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  1. Columbo Inactive
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    Um … Michael … your anti-Trumpy bias is showing. It diminishes your talent. Overreach is neither funny or truth.

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  2. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Um … Michael … your anti-Trumpy bias is showing. It diminishes your talent. Overreach is neither funny or truth.

    I’m not one who is going to call for Trump to stop tweeting, but this was funny. 

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  3. James Gawron Inactive
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Michael,

    Isn’t this absurd. Trump’s tweets are the big problem, not a party where everybody is a maverick as long as a near Marxist press will flatter your ego for it. We need to start talking about fantasy conservatives. They are perfectly conservative but they never need to win an election. Not the House, not the Senate, not the Presidency. Their job is to find trivial flaws, exaggerate them, bask in the collective glow of a perverse media, and then go home with a large paycheck. They wouldn’t be caught dead with anybody so crass as a member of the dreaded Tea Party. You know, the people who through their hard work won the House for the Republicans in the first place.

    Trump tweets because, of the 50 members of the White House Press Corps, there isn’t a single registered Republican. Other than his tweets it’s Jim Acosta all the way down.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  4. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    James Gawron (View Comment):
    Trump tweets because, of the 50 members of the White House Press Corps, there isn’t a single registered Republican. Other than his tweets it’s Jim Acosta all the way down.

    This is true enough, but at the same time I don’t want to be like the feminist in the joke, “How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb.” 

    As for which is more important, Trump’s tweets or the House of Representatives, I’d say it’s a close call. 

    Maybe the Democrats can make the House relevant again, and then the Republicans can take it back. Because they sure weren’t on track to make it relevant on their own. 

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  5. James Gawron Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):
    Trump tweets because, of the 50 members of the White House Press Corps, there isn’t a single registered Republican. Other than his tweets it’s Jim Acosta all the way down.

    This is true enough, but at the same time I don’t want to be like the feminist in the joke, “How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb.”

    As for which is more important, Trump’s tweets or the House of Representatives, I’d say it’s a close call.

    Maybe the Democrats can make the House relevant again, and then the Republicans can take it back. Because they sure weren’t on track to make it relevant on their own.

    Ret,

    What makes you think that if Trump had stopped tweeting we wouldn’t have lost the House. If Trump had stopped tweeting we might have lost more House seats and lost the Senate too. It is a conceit to imagine that the near Marxist media wouldn’t find some other trivial thing to inflate into the crime of the century. By repeating Trump’s tweets the media runs the risk of losing 3 voters to Trump for every 2 voters they pick up by criticizing. Of course, the adults left in the room are actually interested in the results of policy, not 160 character semi-literate bloviations. When you look at the real results of policy Obama is a disaster and so far Trump is doing pretty good. The media is never going to cover that.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    James Gawron (View Comment):
    What makes you think that if Trump had stopped tweeting we wouldn’t have lost the House.

    What makes you think that I think that?  

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  7. James Gawron Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):
    What makes you think that if Trump had stopped tweeting we wouldn’t have lost the House.

    What makes you think that I think that?

    Ret,

    Then sorry I didn’t understand what you said. It happens.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  8. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Trump and the Trumpified portion of the Republican Party doesn’t want to get it.  The American people don’t want Trump, nor do they want any Mini-Trump’s.  Arizonans will keep voting against Trump Republicans until they are gone.  I hope that there will be something after of the party after all the Trump Acolytes are defeated.  If not, then kill the party and start a new party.  

    Arizona had not elected a Democrat for a statewide Office for ten years.  This year, Arizona elected four statewide Democrats, for Senate, Secretary of State, Superintendent of Public Instruction, and Corporation Commission.  I, a Reagan Republican, voted for three of them.  (I voted for Republican Martha McSally for Senator; I was fully radicalized by the mistreatment of Kavanaugh.)

    The Republican Candidate for Secretary of State, Steve Gaynor, ran as “the Authentic Trump Candidate.”  I did not hesitate to vote against him, and I will never vote for him.  

    On the other hand, I voted for Republican Doug Ducey for Governor as he had a record before Trump.  Ducey won in the greatest landslide of any of the statewide candidate.  

    I also voted for Republican Kimberly Yee for State Treasurer, as she had a record in the legislature before Trump.  I also don’t recall her ever showing up at a Trump Rally.  

    I hope that prospective Republican Primary candidates get the message.  Don’t try to run in a general election if you have the “Mark of Trump” on you.  Trump is not a stain on candidates, it is a permanent tattoo.  

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  9. Stina Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    This is true enough, but at the same time I don’t want to be like the feminist in the joke, “How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb.” 

    As for which is more important, Trump’s tweets or the House of Representatives, I’d say it’s a close call. 

    Mocking Trump tweets, I feel, are fair game.

    I like em, many don’t, but humor requires a bit of truth.

    Where this cartoon fails for me are the normal results of a midterm election being characterized as a wave.

    The gains in the house were pretty average. The Senate has me concerned with the recounts, but not unusual. The 2016 gains lost were not really conservative- they were blue collar dems. To suddenly expect an Trump-resistant contingent of Republicans to solidify those gains was absolute pie-in-the-sky thinking.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump and the Trumpified portion of the Republican Party doesn’t want to get it. The American people don’t want Trump, nor do they want any Mini-Trump’s.

    And Establishment Republicans don’t seem to get why we had to have Trump.  They have nobody but themselves to blame for Trump.

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  11. Front Seat Cat Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Um … Michael … your anti-Trumpy bias is showing. It diminishes your talent. Overreach is neither funny or truth.

    I’m not one who is going to call for Trump to stop tweeting, but this was funny.

    Columbo  lighten up – After reading Dave Sussman’s astonishing post, I needed a laugh and this was funny – he always nails the hair!

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  12. Kay of MT Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump and the Trumpified portion of the Republican Party doesn’t want to get it. The American people don’t want Trump, nor do they want any Mini-Trump’s.

    I think, you obviously have no understanding of the average American Conservatives, who are absolutely sick of the Democrats and the NEVER TRUMPERS. My daughter has been to several rallys and reports tens of thousands attending, and most don’t even get into the venues, they get to watch from outside. They stand for 7 – 9 hours to listen to President Trump’s speeches. And you have the audacity, a never Trump, to make a determination that “The American People” don’t want Trump?

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    This is true enough, but at the same time I don’t want to be like the feminist in the joke, “How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb.”

    As for which is more important, Trump’s tweets or the House of Representatives, I’d say it’s a close call.

    Mocking Trump tweets, I feel, are fair game.

    I like em, many don’t, but humor requires a bit of truth.

    Where this cartoon fails for me are the normal results of a midterm election being characterized as a wave.

    The gains in the house were pretty average. The Senate has me concerned with the recounts, but not unusual. The 2016 gains lost were not really conservative- they were blue collar dems. To suddenly expect an Trump-resistant contingent of Republicans to solidify those gains was absolute pie-in-the-sky thinking.

    Holy cow.  Losing almost 40 house seats is certainly a wave, especially when we lose almost 40 house seats.  We lost seats that we had held for many years, like AZ-2, CA-25, CA-48, CA-49, CO-6, FL-26, FL-27, GA-6, IL-6, IL-14, IA-1, IA-3, KS-3, MI-6, MI-11, MN-2, MN-3, NJ-2, NJ-7, NJ-11, NM-2, NY-11, NY-19, OK-5, PA-5, PA-6, PA-7, PA-17, SC-1, TX-7, TX-32, UT-4, VA-2, VA-7, VA-10, and WA-8.  What did the Democrats lose?  One seat:  MN-8.

    Arizona had not voted for a Democrat for the Senate for 30 years.  We did so last Tuesday.

    America is sending us a huge message about Trump.  If we hear that message, we can win back those traditional Republican districts.  But if we ignore Americans, just wait until next election!

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  14. Gary Robbins Member
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    @GaryRobbins

    Kay of MT (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump and the Trumpified portion of the Republican Party doesn’t want to get it. The American people don’t want Trump, nor do they want any Mini-Trump’s.

    I think, you obviously have no understanding of the average American Conservatives, who are absolutely sick of the Democrats and the NEVER TRUMPERS. My daughter has been to several rallys and reports tens of thousands attending, and most don’t even get into the venues, they get to watch from outside. They stand for 7 – 9 hours to listen to President Trump’s speeches. And you have the audacity, a never Trump, to make a determination that “The American People” don’t want Trump?

    Yes.  Trump has never broken 46%.  We cannot count on Democrats nominating Hillary next time.  We barely won the last presidential election.

    In the prior three Presidential elections, the Republican Party had carried Arizona by 9-11 points.  Trump won by 3 points.  The Republican Party will lose Arizona’s 11 Electoral College votes in 2020 if we nominate Trump.

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  15. Stina Member
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    @CM

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    This is true enough, but at the same time I don’t want to be like the feminist in the joke, “How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb.”

    As for which is more important, Trump’s tweets or the House of Representatives, I’d say it’s a close call.

    Mocking Trump tweets, I feel, are fair game.

    I like em, many don’t, but humor requires a bit of truth.

    Where this cartoon fails for me are the normal results of a midterm election being characterized as a wave.

    The gains in the house were pretty average. The Senate has me concerned with the recounts, but not unusual. The 2016 gains lost were not really conservative- they were blue collar dems. To suddenly expect an Trump-resistant contingent of Republicans to solidify those gains was absolute pie-in-the-sky thinking.

    Holy cow. Losing almost 40 house seats is certainly a wave, especially when we lose almost 40 house seats. We lost seats that we had held for many years, like AZ-2, CA-25, CA-48, CA-49, CO-6, FL-26, FL-27, GA-6, IL-6, IL-14, IA-1, IA-3, KS-3, MI-6, MI-11, MN-2, MN-3, NJ-2, NJ-7, NJ-11, NM-2, NY-11, NY-19, OK-5, PA-5, PA-6, PA-7, PA-17, SC-1, TX-7, TX-32, UT-4, VA-2, VA-7, VA-10, and WA-8. What did the Democrats lose? One seat: MN-8.

    Arizona had not voted for a Democrat for the Senate for 30 years. We did so last Tuesday.

    America is sending us a huge message about Trump. If we hear that message, we can win back those traditional Republican districts. But if we ignore Americans, just wait until next election!

    People here defined a “wave” as 40 house seats if they didn’t take the Senate. They based it off historical norms.

    No one’s moving goal posts. 40 seats were not gained. No blue wave.

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  16. Gary Robbins Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    This is true enough, but at the same time I don’t want to be like the feminist in the joke, “How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb.”

    As for which is more important, Trump’s tweets or the House of Representatives, I’d say it’s a close call.

    Mocking Trump tweets, I feel, are fair game.

    I like em, many don’t, but humor requires a bit of truth.

    Where this cartoon fails for me are the normal results of a midterm election being characterized as a wave.

    The gains in the house were pretty average. The Senate has me concerned with the recounts, but not unusual. The 2016 gains lost were not really conservative- they were blue collar dems. To suddenly expect an Trump-resistant contingent of Republicans to solidify those gains was absolute pie-in-the-sky thinking.

    Holy cow. Losing almost 40 house seats is certainly a wave, especially when we lose almost 40 house seats. We lost seats that we had held for many years, like AZ-2, CA-25, CA-48, CA-49, CO-6, FL-26, FL-27, GA-6, IL-6, IL-14, IA-1, IA-3, KS-3, MI-6, MI-11, MN-2, MN-3, NJ-2, NJ-7, NJ-11, NM-2, NY-11, NY-19, OK-5, PA-5, PA-6, PA-7, PA-17, SC-1, TX-7, TX-32, UT-4, VA-2, VA-7, VA-10, and WA-8. What did the Democrats lose? One seat: MN-8.

    Arizona had not voted for a Democrat for the Senate for 30 years. We did so last Tuesday.

    America is sending us a huge message about Trump. If we hear that message, we can win back those traditional Republican districts. But if we ignore Americans, just wait until next election!

    People here defined a “wave” as 40 house seats if they didn’t take the Senate. They based it off historical norms.

    No one’s moving goal posts. 40 seats were not gained. No blue wave.

    Who defined that?  When did they say that?  What did they say?

    Losing over 30+ seats to the Democrats, and taking away only one seat from them (MN-8) sure strikes me as a wave.

    Losing the first senate seat in Arizona in 30 years was a wave.

    Having the Democrats win 4 statewide offices in Arizona, after not winning any in 10 years is a wave.

    Barely holding the Arizona Legislature by the second or third lowest amount in 50 years is a wave.

    This was the worst Republican Midterm since the Watergate election of 1974, with only the possible exception of 2006.  Otherwise, we are just whistling past the graveyard.

    We got our clocks cleaned, and if we stick with Trump this is only going to get worse,

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  17. Kay of MT Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump has never broken 46%.

    Well, Hillary is at 36% so that leaves 18% for other.

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  18. James Gawron Inactive
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Um … Michael … your anti-Trumpy bias is showing. It diminishes your talent. Overreach is neither funny or truth.

    Columbo,

    Please “like” my post “The Worst Deal in History” on the member feed. Huge things are happening in Britain. Lots of cabinet resignations and the Brexiteers may finally go after May for real.

    Thanks

    Regards,

    Jim

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