Reality Check: Adolescent Males

 

When the Kavanaugh story broke I made the comment that, whether or not the account is believable, it isn’t a sufficiently big deal to warrant preventing his confirmation. Since then I’ve read and heard several comments, including in conservative media, to the effect that these are “serious allegations” that, if true, would certainly disqualify Kavanaugh.

I disagree. I think we are witnessing a preening, unrealistic outrage rooted in a fantasy of how humans are supposed to behave. Life isn’t a fairy tale, never less so than when it involves intoxicated, scantily clad teens cavorting without adult supervision.

Since the sexual revolution, the process of seduction has grown ever more perfunctory and abbreviated. Young men are, at their best, clumsy, sex-obsessed creatures. Add alcohol and they become even less gracious, if that’s possible: the lines between flirtatious, boorish, and aggressively physical become increasingly blurred.

I’m not saying that what is alleged to have occurred is a good or appropriate thing. I have a daughter of my own, after all. I’m merely saying that it is to be expected: there is nothing good and appropriate about a bunch of kids being left alone to drink and carry on, and the consequences of allowing that kind of situation are going to tend to be bad regardless of the character of the kids involved. Kids lack judgment. They’re also wired differently from adults, with brains that are far more sensitive to pleasure and dismissive of risk: of course they’re going to make poor choices and misbehave, if given the opportunity.

That’s why we try not to give them the opportunity. That’s why we have always cautioned young women to be careful where they find themselves, and why we should continue to caution them. That’s why fathers are suspicious of their daughters’ boyfriends, and boyfriends are wary of their girlfriends’ fathers. That’s why sensible parents try to prevent their children from having unsupervised drinking parties.

Anyone who thinks that the behavior Mrs. Ford describes – of an intoxicated teenage male at an unsupervised party featuring intoxicated teenage females – is indicative of something unusual, unexpected, or alarming has an unrealistic view of young men, and probably of a lot of other things as well.

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  1. Arahant Member
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    Henry Racette: Anyone who thinks that the behavior Mrs. Ford describes – of an intoxicated teenage male at an unsupervised party featuring intoxicated teenage females – is indicative of something unusual, unexpected, or alarming has an unrealistic view of young men, and probably of a lot of other things as well.

    I was never intoxicated or at parties where the girls were, but I was a teenaged boy and didn’t need alcohol.

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  2. Columbo Inactive
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    Not disqualifying. There is precedent. Just ask HillBilly.

    Compare and contrast the democrat response to the multiple credible accusations of BJ Clinton … to their hysterics surrounding the highly non-credible and unverified accusations against Judge Kavanaugh.

    A vast left-wing conspiracy.

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  3. GrannyDude Member
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    I’ve been thinking the same thing, Henry. 

     I don’t actually believe the allegations, but I also don’t believe them to be disqualifying in the absence of some evidence (some? any?) that Brett Kavanaugh is …you know…like Ted Kennedy. Or Bill Clinton. Or even The Donald.

    Heck, I can’t even see any evidence that he behaved worse than I did as a teenager, and I’m not even male. 

     

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  4. GrannyDude Member
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    Also: is this to be the standard henceforth? Not just that my grandson should do nothing wrong, but that he must document his teenaged years so meticulously that, half a century from now, a woman motivated by who-knows-what won’t be able to accuse him of behavior that, however it might be perceived in 2032 has been deemed satanic by 2070?

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  5. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    I agree with you.  In another time and place, Kavanaugh would have been able to say something like this:  I don’t remember this incident at all.   I don’t believe that I am capable of such a thing, but according to Dr. Ford, I was very drunk and 17 so I can’t entirely discount that it happened the way she remembered.  I can say without hesitation that as an adult, I’ve lived my life as best I could and always treat women with the respect they deserve.  I am sorry that Dr. Ford experienced what she did and I wouldn’t want my daughter to be treated that way.

    And then we would have moved on.  But we don’t live in another time and place so here we are.

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  6. Henry Racette Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: Anyone who thinks that the behavior Mrs. Ford describes – of an intoxicated teenage male at an unsupervised party featuring intoxicated teenage females – is indicative of something unusual, unexpected, or alarming has an unrealistic view of young men, and probably of a lot of other things as well.

    I was never intoxicated or at parties where the girls were, but I was a teenaged boy and didn’t need alcohol.

    Same. 

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  7. PHenry Inactive
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    It’s rather astounding.  When I was in high school in the late ’70, the left was all sexual revolution! Love the one you’re with!  If it feels good, do it!  No sexual hangups!  Let it all hang out!  Why don’t we do it in the road?  

    The right were up tight shrews who were laughed at because they believed in marriage before sex. They were demonized for holding loose sexual practices against someone, (they call it slut shaming now.) 

    Yet somehow along the way, the left has become the shrews.  Now we learn that all these women are traumatized for life by the sexual abandon they were exposed to.  That a teen aged boy trying to kiss a girl or to cop a feel is so deeply damaging that 35 years later the psychological pain is still overwhelming. 

    Which is it?  That random sexual encounters are empowering, healthy, natural and should never be judged?  or that any offhand sexual remark is equivalent to rape, that any drunken sexual advance is proof of such low character that the person committing it should be banned from any position of trust for life?

    The saddest part of all of this is that there are real victims of violent rape who are now lumped in with women who got drunk and made out with someone, then in the morning regretted it.  When everything is rape, rape is no longer a very serious charge.

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  8. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    PHenry (View Comment):

    It’s rather astounding. When I was in high school in the late ’70, the left was all sexual revolution! Love the one you’re with! If it feels good, do it! No sexual hangups! Let it all hang out! Why don’t we do it in the road?

    The right were up tight shrews who were laughed at because they believed in marriage before sex. They were demonized for holding loose sexual practices against someone, (they call it slut shaming now.)

    Yet somehow along the way, the left has become the shrews. Now we learn that all these women are traumatized for life by the sexual abandon they were exposed to. That a teen aged boy trying to kiss a girl or to cop a feel is so deeply damaging that 35 years later the psychological pain is still overwhelming.

    Which is it? That random sexual encounters are empowering, healthy, natural and should never be judged? or that any offhand sexual remark is equivalent to rape, that any drunken sexual advance is proof of such low character that the person committing it should be banned from any position of trust for life?

    The saddest part of all of this is that there are real victims of violent rape who are now lumped in with women who got drunk and made out with someone, then in the morning regretted it. When everything is rape, rape is no longer a very serious charge.

    This a very good point and one that I haven’t seen made explicit. 

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  9. Ralphie Inactive
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    A sound reasonable man argument.  I was willing to say that maybe it happened, but think I may dig my heels in and say no, she is mistaken.  The monolithic chorus from the left smells. 

    I think DiFi withheld it because the most credible information she had was that Ford went to school and knew him and his friends when  they were in high school. The only other fact I can see is that Ford’s husband said she said it would be awful if he were put on the Supreme Court, so there is a powerful motive.

    I think when you have lost Lindsey Graham, it is a good bet what is going on is a set up. If this was a Democrat nominee, Graham would be saying much the same thing, making many on the right mad.   

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  10. JustmeinAZ Member
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    At the risk of repeating myself I’ll say it again. This NEVER happened. The Dems are a bunch of lying, evil, hypocrites. I am so angry right now that if I know someone who goes along with this tactic I will never be able to speak to that person again.

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  11. Full Size Tabby Member
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    I was a dork in high school (early 1970’s). 

    I did not drink or smoke, and was baffled by those who did. I was horrified to smell alcohol in the punch being distributed in the marching band (in which I played), and passed on it (the following Monday I was hauled into the school office as a witness for the growing disciplinary proceedings arising from the spiked punch). I did not get invited to many parties, and few if any of them had any alcohol present.

    Therefore I can say with absolute certainty that there are no skeletons in my closet that I don’t recall because I was inebriated.

    One time on a date with one of the few girlfriends I had, my hand went where it shouldn’t have. She pushed me away and immediately terminated the date, and put me in what I would today call “time out” for  a week – She wouldn’t talk to me. That was more than enough punishment to teach me not to try something like that again!

     

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  12. Doctor Robert Member
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    Another point that no one raises is that if the Christine Fraud allegations had been true, had been investigated at the time, had been prosecuted and had resulted in a conviction, Mr Kavanaugh would have been convicted as a juvenile. The conviction would vanish on his 18th or 21st birthday (I don’t live in Maryland) and that would be that.

    As to the Yale party, the legal drinking age in CT at the time was 18. I spent some time on the Yale campus as a medical student in 1981 and even in the medical school, I was aware of excessive undergraduate drinking, their drunken parties must have been rip-roarers.

    When and where I graduated college (late 1970s, midwestern state), we were limited to 3.2% beer, yet I saw more than one pathetic dude show his dork to a girl while drunk at a party.  I can’t remember anyone getting upset about it beyond the immediate give and take, which was generally unfavorable to the guy.

    Talk about a tempest in a teapot…but common sense and the truth don’t matter to the left.  Only power matters to the left.

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  13. Leigh Inactive
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    If the allegation were proven even in part it would be absolutely disqualifying if only because of his absolute denials.  Blatant lying to the Senate is a disqualification.  (Which, incidentally, makes me more inclined to believe him — he had no need or reason for such sweeping denials unless he is pretty confident).

    That said, she didn’t describe rough-housing, flirtation gone too far, or groping. She described attempted rape. That’s not legitimately expected behavior from a teenage boy.  To grab a young girl, pull her in a bedroom, force her onto a bed, and attempt to rip her clothes off so violently that she feared for her life?  That’s not normal, expected, typical young male behavior, it’s vile and evil — and a serious accusation to throw at someone with no evidence whatsoever.

     I cannot fathom what good this line of argument is supposed to do.  For his allies to say “well, it wasn’t that bad” only undermines his claim of absolute innocence. If Mark Judge had said “I remember that, and it was inappropriate but not to that level,” this would be a different discussion. But he says it never happened, Kavanaugh says it never happened, and all the witnesses give no indication that it ever did. So why not keep to the question of guilt or innocence?

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  14. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Anyone who never attended a party with drinking in high school either went to a religious school or had no social life. And where you have teenage kids and drinking, you will find some actions they wouldn’t want to read about in the press 30 years later. 

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  15. Henry Racette Member
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    Leigh (View Comment):

    If the allegation were proven even in part it would be absolutely disqualifying if only because of his absolute denials. Blatant lying to the Senate is a disqualification. (Which, incidentally, makes me more inclined to believe him — he had no need or reason for such sweeping denials unless he is pretty confident).

    That said, she didn’t describe rough-housing, flirtation gone too far, or groping. She described attempted rape. That’s not legitimately expected behavior from a teenage boy. To grab a young girl, pull her in a bedroom, force her onto a bed, and attempt to rip her clothes off so violently that she feared for her life? That’s not normal, expected, typical young male behavior, it’s vile and evil — and a serious accusation to throw at someone with no evidence whatsoever.

    I cannot fathom what good this line of argument is supposed to do. For his allies to say “well, it wasn’t that bad” only undermines his claim of absolute innocence. If Mark Judge had said “I remember that, and it was inappropriate but not to that level,” this would be a different discussion. But he says it never happened, Kavanaugh says it never happened, and all the witnesses give no indication that it ever did. So why not keep to the question of guilt or innocence?

    I agree with you that, if it were shown that he was lying in his denial, that would be grounds for dismissal. I don’t agree with the rest of what you said, and think you perhaps misunderstand the point of my post.

    I’m not saying that manhandling a woman as Mrs. Ford claims she was manhandled is a good thing, or even that it isn’t a bad thing. What I’m saying is that it isn’t a surprising thing, and that things like that happen often when drunk young men are allowed to associate with drunk young woman in an unsupervised fashion.

    Based on the description of the event as reported by Mrs. Ford, and in particular her claimed fear that the young man might kill her, I think she’s probably a bit of a drama queen, and that she’s probably ruminated on this story for decades and — probably quite innocently — turned an unpleasant moment of rough groping into a harrowing experience. That’s what I think. That’s my charitable interpretation; the less charitable one is that she’s simply lying.

    But what I know is that young men do stuff like this under the influence of alcohol, and young women shouldn’t be allowed to hang out with them. The most stupid part of the feminist movement is its anti-woman insistence that boys and girls are or should be a lot alike when it comes to sex; Mrs. Ford’s purported plight is the consequence of believing that kind of foolishness.

    When people characterize fairly normal drunken male misbehavior as something unusual, it sends the mistaken message that most drunk boys are gentlemen around most drunk girls, and that you can put them together in a bedroom and not expect something unfortunate to happen.

    I suspect Mrs. Ford’s account is full of histrionics. But even if its verisimilitude is unimpeachable, it doesn’t describe — what I’ve read of it — something about a particular male that would make me seriously question his future adult behavior. It describes a young, drunk, boorish boy on the make in a situation that shouldn’t have been allowed to happen, for any of their sakes.

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  16. Henry Racette Member
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    Leigh (View Comment):
    So why not keep to the question of guilt or innocence?

    Because that wasn’t the topic of the post. I wanted to talk about the reality of young men, versus the mistaken idea that is implied by the “this charge, if true, is very serious” claim that I keep seeing. It isn’t a post about Kavanaugh. It’s a post about the routine and now under-appreciated  danger inherent in young girls being left alone with drunken young men.

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  17. Dorrk Inactive
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Leigh (View Comment):

    That said, she didn’t describe rough-housing, flirtation gone too far, or groping. She described attempted rape. That’s not legitimately expected behavior from a teenage boy. To grab a young girl, pull her in a bedroom, force her onto a bed, and attempt to rip her clothes off so violently that she feared for her life? That’s not normal, expected, typical young male behavior, it’s vile and evil — and a serious accusation to throw at someone with no evidence whatsoever.

    Based on the description of the event as reported by Mrs. Ford, and in particular her claimed fear that the young man might kill her, I think she’s probably a bit of a drama queen, and that she’s probably ruminated on this story for decades and — probably quite innocently — turned an unpleasant moment of rough groping into a harrowing experience. That’s what I think. That’s my charitable interpretation; the less charitable one is that she’s simply lying.

    This is a good comparison of the competing imaginings of the alleged event. I can see why someone who imagines the Leigh’s interpretation would be outraged, while someone who imagines Henry’s wouldn’t. I would guess that Henry’s version is the far more common one: drunk boy carelessly corners and tries to put moves on girl, but is too drunk or half-hearted in his attempt and she maneuvers away; he gives up easily (do rapists give up so easily?) and doesn’t pursue her. Barring more evidence, I tend to assume common occurrences more than I do rare ones, and since in her own initial account she avoids the word “rape,” I see no reason to jump to the rare conclusion.

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  18. Leigh Inactive
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    I’m evaluating the charges she actually alleges, because given that Kavanaugh denies them totally and that no other culprit is under discussion I see no profit in trying to discern whether something less serious might have happened.

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I suspect Mrs. Ford’s account is full of histrionics. But even if it’s verisimilitude is unimpeachable, it doesn’t describe — what I’ve read of it — something about a particular male that would make me seriously question his future adult behavior. It describes a young, drunk, boorish boy on the make in a situation that shouldn’t have been allowed to happen, for any of their sakes.

    You’re correct that this is where we disagree. I certainly agree that young men under the influence of alcohol have a tendency to do things that they ought not (and that this is an excellent reason to stay out of such situations).  I disagree that this reality means that the things that happen in those situations don’t have consequences — potentially lifelong consequences.

    If a young man has a hangover, skips work once two many times, and gets fired, he can rehabilitate his reputation someday.  If he acts like a jerk and gets a disorderly conduct charge, he can give evidence of change and move past that.

    But young men (and women) under the influence of alcohol also sometimes drive drunk — sometimes with deadly consequences — or get into fights that end with someone badly hurt or dead.   In such cases, the consequences are serious and to some extent lifelong. Beto O’Rourke’s drunk-driving past is and should be a legitimate issue, but so far as I know no one was seriously hurt.

    Attempted rape falls into the “lifelong” consequence category for me.  If you try to do that to someone weaker than you, that should disqualify you for high office.

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  19. Sash Member
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    I think this is true, and I think many people ignore human nature when they talk about the world.

    I also don’t think a drunk teenage girl would be so traumatized this would affect her future life.

    Just experience of being a teenager in that same era, and just not surprised that something like that would happen, whoever was involved.  But I am surprised that she would claim it ruined her life.  That she repressed the memory as though she was actually raped in a violent life threatening way, while completely sober.

    I don’t find her story at all believable because of that more than anything else, her reaction does not have the ring of truth.

    However, I’m not saying she wasn’t abused at some point, just not that this incident would produce the terror she claims it did. This could have happened and worse later, or before… but this one thing… I just don’t think so.

    Who were the adults who allowed those kids to drink in their house?  Who was responsible for a fifteen year old girl, that allowed her to be in a situation of 4 to 1 boys, drunk in bathing suits?

    The adults are who are accountable for this, if it happened, whoever the young man was, if he was 17 and drunk, there is an adult who allowed that to happen.

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  20. Henry Racette Member
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    Leigh (View Comment):
    I disagree that this reality means that the things that happen in those situations [young men under the influence of alcohol] don’t have consequences — potentially lifelong consequences.

    You’ll never hear me make that argument. They often do have lifelong consequences. I don’t actually believe that they do in Mrs. Ford’s case, based on her generally flaky approach to this whole matter, but of course we can’t know for sure.

    Leigh (View Comment):
    Basically, you’re saying that you think something with someone happened to her but it probably wasn’t as bad as described.

    That is my suspicion, yes. Again, none of us knows; I’d argue that, by this time, even she might not know. But that’s my suspicion. I doubt very much that she was in danger of dying; I’m skeptical that she was in danger of being raped. She may believe both, but I don’t.

    Leigh (View Comment):
    Attempted rape falls into the “lifelong” consequence category for me. If you try to do that to someone weaker than you, that should disqualify you for high office.

    I would agree with that — whether or not the person is “weaker than you.”

    I don’t think this situation, as described by Mrs. Ford, qualifies as attempted rape — nor as attempted murder, though one might argue that as well, given her description.

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  21. Leigh Inactive
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Leigh (View Comment):
    So why not keep to the question of guilt or innocence?

    Because that wasn’t the topic of the post. I wanted to talk about the reality of young men, versus the mistaken idea that is implied by the “this charge, if true, is very serious” claim that I keep seeing. It isn’t a post about Kavanaugh. It’s a post about the routine and now under-appreciated danger inherent in young girls being left alone with drunken young men.

    I suppose I don’t think that’s the most profitable discussion to have in this particular case.

    EDIT (after your response): Also, I’m finding it a little muddied because it’s still not clear to me whether your original post is discussing her full accusation, or what you think more likely actually happened. Is your statement that you think it should have no bearing on a man’s character based on some sort of drunken struggle now interpreted differently (as seemed entirely plausible when this story first broke)?  Or on her allegations exactly as described?

    Because if a woman is physically forced into a room and someone stronger than her is attempting to pull her clothes off, yes, she’s in legitimate terror of being raped. That level of violence — given substantial evidence — should be disqualifying, and frankly I have a hard time believing we’re debating that.  If that is not what you’re trying to argue, I’d suggest the post isn’t quite clear on that point.

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  22. DonG Coolidge
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    I think the details of the Ford accusation could easily be worked into a teen romance novel, because context matters.  However, the debate is whether anything happened or not.

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  23. Bunwick Chiffswiddle Member
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment): Anyone who never attended a party with drinking in high school either went to a religious school or had no social life.

    Teenage social life is vastly overrated.

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  24. Cato Rand Inactive
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    I think there’s a real danger in suggesting that what’s alleged to have happened – if true – isn’t serious or important.  It might have been traumatic for professor Ford and we should certainly prefer to minimize the number of such episodes.  Still, I can’t help but wonder how many male congressmen or senators (R or D) could pass the Kavanaugh test?  Or sitting male federal judges?  Certainly the president wouldn’t.

    It goes too far to say “everybody does it,” but certainly many, many fine men, accomplished in all walks of life, good husbands, good fathers, good leaders and good citizens, behaved badly at some point or other in their youth under the influence of alcohol.

    I’ve spent far too much time lately considering what I think of these allegations but I think I’m just coming around to the belief that, after enough years of exemplary adulthood, pretty much any youthful misdeed should cease to be disqualifying.  If he had Clinton or Trump like problems – mistreatment of women that extended well past middle age – I’d say it was a character problem that should probably disqualify him.  But the fact that he might once have been a drunken, horny adolescent, much as it’s to be regretted, just doesn’t do it for me.  To apply that standard, as we lawyers like to say, “proves too much.”  It just casts too wide a net without generating any meaningful benefit in the quality of the people we’ll get for important posts.

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  25. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    It’s a post about the routine and now under-appreciated danger inherent in young girls being left alone with drunken young men.

    As the mother of two sons and two daughters, may I just remind all here that drunken young girls are not all sweet little innocents. If a drunk teenage girl is all over a similarly drunk young boy and he responds, is he guilty of sexual assault while she has no responsibility? 

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  26. JustmeinAZ Member
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Anyone who never attended a party with drinking in high school either went to a religious school or had no social life. And where you have teenage kids and drinking, you will find some actions they wouldn’t want to read about in the press 30 years later.

    I had a social life in HS, but never went to a party, with or without drinking. I guess we just weren’t a party school. I take that back – we had (girls only) slumber parties and beach parties. Still no drinking. None.

     

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  27. Arahant Member
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):
    If a drunk teenage girl is all over a similarly drunk young boy and he responds, is he guilty of sexual assault while she has no responsibility?

    Depends on the ages and the laws of the state. When I was growing up, the law in the state I grew up in was such that a fourteen-year-old male who made whoopee with a seventeen-year-old female would have committed statutory rape. The law has since been changed. But imagine an eighth-grade boy being seduced by a high-school senior young woman, and he’s the one committing the crime. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many “crimes” that were committed under that law where the boy was the one being seduced.

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  28. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Watching the Fox News interview.  He doesn’t give much of an interview, but on the plus side, he does seem like a choir boy.

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  29. Bunwick Chiffswiddle Member
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    Henry Racette: I’m merely saying that it is to be expected: there is nothing good and appropriate about a bunch of kids being left alone to drink and carry on, and the consequences of allowing that kind of situation are going to tend to be bad regardless of the character of the kids involved.

    I’m not sure I agree with this.

    The opportunity for unsupervised carousing and drinking is itself a filtering mechanism. Not all kids will take this opportunity. For those who do, the consequences are bad — but that’s because the party selects for people whose definition of “fun” is “chugging six beers, stumbling around (out-of-sync, of course) to the latest pop hit, and vomiting on the kitchen floor.”

    In high school, I was too haughty, too risk-averse, and too socially awkward to care about the party scene. Most of my friends were video-game-addicted Koreans and teetotaling Muslims, and they, too, avoided the sort of drunken reveling that Ford describes. At Hillsdale, I met people whose idea of a good time is a rollicking philosophical argument lubricated only by a glass of wine. (Now, that’s a party I can get behind!)

    What’s my point? Only that some people overestimate the universality of wild partying’s appeal.

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  30. Jon1979 Inactive
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    While teens excessively drinking alcohol behind their parents’ backs and behaving immorally is as old as the moment humans learned how to produce alcohol, this particular teen went through Georgetown Prep and Yale — neither of them bastions of conservatism — and as of early Monday evening, neither of Kavanaugh’s two main accusers has been able to find a witness to swear under oath that this particular teenage male behaved immorally.

    If you were a current liberal who went to either place in the 1980s and now had the chance hammer the nail in the Kavanaugh coffin by providing details of his actions during his Georgetown Prep or Yale years, wouldn’t you step forward (and I suppose there could be someone the Democrats are holding in the wings to fit that bill, who’ll be trotted out at the hearing. But as hyperbolic as the media and other Democrats have been in this whole thing, it’s hard to believe they could keep an actual corroborating witness hidden this long without trumpeting him or her to the world).

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