating Islamic terror is the major issue of our time even though nobody talks about it all that much. We are still more reactive than pro-active in this arena and, in my darker moments, I sometimes wonder how many more towers will have to fall before we finally do what needs to be done to make sure that the canaries keep on singing their happy tunes.

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  1. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu: 4) Create an international anti-terrorist battalion whose purpose is to topple dangerous Islamic regimes. Even a joint American-Israeli force of sufficient size could probably achieve the desired result. Batallion raids to capture or kill the mullahs who rule Iran, as well as the Syrian dictator Assad and the chieftains of Hamas and Hezbollah, would be a good place to start. And while these special forces are at it, they may as well topple North Korea’s tyrant, too.

    That didn’t work too well the last time. 

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  2. Henry Castaigne Member
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  3. iWe Coolidge
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    The sentiments are fine. The solutions need a very healthy dose of creative work. This is Ricochet, not the place to recycle tired and failed ideas. 

    Here is one to get things going… Instead of cornering bad guys and forcing them to dig in and fight, why not give them a guaranteed escape hatch, like a St Helena where they can live out their days in isolated wealth?

     

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  4. iWe Coolidge
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    Also, don’t make this about faith. Make it about the creed of supremacy. The forces of liberty stand for freedom of worship. The forces of evil insist that they not only are right  but that all others must be wrong, and subjugated. As long as people tolerate others, they are not the sworn enemy of the good.

    There are strains of Islam that do not threaten others. We have no beef with them.

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  5. iWe Coolidge
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    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu: ) Since Islamic terrorist regimes are held in check solely by force

    Not so. They are competing in the world of ideas. And so they are held in check by what they hate most of all… Humor. 

    We can establish and grow cities of refuge. 

    We can outflank Islamic Supremacy by changing the incentives. Force is an option, of course. But it is not a good one most of the time. 

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  6. Zafar Member
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    iWe (View Comment):

    There are strains of Islam that do not threaten others. We have no beef with them.

    India. Takes. Issue.

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  7. Henry Castaigne Member
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    iWe (View Comment):
    There are strains of Islam that do not threaten others. We have no beef with them

    Sufis, Twelvers and Amadiyaa Muslims don’t blow stuff up and the terrorists hate them more than they hate Christians. I agree that we have no beef (and no pork) with them.

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  8. Scott Wilmot Member
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    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu: 1) Acknowledge that “radical Islam” is a misnomer, that the religion of Islam is radical at its core. The idea of a more tolerant Islam, brought about by some sort of internal Reformation, is absurd. Islam is based on the subjugation of non-Moslems. Take away that principle, and Islam ceases to be Islam.

    This is the key, but I would go further. Acknowledge that Islam is not just a religion, but a radical political ideology that denies freedom – they both go hand in hand. Of course, this ties in with your point #7.

    I find it shameful that my Catholic Church keeps trying to “dialogue” with Islam. Dialogue is useless if one does not understand who one is dialoguing with. The Church fails to try to understand Islam as Muslims understand it, and not as we would like it to be. Pope Francis and other Church leaders prefer to look at Islam through Catholic eyes and have therefore convinced themselves that the two faiths have very much in common, and this leads to a false understanding of Islam. For instance, the pope writes this in Evangelii Gaudium (253):

    Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.

    What Islam and the Bible have in common is very little when it comes to doctrine and only with the greatest stretch of the imagination can we say that Muslims believe in the same God as Christians and Jews. As a result, the dialogue is without resolution because there is precious little common ground. A good start here would be to rewrite CCC 841. (What is written takes a lot of exegesis for it to make any sense at all)

    Islam wants you to submit, live as a slave under Islam, or be killed – simple as that.

    One additional element that needs to be addressed is the failure of the West to understand Muslim migration. We must come to see that large numbers of young and mostly male Muslims that migrate to Western countries do so not simply because they are poor or have been expelled from their home countries, but that they are there to expand Islam. The purpose of Muslim expansion is not to assimilate into a new nation and culture but rather to change it so that it conforms to Muslim ways. This is a huge problem in Europe.

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  9. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    iWe (View Comment):
    don’t make this about faith

    I agree with this premise, because I’m a Christian.  Muslims disagree, because they’re Muslim.  

    And that creates a problem, which we are foolish to ignore. 

    To Muslims, this IS about faith.  You and I might find that distasteful.  That’s too bad.  

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  10. I Walton Member
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    Toppling hostile governments doesn’t work out well.    We should have more modest goals.  1.Normalize relations so we have a greater intelligence and information gathering presence.  And see if we can’t return our intelligence operations to reasonable competence.

    2.  Kill individual enemy leaders who support terrorist activities if  necessary.

    3.  Give no visas of any kind to people with any ties to terrorists.  Ties should be defined very broadly, i.e. attend hostile mosques, have relatives with ties to any of the hostile groups and the burden should be on the visa applicant to prove the negative that they aren’t hostile, don’t support sharia law, or terrorism in any form.    

    Islam hasn’t changed or moderated in over a thousand years. It produces babies but not much else and it won’t go away.   We are not capable of managing some kind of cultural transformation, nor running Islamic countries, nor managing the chaos that would ensue were we to topple governments.    Our cultures are not compatible, they don’t acculturate even the majority who would never blow up non Moslems.  Quarantine is a better policy, and it doesn’t have to be explicit.

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  11. WillowSpring Member
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    Undo the Obama administration work that whitewashed all references to radical Islam in DOD training materials.

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  12. iWe Coolidge
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    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):
    Islam wants you to submit, live as a slave under Islam, or be killed – simple as that.

    This is largely right – but it is NOT universally true. As such, we are doing good people a disservice by misrepresenting it.

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  13. iWe Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    Dr. Bastiat  

    iWe (View Comment):
    don’t make this about faith

    I agree with this premise, because I’m a Christian. Muslims disagree, because they’re Muslim.

    And that creates a problem, which we are foolish to ignore. 

    To Muslims, this IS about faith. You and I might find that distasteful. That’s too bad.

    My point is about how to combat Islam – it is foolish to accept battle on the enemy’s terms.

    We can readily outflank Islam – using positive role model cities, as well as ridicule and humor. Instead of killing, we can ridicule, shame, and embarrass. It is what they fear most.

     

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  14. Scott Wilmot Member
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    iWe (View Comment):

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):
    Islam wants you to submit, live as a slave under Islam, or be killed – simple as that.

    This is largely right – but it is NOT universally true. As such, we are doing good people a disservice by misrepresenting it.

    I was referencing what Islam teaches. There may be heretical muslims – the good people you mention, but that is what the Koran teaches. And that is the mistake I was pointing out that the Church makes.

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  15. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    iWe (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    Dr. Bastiat

    iWe (View Comment):
    don’t make this about faith

    I agree with this premise, because I’m a Christian. Muslims disagree, because they’re Muslim.

    And that creates a problem, which we are foolish to ignore.

    To Muslims, this IS about faith. You and I might find that distasteful. That’s too bad.

    My point is about how to combat Islam – it is foolish to accept battle on the enemy’s terms.

    We can readily outflank Islam – using positive role model cities, as well as ridicule and humor. Instead of killing, we can ridicule, shame, and embarrass. It is what they fear most.

     

    Oh, I see your point.  I missed part of that before.  Sorry about that.

    I’m still unconvinced that we can finesse this.  But I really hope you’re right.

    And while you’re right that it is better not to accept the battle on the enemy’s terms, there are times when you have no other choice.  This battle wouldn’t BE a battle if it were on our terms.  I think we may be stuck in a religious war. 

    Again, I really hope you’re right about this, and I’m wrong. 

    Because if I’m right, we’ve got a real mess on our hands, with no easy way out that I can see.

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  16. Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu Inactive
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    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):
    One additional element that needs to be addressed is the failure of the West to understand Muslim migration. We must come to see that large numbers of young and mostly male Muslims that migrate to Western countries do so not simply because they are poor or have been expelled from their home countries, but that they are there to expand Islam. The purpose of Muslim expansion is not to assimilate into a new nation and culture but rather to change it so that it conforms to Muslim ways. This is a huge problem in Europe.

    I was going to mention something about that, together with the following question that passport control agents might want to ask potential immigrants from Moslem countries:  What is your view of Israel and the Jews who live there?  Visa would be granted (if response was positive) or denied (if response was negative) based on the answer to this question.  It was irksome, if not entirely unexpected when, after taking billions of American dollars, the fledgling post-Saddam Hussein Iraqi government quickly came out with an anti-Israel policy statement.

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    Zafar (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    There are strains of Islam that do not threaten others. We have no beef with them.

    India. Takes. Issue.

    Here’s the problem – the strains of Islam that do not threaten don’t do anything about the elements of Islam that do threaten – and they are threatening every region of the world with violence and killing.  Christianity is being eliminated – so they are in the coal mine too.  If you had a “segment” of Christianity or a “segment” of Judaism or a “segment” of Buddhism that was terrorizing every continent, wouldn’t the “majority” of the peaceful members get control of this?  It’s been like this within the history of Islam for centuries and has gotten worse.  Nothing changes.

    This post speaks the truth – as ugly as it is.  However, only suggestion number eight will work – because the world has turned a deaf ear to wisdom, and has a double standard for peace and “political correctness”.  Right is wrong today and visa versa.  The post comment that if the Judaeo-Christian western world (what’s left of it) gives up this battle, the results will be as stated.

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  18. I Walton Member
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    The same government that runs Obama care, the EPA, the DOE etc. that spent trillions in the war on poverty and foreign aid and left almost all worse off,  is the one we expect to engage broadly and effectively with millions of Muslims in dozens of countries where we don’t speak the languages nor have broad understanding in order to affect some kind of cultural transformation? How can conservatives even consider such approaches.  

    When we must go to war we have capable trained people who can destroy, crush, kill, topple win, but transforming deep cultures that haven’t changed in over a thousand years  in spite of their failure in everything except spreading Islam and making babies is crazy.  We’re going to do this by deploying bureaucrats  with check books? Quarantine should be our approach.   

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  19. Columbo Inactive
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    “If the Arabs laid down their arms, there would be no more wars. If the Jews laid down their arms, there would be no more Jews.”

    Regardless of the existence of good people of the Muslim ‘faith’ whom we have no “beef” with, does anyone disagree with this statement?

    We are all infidels to be killed or enslaved. The Jewish people are merely first in line.

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  20. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I disagree with one of your fundamental premises, Yehoshua. It makes life easy to generalize that essentially all Islam is radical; then we don’t have to deal with the fact that some people are not. I think of M. Zuhdi Jasser with the American Islamic Forum for Democracy. He’s worked very hard to establish himself as a moderate Muslim and has been consistently demonstrated his love for America (including his service in the US Navy). Are there a lot of people like him? I don’t know. But those who support him and his ideas shouldn’t be whitewashed as radical, either. Will they be able to modify Islam? I have my doubts. But we must acknowledge them for their sincerity and their work. I can deal with the paradox of Islam being fundamentally radical and that some Muslims genuinely are not. What do we do about that? That is our challenge in a country that honors freedom of religion.

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    iWe (View Comment):
    we can ridicule, shame, and embarrass. It is what they fear most.

    I wish you were right about this, buy I am sure you remember what happened in Paris when the purveyors of satirical humor regarding Mohammed were gunned down in their offices.  This put an immediate end to any jokes made publicly at the expense of Islam.

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    There is no such thing as a “peace process”.  Peace must be won, in battle, and the victor sets the terms.  Israel can win, and should, starting today.  

    I have always believed that Islam, as such is Evil.  There can be no compromise with Evil-it must be destroyed.

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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):
    There are strains of Islam that do not threaten others. We have no beef with them

    Sufis, Twelvers and Amadiyaa Muslims don’t blow stuff up and the terrorists hate them more than they hate Christians. I agree that we have no beef (and no pork) with them.

    While Wahhabis hate Sufis and Sufi schools in the West are quietist, Sufis of various schools and their spinoffs were central to bloody revolts agains the British and French; the leader of the Mahdi Revolt was a Sufi.

    And Twelvers? They don’t blow people up?  Twelvers run Iran. For just one example, the Iranian regime trained and ran the Hizbollah “terrorists” who killed 85 people and injured hundreds of others in Buenos Aires.

    The Ahmadiyya Muslims are not such a problem. A tiny minority in the Muslim world, they are often apologist spokespeople for Islam though they are viewed as kafir, or at best heretics, by most if not all normative schools of Muslim jurisprudence.

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  24. Zafar Member
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    iWe (View Comment):

    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu: ) Since Islamic terrorist regimes are held in check solely by force

    Not so. They are competing in the world of ideas. And so they are held in check by what they hate most of all… Humor.

    But to work it really has to be funny.

     

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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    There is no such thing as a “peace process”. Peace must be won, in battle, and the victor sets the terms. Israel can win, and should, starting today.

    Sure there is. You’re just spelling it wrong. Per Arafat, it’s a piece process. It’s for dismantling Israel piece by piece.

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    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu: 4) Create an international anti-terrorist battalion whose purpose is to topple dangerous Islamic regimes.

    “international” means “incapacitated”.

    You need far more than a battalion to topple a regime.

    Toppling a regime is counterproductive until you first destroy the more malign forces that would fill the vacuum. That was the insanity of Obama. There were worse people waiting to take over in Egypt, Libya, Syria…

    Potentially the same with GWB in Iraq, where Iran was waiting to fill the vacuum. But my assumption is that he originally intended to deal with Iran, but that went awry when western Iraq fell apart due to our inability to move in from Turkey.

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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    There is no such thing as a “peace process”. Peace must be won, in battle, and the victor sets the terms. Israel can win, and should, starting today.

    Sure there is. You’re just spelling it wrong. Per Arafat, it’s a piece process. It’s for dismantling Israel piece by piece.

    And what has changed? If there are peaceful elements of Islam, they are not in charge of the peace process.  Let’s go back to Arafat, who GWB would not deal with, and fast forward to present day – what has changed?  Land for peace did not work – ceasefires don’t work – education doesn’t seem to work.  I do not understand why, when leaders in Iran, and the Palestinians will not acknowledge Israel’s right to even be there, where they will negotiate, but their idea is keep taking land until there is a microdot left, easier to push into the sea.

    When all the countries surrounding Israel are mainly Muslim, why can’t they get together and eradicate violence within this ideology? Maybe because it’s not in the belief system – it’s in fact justified.  These countries could have been part of a peace plan – but nothing works. Now we have Russia saying – oh wait – we can help with this!  Let’s have the fox guarding the hen house.  These are scary times, and the Bible warns of it – there are so many examples.

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  28. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    ctlaw (View Comment):

    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu: 4) Create an international anti-terrorist battalion whose purpose is to topple dangerous Islamic regimes.

    “international” means “incapacitated”.

    You need far more than a battalion to topple a regime.

    Toppling a regime is counterproductive until you first destroy the more malign forces that would fill the vacuum. That was the insanity of Obama. There were worse people waiting to take over in Egypt, Libya, Syria…

    Potentially the same with GWB in Iraq, where Iran was waiting to fill the vacuum. But my assumption is that he originally intended to dal with Iran, but that went awry when western Iraq fell apart due to our inability to move in from Turkey.

    The whole GWOT thing was ridiculous. You might as well say that the Cold War was a war against Communist spies in the US. 

    Terror is a tactic. The Muslim Brotherhood’s gradualism is a tactic. 

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    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):
    I was referencing what Islam teaches. There may be heretical muslims – the good people you mention, but that is what the Koran teaches. And that is the mistake I was pointing out that the Church makes.

    It is pure Chutzpah to tell someone else what their holy books mean.

    I’ll accept that Al Qaeda represents their form of Islam, and Ibadis have theirs. One is violent; one is not.

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  30. iWe Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    Yehoshua Ben-Eliyahu: ) Since Islamic terrorist regimes are held in check solely by force

    Not so. They are competing in the world of ideas. And so they are held in check by what they hate most of all… Humor.

    But to work it really has to be funny.

     

    No. It just has to make them see red.

    You say Islam lacks a sense of humor? That is an outright lie. I KILL YOU.

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