Max Boot Was Clearly Correct

 

As many of you know, Max Boot was among those calling for Republicans to elect Democrat Representatives, because Orange Man bad. I am, personally, shocked at how many of you people could not, or would not, see the faultless logic of this plan.

Clearly, the way to fight back against the mean, racist bully Trump is to vote for the party that embraces political violence, is devoutly committed to letting mothers murder their children, and is now openly, proudly racist.

Now that is something so obvious, even Don Lemon can see it.

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  1. RightAngles Member
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    Yep.

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  2. WI Con Member
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    If it’s worth the time (and it isn’t) to go back to the days when Max Boot was on ‘our side’, I recall his arguments being cogent and lucid. These clips I see of his arguments now are moronic.  

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  3. Stad Coolidge
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    Joshua Bissey: Clearly, the way to fight back against the mean, racist bully Trump is to vote for the party that embraces political violence, is devoutly committed to letting mothers murder their children, and is now openly, proudly racist.

    Boot should be given the boot.  The Republicans who fled resigned from the House were the opposition to Trump.  However, they still managed to work with him enough to get tax reform, and to repeal and replace Obamacare (no thanks to John McCain for stopping it).

    No, the Democrats will be an ineffective opposition to Trump because they are going to waste all their time trying to bring him and Justice Kavanaugh down.  While all of Trump’s cabinet members will now be spending half their time testifying before House committees, the underlings have their marching orders and will continue to make the reforms Trump can do without Congress . . .

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  4. RightAngles Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Joshua Bissey: Clearly, the way to fight back against the mean, racist bully Trump is to vote for the party that embraces political violence, is devoutly committed to letting mothers murder their children, and is now openly, proudly racist.

    Boot should be given the boot. The Republicans who fled resigned from the House were the opposition to Trump. However, they still managed to work with him enough to get tax reform, and to repeal and replace Obamacare (no thanks to John McCain for stopping it).

    No, the Democrats will be an ineffective opposition to Trump because they are going to waste all their time trying to bring him and Justice Kavanaugh down. While all of Trump’s cabinet members will now be spending half their time testifying before House committees, the underlings have their marching orders and will continue to make the reforms Trump can do without Congress . . .

    The ones, especially on the Republican side, who care more about hurting Trump than they do about what’s good for the country are the lowest of the low.

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  5. Kozak Member
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       “It became necessary to destroy the town   GOP to save it,” 

    USA Major 1968

    Updated for our times.

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  6. cdor Member
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    WI Con (View Comment):

    If it’s worth the time (and it isn’t) to go back to the days when Max Boot was on ‘our side’, I recall his arguments being cogent and lucid. These clips I see of his arguments now are moronic.

    Yep, he truly is howling at the moon…in the daytime!

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  7. Mister Dog Coolidge
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    I consider myself fairly well read but am I alone in never having heard of Max Boot prior to his “conversion?” Or at least nothing memorable from him.

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  8. Gary Robbins Member
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    Mister Dog (View Comment):

    I consider myself fairly well read but am I alone in never having heard of Max Boot prior to his “conversion?” Or at least nothing memorable from him.

    He published a number of good columns in the Wall Street Journal.

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  9. Steve C. Member
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    Mister Dog (View Comment):

    I consider myself fairly well read but am I alone in never having heard of Max Boot prior to his “conversion?” Or at least nothing memorable from him.

    He wrote a good book on small wars.

    And technology in war

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  10. DonG Coolidge
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    I am very critical of the GOP House leadership that choose to disappear during the election season.  Were they Booters?  Do GOP House members prefer to “lead” from a safe minority position, where they cannot be held responsible for anything (or nothing)?  One can only say “yes”, if you believe that a Congressman would put career ahead of America’s needs.  Life is easy, when you are not in a swing district and you can spend your time complaining about the Nancy Pelosi. 

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  11. Mister D Inactive
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    I was NeverTrump during the election. I doubted his ability to win, yet he did. I doubted he would stick to The List, but he has. And I doubted his willingness to govern as a conservative, yet for the most part he has.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. I still think he is an emotionally stunted, insecure, narcissistic, man child, and I have seen little over the last two years to change my mind. I hoped he would grow into the office, but if there’s been growth, it has been minor. I still can’t bring myself to pull the lever for the man, not that it will matter, but in the grand scheme, he has been far better than I feared, and has done much worth defending.

    Had my worst fears been realized, I could see myself going the Max Boot/William Kristol route of turning my back on the whole party in an effort to save conservatism. I do think it will be necessary to wash ourselves clean of his less savory aspects once he’s out of office, and I can’t blame those office holders and seekers who choose to keep their distance. But to say it is necessary to toss all Republicans into the fire, at a time when the liberals are ready to tear down our institutions, when they behave just as appallingly as Trump during the Kavanaugh hearings, when the use Trump’s poor behavior to justify their own, while we see many on our side doing their best to moderate Trump’s worst impulses, that is just incomprehensible to me. 

     

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  12. Mister Dog Coolidge
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    @garyrobbins, @stevec

    Thanks, apparently he has been around and I just missed him. 

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  13. Vance Richards Inactive
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    Vote for the most leftist candidate that has a chance to win and by doing so you will advance conservatism because . . . Magic! 

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  14. GFHandle Member
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    I just learned that for a period of around fifty years before the Civil War, not one session of Congress passed without a physical assault by one member upon another.  From people being spat upon or waylaid to duels, the U.S. legislature was not a safe space.  The “civility” that Trump smashes is fairly recent, and apparently fragile (try having dinner with the Nunes family some time). So the old, “We need this man, he fights” has some resonance.

    But are not the likes of Bill Kristol and Max Boot perhaps far sighted?  All presidents fall from grace at some point, it seems. So it’s a safe bet they will, like the broken clock right twice a day, be seen  as prophets some time in the future.

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  15. Dr.Guido Member
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    @JoshuaBissey  Poor Max Boot is suffering from EOWKS…Early Onset Will Kristol Syndrome—-It causes the victim to become blind to any achievement that previously had been hoped for if only a less personally offensive person had done so.

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  16. Gary Robbins Member
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    Mister D (View Comment):

    I was NeverTrump during the election. I doubted his ability to win, yet he did. I doubted he would stick to The List, but he has. And I doubted his willingness to govern as a conservative, yet for the most part he has.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. I still think he is an emotionally stunted, insecure, narcissistic, man child, and I have seen little over the last two years to change my mind. I hoped he would grow into the office, but if there’s been growth, it has been minor. I still can’t bring myself to pull the lever for the man, not that it will matter, but in the grand scheme, he has been far better than I feared, and has done much worth defending.

    Had my worst fears been realized, I could see myself going the Max Boot/William Kristol route of turning my back on the whole party in an effort to save conservatism. I do think it will be necessary to wash ourselves clean of his less savory aspects once he’s out of office, and I can’t blame those office holders and seekers who choose to keep their distance. But to say it is necessary to toss all Republicans into the fire, at a time when the liberals are ready to tear down our institutions, when they behave just as appallingly as Trump during the Kavanaugh hearings, when the use Trump’s poor behavior to justify their own, while we see many on our side doing their best to moderate Trump’s worst impulses, that is just incomprehensible to me.

    Amen.  Ditto.

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  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    Dr.Guido (View Comment):

    @JoshuaBissey Poor Max Boot is suffering from EOWKS…Early Onset Will Kristol Syndrome—-It causes the victim to become blind to any achievement that previously had been hoped for if only a less personally offensive person had done so.

    I have to guard against EOWKS myself.  

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  18. TBA Coolidge
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    GFHandle (View Comment):

    I just learned that for a period of around fifty years before the Civil War, not one session of Congress passed without a physical assault by one member upon another. From people being spat upon or waylaid to duels, the U.S. legislature was not a safe space. The “civility” that Trump smashes is fairly recent, and apparently fragile (try having dinner with the Nunes family some time). So the old, “We need this man, he fights” has some resonance.

    But are not the likes of Bill Kristol and Max Boot perhaps far sighted? All presidents fall from grace at some point, it seems. So it’s a safe bet they will, like the broken clock right twice a day, be seen as prophets some time in the future.

    Not nearly enough congressmen die in duels. 

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  19. James Lileks Contributor
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    Boot’s pre-election posture was preposterous, he said in the voice of Sylvester the Cat, and it presumed that anyone looked to him for electoral guidance.  I made a new club! Everyone join me over here, okay? Okay! Hey, over here! Fellas? C’mon, fellas – hey where you going?

    I don’t mind if a pundit wants to wash his hands of Trump, and I understand the concern with the direction of the GOP, but no, I’m not going to make a point of watching you wash your hands 16 times a day, especially if you also want me to rub my hands on raw chicken and lick my fingers because the country needs to be taught a lesson about poultry safety. 

    Going all-out never-ever-nuh-uh Trump turns pundits, with a few exceptions, into self-righteous bores, just as defending of his every action and utterance turns people into fools or liars. 

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  20. TBA Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Dr.Guido (View Comment):

    @JoshuaBissey Poor Max Boot is suffering from EOWKS…Early Onset Will Kristol Syndrome—-It causes the victim to become blind to any achievement that previously had been hoped for if only a less personally offensive person had done so.

    I have to guard against EOWKS myself.

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  21. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    A thing most people forget.  The purpose of the Republican party is to get out the vote so Republican Politicians can get elected.

    Its a poor place to be a guardian of conservatism.  Leave that to places like National Review, The American Spectator and Ricochet.

    Those expecting anything different are doomed to be dissapointed.

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  22. Stad Coolidge
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    Mister D (View Comment):
    But to say it is necessary to toss all Republicans into the fire, at a time when the liberals are ready to tear down our institutions, when they behave just as appallingly as Trump during the Kavanaugh hearings, when the use Trump’s poor behavior to justify their own, while we see many on our side doing their best to moderate Trump’s worst impulses, that is just incomprehensible to me. 

    The never-Trumpers (especially the House Republicans who resigned) have thrown themselves into the fire, IMHO . . .

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  23. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Electing Barry twice did good things for conservatism (tea party).  Does that mean we should elect more Democrats, always, for the furtherance of the conservative cause?

    This seems counter-intuitive.

    Also, this does not appear to be very conservative, but hey, Max writes stuff, so I guess he knows.  Debt doubled under Barry.  Given Boot’s premise, I’m assuming $40 trillion will be better for all of us, instead of $20 trillion?

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  24. cdor Member
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    DonG (View Comment):

    I am very critical of the GOP House leadership that choose to disappear during the election season. Were they Booters? Do GOP House members prefer to “lead” from a safe minority position, where they cannot be held responsible for anything (or nothing)? One can only say “yes”, if you believe that a Congressman would put career ahead of America’s needs. Life is easy, when you are not in a swing district and you can spend your time complaining about the Nancy Pelosi.

    Over 40 of them retired in this election year. I believe that is a record. I’m sure there are a myriad of individual reasons, but so many at once is quite suspicious to me. Could some have been NT’s?

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  25. RightAngles Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    DonG (View Comment):

    I am very critical of the GOP House leadership that choose to disappear during the election season. Were they Booters? Do GOP House members prefer to “lead” from a safe minority position, where they cannot be held responsible for anything (or nothing)? One can only say “yes”, if you believe that a Congressman would put career ahead of America’s needs. Life is easy, when you are not in a swing district and you can spend your time complaining about the Nancy Pelosi.

    Over 40 of them retired in this election year. I believe that is a record. I’m sure there are a myriad of individual reasons, but so many at once is quite suspicious to me. Could some have been NT’s?

    I have posted about this, and I think there’s something behind it all right. Whether it’s a coordinated effort to hurt Trump (which some of it was) or whether the Democrats are blackmailing some of them (which I’m sure was also part of it),  there’s something fishy,

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  26. Zoomie93 Inactive
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Mister Dog (View Comment):

    I consider myself fairly well read but am I alone in never having heard of Max Boot prior to his “conversion?” Or at least nothing memorable from him.

    He wrote a good book on small wars.

    And technology in war

    both are good reads

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  27. Roderic Fabian Coolidge
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    Tucker Carlson’s theory, described in his book Ship of Fools, is that both Boot and Kristol are, to use a term that he did not use outright, war mongers.  Boot in particular has championed American military intervention as the solution for every trouble spot in the world.  Kristol is deeply wedded to the wisdom of the War in Iraq.

    So when Trump said in a primary debate that the War in Iraq was a mistake and that he would strive to keep the US out of wars both men went insane with Trump hatred, Boot to the extent of becoming a quasi Democrat and Kristol to the extent of trying to stop Trump by getting David French to run on a third party ticket.  They will not rest until Trump is removed and the Republican Party is once again a party friendly to military adventures.

    Boot and Kristol would probably dislike Trump even without the issue of how freely to use the military.  Trump is not their kind of people.  But Carlson is convinced that the main driving issue for them is the use of the military.  Kristol, he notes, was offering qualified praise of Trump before that primary debate.

    I suppose it is a measure of how much the liberal media hates Trump that they are running flattering profiles of both Boot and Kristol despite their continued support of Middle Eastern American military intervention.  What they don’t seem to get or choose to ignore is that his and Boot’s reason for getting rid of Trump is so that America’s vital mission of violent regime change the world over can be resumed.

     

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  28. Unsk Member
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    I once, long time ago ,thought well of Max Boot,  until I read one of his novels which I found to be  distinctly anti-Semitic and fairly unhinged in it’s points of view. It does not surprise me, then,  that his views have “grown” to embrace the racist and destructive  Progressive  point of view. 

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  29. Stad Coolidge
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    cdor (View Comment):
    Could some have been NT’s?

    It was a combination of never-Trumpers and committee chairmen rotating out of their positions.

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  30. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    The committee chairman rotating out is something not well understood but basically leads to Congressional term limits.  Which a lot of people say they want to happen, till it inconveniences them.

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