Flake’s Unaware He’s In A War

 

Image result for Senator Flake AvenattiFor the past week, everyone I have come in contact with says they are furious. I am furious. Anger over the clearly politically driven power grab and coup attempt hijacking a constitutional process that was about to seat a Conservative appointee on the Supreme Court. Granted, most of my circle are right of center. My monthly cigar group is a seething, frothing group of men of a certain age who are incredulous over the blatantly political, rank accusations. However, what has surprised me are those friends who dislike, even despise President Trump, who are deeply uncomfortable with this sad, disgusting chapter in our country’s political history. They also believe this is a horrific political hit job on a decent man.

I am old enough to remember Obama’s liberal appointees — Justices Kagan and Sotomayer — enjoying their confirmation process with dignity and respect.

I remember Justice Clarence Thomas being branded and still being accused of sexual assault with zero proof.

I remember Chappaquiddick Kennedy making a new verb out of Nominee Bork’s name.

Now, for less than a handful of Republican Senators, namely Flake, Collins, and Murkowski, the committee is jumping through hoops to placate these wavering flowers.

Judicial Committee member Flake just suggested he doesn’t believe these accusers are part of a “left-wing conspiracy.”

This completely ignores Feinstein strategically holding the complaint for 45 days before submitting before the vote.

This completely ignores and defies common sense which would suggest the reported 10 teenage gang rape parties would have been reported or discussed sometime, by some person over the past 35 years.

This completely ignores the messenger is the self-serving, vile porn lawyer, Michael Avenatti who CNN and MSNBC seem to have made a media sensation, but who reminds the rest of us of every insulting joke we ever heard about lawyers.

Avenatti is Saul Goodman without the charm. He is Alex Jones on meth. Shakespeare suggested what to do with lawyers like Avenatti in Henry VI.

Sen. Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

SCOTUS is the city of Verdun in WWI and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Sen. Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

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  1. RightAngles Member
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    Bravo, Dave! I couldn’t agree more.  Everything you outline above is true. The irony is that, in their zeal to recapture power, the Left might succeed only in firing up our base even more than they already are. So far it looks to me like that “Blue Wave” might turn into more of a Blue Riptide that sucks them all under.

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  2. Valiuth Inactive
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    @Valiuth

    Dave Sussman:

    Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

    SCOTUS is the city of Verdun (WWI), and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Senator Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote. 

    It is a good thing all of you have been so nice and good to Mr. Flake, and have done nothing to potentially alienate him from the Republican party at large. I guess you guy better start sucking up to him hard. Tell him how good and powerful and handsome he is. How you will do anything for him if he just lets you have Kavanaugh. Maybe if Trump apologizes to him publicly? 

     

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  3. Judge Mental Member
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    @JudgeMental

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman:

    Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

    SCOTUS is the city of Verdun (WWI), and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Senator Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

    It is a good thing all of you have been so nice and good to Mr. Flake, and have done nothing to potentially alienate him from the Republican party at large. I guess you guy better start sucking up to him hard. Tell him how good and powerful and handsome he is. How you will do anything for him if he just lets you have Kavanaugh. Maybe if Trump apologizes to him publicly?

    What a childish turd he would be to allow his hatred for Donald Trump to lead him to cause the result Dave described.

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  4. Jim McConnell Member
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    @JimMcConnell

    I’ve always seen Senator Flake as the Republican John Kerry; he is so convinced of his own intellect and rectitude that he is completely cut off from reality.

    Much like a man being run out of town on a rail being convinced he is leading a parade.

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  5. Quake Voter Inactive
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    @QuakeVoter

    Remember when Justice Rehnquist was slandered as a racist because of a moot racial restriction in the 200 year old deed of some property he owned.

    That one seems to have made the memory hole along with the public’s belief in Thomas after Hill’s inept last minute performance.

     

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  6. Dave Sussman Contributor
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    @DaveSussman

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Bravo, Dave! I couldn’t agree more. Everything you outline above is true. The irony is that, in their zeal to recapture power, the Left might succeed only in firing up our base even more than they already are. So far it looks to me like that “Blue Wave” might turn into more of a Blue Riptide that sucks them all under.

    That’s the conventional thought on the right.

    The conventional thought on the Left is that no matter what happens, they have branded  Kavanaugh as ‘another ‘ Justice who committed sexual assault. People on the Left still think Thomas did the things he was accused of. 

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  7. Dave Sussman Contributor
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    @DaveSussman

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman:

    Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

    SCOTUS is the city of Verdun (WWI), and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Senator Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

    It is a good thing all of you have been so nice and good to Mr. Flake, and have done nothing to potentially alienate him from the Republican party at large. I guess you guy better start sucking up to him hard. Tell him how good and powerful and handsome he is. How you will do anything for him if he just lets you have Kavanaugh. Maybe if Trump apologizes to him publicly?

     

    Uh wut?

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  8. Dave Sussman Contributor
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    @DaveSussman

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    I’ve always seen Senator Flake as the Republican John Kerry; he is so convinced of his own intellect and rectitude that he is completely cut off from reality.

    Much like a man being run out of town on a rail being convinced he is leading a parade.

    The one thing I would commend Kerry for is he fights for the Left’s cause. That may include meeting with Iran and Palestinians telling them to ignore and wait out his country’s President, but at least he fights for their filthy, treasonous cause.

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  9. RightAngles Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman:

    Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

    SCOTUS is the city of Verdun (WWI), and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Senator Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

    It is a good thing all of you have been so nice and good to Mr. Flake, and have done nothing to potentially alienate him from the Republican party at large. I guess you guy better start sucking up to him hard. Tell him how good and powerful and handsome he is. How you will do anything for him if he just lets you have Kavanaugh. Maybe if Trump apologizes to him publicly?

     

    What on earth are you talking about. Jeff Flake is a self-important popinjay.

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  10. Jason Obermeyer Member
    Jason Obermeyer
    @JasonObermeyer

    It has been clear for a while now that Jeff Flake is here for the self-righteousness and self-aggrandizement, nothing more. 

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  11. Mark Camp Member
    Mark Camp
    @MarkCamp

    Thanks.  Fascinating peek into the inner world of a substantial faction of American voters.  The revelation of an implicit assumption about why others have the views that they do, however bizarre that assumption may be, makes a lot of otherwise inexplicable, objectionable behavior seem perfectly rational and morally justifiable.

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  12. Dave Sussman Contributor
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    @DaveSussman

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Thanks. Fascinating peek into the inner world of a substantial faction of American voters. The revelation of an implicit assumption about why others have the views that they do, however bizarre that assumption may be, makes a lot of otherwise inexplicable, objectionable behavior seem perfectly rational and morally justifiable.

    Not entirely certain (not a clue) as to what position you are taking here. 

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  13. Front Seat Cat Member
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    @FrontSeatCat

    What does a cigar group do? Do you share news on the latest cigars? That’s cute – any women in that group?  If not, you may have trouble,….

    Seriously, it is appalling to anyone with a decent bone in their body – and makes me wonder who would ever want to serve our country in the current environment – I feel bad for Judge Kavanaugh’s family, while I greatly admire their strength and determination.

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  14. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman:

    Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

    SCOTUS is the city of Verdun (WWI), and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Senator Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

    It is a good thing all of you have been so nice and good to Mr. Flake, and have done nothing to potentially alienate him from the Republican party at large. I guess you guy better start sucking up to him hard. Tell him how good and powerful and handsome he is. How you will do anything for him if he just lets you have Kavanaugh. Maybe if Trump apologizes to him publicly?

    What on earth are you talking about. Jeff Flake is a self-important popinjay.

    But he’s anti-Trump, and that’s all that really matters for the snark-squad.

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  15. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    Dave Sussman: Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country.

    Others have made this prediction too, but I don’t follow the logic. Why would Republicans stay home or vote for Democrats because of the current fiasco? In other words, why would they cut off their nose to spite their face? It doesn’t make sense to me that voters would be that dumb.  

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  16. Dave Sussman Contributor
    Dave Sussman
    @DaveSussman

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    What does a cigar group do? Do you share news on the latest cigars? That’s cute – any women in that group? If not, you may have trouble,….

    Seriously, it is appalling to anyone with a decent bone in their body – and makes me wonder who would ever want to serve our country in the current environment – I feel bad for Judge Kavanaugh’s family, while I greatly admire their strength and determination.

    Yes, there are mixed groups too. I attend both when I can. It’s mostly discussions about history, politics and culture. One of my favorite pastimes. 

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  17. Dave Sussman Contributor
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    @DaveSussman

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman: Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country.

    Others have made this prediction too, but I don’t follow the logic. Why would Republicans stay home or vote for Democrats because of the current fiasco? In other words, why would they cut off their nose to spite their face? It doesn’t make sense to me that voters would be that dumb.

    The thinking is many people don’t think Grassley should have delayed the vote. I understand why he did (#metoo), but now they need to take the vote.

    Democrats are awful when it comes to policy, but outstanding strategists when it comes to fighting. This was planned for months. Republicans either need to step up their Sun Tzu or they will lose.

    Conservatives want to see strength. Anything other than a confirmation is weak. It will deflate and anger the right and they will not come out in November. Confirm him and they could possibly hold the House and add seats in the Senate. 

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  18. Judge Mental Member
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    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman: Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country.

    Others have made this prediction too, but I don’t follow the logic. Why would Republicans stay home or vote for Democrats because of the current fiasco? In other words, why would they cut off their nose to spite their face? It doesn’t make sense to me that voters would be that dumb.

    The thinking is many people don’t think Grassley should have delayed the vote. I understand why he did (#metoo), but now they need to take the vote.

    Democrats are awful when it comes to policy, but outstanding strategists when it comes to fighting. This was planned for months. Republicans either need to step up their Sun Tzu or they will lose.

    Conservatives want to see strength. Anything other than a confirmation is weak. It will deflate and anger the right and they will not come out in November. Confirm him and they could possibly hold the House and add seats in the Senate.

    Put more simply… it does no good to elect Republicans if they are going to let the Democrats run things.

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  19. PJ Inactive
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    @PJ

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman: Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country.

    Others have made this prediction too, but I don’t follow the logic. Why would Republicans stay home or vote for Democrats because of the current fiasco? In other words, why would they cut off their nose to spite their face? It doesn’t make sense to me that voters would be that dumb.

    The thinking is many people don’t think Grassley should have delayed the vote. I understand why he did (#metoo), but now they need to take the vote.

    Democrats are awful when it comes to policy, but outstanding strategists when it comes to fighting. This was planned for months. Republicans either need to step up their Sun Tzu or they will lose.

    Conservatives want to see strength. Anything other than a confirmation is weak. It will deflate and anger the right and they will not come out in November. Confirm him and they could possibly hold the House and add seats in the Senate.

    Put more simply… it does no good to elect Republicans if they are going to let the Democrats run things.

    Yes.  I hate Trump.  I like many of the things he’s done, but I hate him.  I will, however, vote for Republicans in the mid-terms, and I am much more enthusiastic about doing so given this outrage.  If the Republicans fold on Kavanaugh, I will be demoralized.  I’ll still vote, but I can see how more marginal voters might not.

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  20. Melissa Praemonitus Member
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    @6foot2inhighheels

    It’s no accident that the women’s stories seem believable on a certain level to a certain set of people.  Urban legends of frat boys drugging girls and standing in a “train” have been rampant since before I was in college in the 80’s.  I attended a lot of parties then, and there was always alcohol, and always pot.  Since I didn’t partake of either, I remember everything quite well.  

    One of the more popular urban legends I heard was told to me in two or three variations by friends who always explained that they heard it from a friend of a friend who had first hand knowledge: “The guy whips it out, and lays it right out on my friend’s shoulder!  He says, ‘kiss it’!  And she says, sorry, but I’m not into pity kissing.  Put your pants back on, Junior. ”  This was always greeted with female gales of laughter, no matter how many times it was told, as the girls prepared for when something similar might happen to them.  

    The idea that 80’s girls were Victorians prone to vapors and irreparably harmed every time a man ground up against them while dancing is ridiculous.  The only girls I knew who were that timid didn’t attend parties.  

    The most recent urban legend peddled to college freshmen, is that ALL men are potential rapists, and must be viewed under a cloud of suspicion.  

    And so Kanavanugh is trapped like a Salem witch, forced to defend himself against accusations that happen to also be the urban legends that democrats are especially prone to believe.   

     

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  21. Dave Sussman Contributor
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    Melissa Praemonitus (View Comment):

    It’s no accident that the women’s stories seem believable on a certain level to a certain set of people. Urban legends of frat boys drugging girls and standing in a “train” have been rampant since before I was in college in the 80’s. I attended a lot of parties then, and there was always alcohol, and always pot. Since I didn’t partake of either, I remember everything quite well.

    One of the more popular urban legends I heard was told to me in two or three variations by friends who always explained that they heard it from a friend of a friend who had first hand knowledge: “The guy whips it out, and lays it right out on my friend’s shoulder! He says, ‘kiss it’! And she says, sorry, but I’m not into pity kissing. Put your pants back on, Junior. ” This was always greeted with female gales of laughter, no matter how many times it was told, as the girls prepared for when something similar might happen to them.

    The idea that 80’s girls were Victorians prone to vapors and irreparably harmed every time a man ground up against them while dancing is ridiculous. The only girls I knew who were that timid didn’t attend parties.

    The most recent urban legend peddled to college freshmen, is that ALL men are potential rapists, and must be viewed under a cloud of suspicion.

    And so Kanavanugh is trapped like a Salem witch, forced to defend himself against accusations that happen to also be the urban legends that democrats are especially prone to believe.

    If we had digital camera’s in 80’s high school and college fraternity parties, we would have plenty of embarrassing, stupid drinking moments, but never anything like this.

    One time (at band camp) a story floated around campus about a drunken fraternity brother (in another house, not ours) who assaulted a girl and he was arrested and expelled. This was 30 years before #metoo. It was news because it was such an outlier.

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  22. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    @goldwaterwoman

    Dave Sussman: SCOTUS is the city of Verdun in WWI and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Sen. Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

    This whole SCOTUS debacle is as obscene as the Clarence Thomas circus, maybe even worse with these latest gang rape accusations. Flake couldn’t get elected for dog catcher and is holding up our nominee? Who is behind this pompous little prig that he even has the temerity to dare to do this? Dave, you are so right to say this is war, and you are very, very correct in noticing that we are all mad as hell that our inept leaders have allowed these disgraceful smears to dominate the national discourse. I am sincerely sick at heart over this.

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  23. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    @goldwaterwoman

    Judge Mental (View Comment):
    Put more simply… it does no good to elect Republicans if they are going to let the Democrats run things.

    A lot of us are beginning to think that way. 

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  24. Dave Sussman Contributor
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):
    Dave, you are so right to say this is war,

    Those who don’t treat it as such will end up serving their totalitarian masters. 

    (yeah, I’m angry, but if you use the Left’s behavior as a predictor of future behavior, this is not hyperbole.)

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  25. Valiuth Inactive
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman:

    Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

    SCOTUS is the city of Verdun (WWI), and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Senator Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

    It is a good thing all of you have been so nice and good to Mr. Flake, and have done nothing to potentially alienate him from the Republican party at large. I guess you guy better start sucking up to him hard. Tell him how good and powerful and handsome he is. How you will do anything for him if he just lets you have Kavanaugh. Maybe if Trump apologizes to him publicly?

    What a childish turd he would be to allow his hatred for Donald Trump to lead him to cause the result Dave described.

    If you prick him does he not bleed, if you wrong him shall he not be avenged? 

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  26. Judge Mental Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman:

    Senator Flake, if you prevent a vote from taking place in the Senate, you will cause the losses of Republican seats across the country. This will allow the growing massive Marxist wave to crash onto our land and the cultural impact will affect our liberty, free speech and freedom for generations. The Left has no desire for justice. They only seek power.

    SCOTUS is the city of Verdun (WWI), and the Republicans need to fight for every square inch of ground. Senator Flake, you carry the weight of an entire country’s future in your considered vote.

    It is a good thing all of you have been so nice and good to Mr. Flake, and have done nothing to potentially alienate him from the Republican party at large. I guess you guy better start sucking up to him hard. Tell him how good and powerful and handsome he is. How you will do anything for him if he just lets you have Kavanaugh. Maybe if Trump apologizes to him publicly?

    What a childish turd he would be to allow his hatred for Donald Trump to lead him to cause the result Dave described.

    If you prick him does he not bleed, if you wrong him shall he not be avenged?

    If he’s a childish turd, shall he not act as a childish turd?

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  27. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    @goldwaterwoman

    Melissa Praemonitus (View Comment):
    The idea that 80’s girls were Victorians prone to vapors and irreparably harmed every time a man ground up against them while dancing is ridiculous. The only girls I knew who were that timid didn’t attend parties.

    Exactly. The women most indignant about parties with drinking and  bold passes from a male are either social wallflowers or are lying. The latest accusations of the train rape thing, however, are too unbelievable for even the most sophisticated. Something like that would have been all over campus and subject to major punishment. 

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  28. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    If you prick him does he not bleed, if you wrong him shall he not be avenged?

    Who’s gonna avenge Flake? I don’t think he inspires such devotion. His fans prefer his spineless cowardice to decisive action. But cowardice only invites ridicule or pity — at best. They will use him and discard him when they’re done with him.

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  29. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Melissa Praemonitus (View Comment):
    The idea that 80’s girls were Victorians prone to vapors and irreparably harmed every time a man ground up against them while dancing is ridiculous. The only girls I knew who were that timid didn’t attend parties.

    Exactly. The women most indignant about parties with drinking and bold passes from a male are either social wallflowers or are lying. The latest accusations of the train rape thing, however, are too unbelievable for even the most sophisticated. Something like that would have been all over campus and subject to major punishment.

    It’s definitely in “urban legend” territory. The tells are everywhere.

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  30. Jason Obermeyer Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    If you prick him does he not bleed, if you wrong him shall he not be avenged?

    [in “Merchant of Venice”]

    Keanu Reeves:
    Hath not a dude eyes? If you prick us, do we not get bummed? If we eat bad guacamole, do we not blow chunks?

    • The Critic (an underrated show)

    * Sorry carry down the level of the conversation.  Carry on.

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