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Leftists Are the Party of Pagan Weather Gods, Not Science

 

Earlier this week, the Washington Post ran an opinion piece titled “Another hurricane is about to batter our coast. Trump is complicit.” The gist of the article is that Trump has shown a bad attitude about Obama’s climate regulations and that is why the weather gods are sending a hurricane to punish America.

What kind of people believe that the mindset of a leader affects weather? It is certainly not any person of science. I did some research and it seems the idea of vengeful weather gods is the beliefs of Pagans. Checking with Witchipedia.com, the Leftists’ deity is Adad (Master of the Earth who is a Mesopotamian Storm God responsible for the destructive and regenerative powers of nature).

For those that are science-oriented, you probably already know that a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture (about 3 percent per degree C). Which means a storm that might have dropped 33″ of rain a century ago, could drop 34″ today. Not much difference. You also know that weather is too complex to determine any relationship between ocean/atmosphere and storm formation/strength. If you looked at the limited data from the last century, you might say cooling periods of the ocean temperatures bring bigger storms, but you would be just speculating.

Good luck to our friends in the Carolinas. May you be safe and sound and let this be an experience where a sense of unity brings out the best in neighbors. May the rest of us be generous as we remember that the poorest among us have the weakest housing and are most vulnerable to flooding.

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  1. Member

    And they call us the science-deniers. They can’t even look in their own underpants to figure out which sex they are, and now this.

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    • September 12, 2018 at 10:34 pm
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  2. Member

    Sally there is nothing new here. At least since President Reagan’s time natural disasters have been reported as being more severe during Republican administration’s . They used similar tactics when talking about homelessness, which, going by news reports seemed to disappear when Democrats took the White House only to return with a vengeance as soon as they departed. Real life Voodoo economics .

    It’s a sad fact that government thrives on disaster .That’s when agencies can provide emergency help and get headlines . So it’s not surprising to see the party of big government salivating over the latest coming disaster and using this one to slam the current designated fall guy for being insufficiently exercised about potential destruction .It’s just what they do . 

    Nor is it suprising to see them use quotes from friendly scientists to bolster their spurious claims about what causes big storms, something we’re only beginning to understand . Complicit media has its own reasons to report this kind of “news’ without troubling themselves with factual analysis. Disaster sells. Destruction sells . No one is interested in reading about how building codes, preparation and rapid response teams are working to make storms less destructive and more survivable than they were in our past. Still a little balance when Democrats were in residence would be nice . Sigh. 

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    • September 13, 2018 at 1:49 am
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    OkieSailor (View Comment):
    Nor is it suprising to see them use quotes from friendly scientists to bolster their spurious claims about what causes big storms, something we’re only beginning to understand .

    Those friendly scientists are paid by government, either directly or through grants. And the Deep State calls the shots. 

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    • September 13, 2018 at 4:06 am
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  4. Member

    The Party of Science!

     

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    • September 13, 2018 at 5:54 am
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  5. Coolidge

    Kozak (View Comment):

    The Party of Science!

     

    Yup. They make our faith-based, Republican science-denial look so unhinged.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 5:57 am
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    LOL. I’m in Wilmington. From hour to hour the forecast on this hurricane changes.

    It was going to be a cat 4, worst ever. Now it’s a cat 2 and weakening. Landfall can be anywhere from Hatteras to Georgia. 

    But in their hubris the Progs think they can predict the climate decades or centuries into the future, and have the exact solution to their perceived problem. Which, funny, is the exact same solution they had in the 70’s when the predicted problem was freezing. More government, more regulation, more constraints on growth and the economy.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 5:59 am
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  7. Reagan

    Vectorman (View Comment):

    OkieSailor (View Comment):
    Nor is it suprising to see them use quotes from friendly scientists to bolster their spurious claims about what causes big storms, something we’re only beginning to understand .

    Those friendly scientists are paid by government, either directly or through grants. And the Deep State calls the shots.

    Hush you, I work with some of those Government Scientists. They are astutely aware of which side of the bread their butter is laid.

    Honestly, it takes an extraordinary fish too depart from the safety of the school, and swim on his own volition and not get eaten by the sharks.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 6:50 am
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    DonG:

     

    For those that are science oriented, you probably already know that a warmer ocean can hold more moisture (about 3% per degree C).

    This doesn’t seem right to me. I think that you mean that a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture.

    The ocean is essentially 100% moisture, with a pinch of salt.

     

     

     

     

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    • September 13, 2018 at 7:30 am
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    The idea that hurricanes are divine punishments for climate sins is ridiculous. They are divine punishments for sexual sins. The proof is that Hurricane Katrina destroyed much of New Orleans to force the cancellation of an annual six-day homosexual celebration called “Southern Decadence.”

    Yes, this really did happen. No, I don’t think that it was a real case of cause-and-effect.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 7:35 am
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  10. Reagan

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    DonG:

     

    For those that are science oriented, you probably already know that a warmer ocean can hold (has) more moisture energy (about 3% per degree C).

    This doesn’t seem right to me. I think that you mean that a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture.

    (this is also true, psychometric chart)

    The ocean is essentially 100% moisture, with a pinch of salt.

    I think he meant energy (i.e. higher on the sensible heating curve), the warmer the water the more readily it can be evaporated (i.e. the latent heat line), then sucked into the hurricane’s vortex and finally redistributed as flooding rains as the hurricane collapses over land

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    • September 13, 2018 at 7:52 am
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    I’ve just told myself to expect September to be silly season for climate alarmists from now on. Luckily it passes quickly. They evidently now think that barking at annual hurricanes is the best case for their agenda, whatever it is. The WaPo piece might be a new low though. Sad thing is they know they can get away with this unscientific pagan vulgarity, because they’ll get zero pushback from any of the MSM or actual scientists.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 7:59 am
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    I spent a couple of years immersed in all things geology. As part of my obsession, I was reading the daily “earth” report in the New York Times. On any given day anywhere on the planet, there are volcanoes erupting and earthquakes, both under the ocean floor and on the continents. It is astounding how unsettled this planet is.

    Every time a volcano erupts under the ocean floor, the temperature of that patch of ocean goes up. The temperature increase stirs the air above that patch of ocean. When there is a rash of hurricanes, chances are really good that there’s been quite a lot of seismic activity somewhere under the ocean floor.

    I have no doubt that human activity can affect the climate in small patches of the earth’s total mass. Put up enough skyscrapers in Chicago and you’ve created wind tunnels and the “windy city.” But when we see a rash of hurricanes such as the ones that happened in the Atlantic in 2004 and 2005, the cause is most likely massive geological events under the ocean floor.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 8:00 am
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  13. Coolidge

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I spent a couple of years immersed in all things geology. As part of my obsession, I was reading the daily “earth” report in the New York Times. On any given day anywhere on the planet, there are volcanoes erupting and earthquakes, both under the ocean and on the continents. It is astounding how unsettled this planet is.

    Every time a volcano erupts on the ocean floor, the temperature of that patch of ocean goes up. The temperature increase stirs the air above that patch of ocean. When there is a rash of hurricanes, chances are really good that there’s been quite a lot of seismic activity somewhere under the ocean floor.

    I have no doubt that human activity can affect the climate in small patches of the earth’s total mass. Put up enough skyscrapers in Chicago and you’ve created wind tunnels and the “windy city.” But when we see a rash of hurricanes such as the ones that happened in the Atlantic in 2004 and 2005, the cause is most likely massive geological events under the ocean floor.

    And as we all know, seismic activity results mainly from Trump’s pro-fracking policies..

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    • September 13, 2018 at 9:13 am
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    when we see a rash of hurricanes such as the ones that happened in the Atlantic in 2004 and 2005, the cause is most likely massive geological events under the ocean floor.

    It is not! It’s Republicans!

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    • September 13, 2018 at 9:22 am
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    when we see a rash of hurricanes such as the ones that happened in the Atlantic in 2004 and 2005, the cause is most likely massive geological events under the ocean floor.

    It is not! It’s Republicans!

    The funniest story that came out of Hurricane Katrina was that for twenty years, the Army Corps of Engineers had been watching a peg the Corps had planted on a piece of rock to gauge water levels in the area of the dam that ultimately broke. The Corps detected no changes.

    During the post-Katrina investigation of the dam break, the Corps’ engineers discovered that the entire piece of rock that the peg had been driven into had sunk (or risen, I’ve forgotten which). They could see it from satellite images, but they had never detected it from the ground readings that they had faithfully taken over the years.

    I’ve been trying to find the story for a couple of years now, but I haven’t been able to find it among the trillions of articles now on the Internet. You’ll just have to take my word for it.

    The idea that our neighbor’s SUV or combustion engine lawn mower is causing hurricanes is ludicrous and downright funny.

    On the earth, we are ants. :-) We make great anthills, but in the grand scheme of things, we are minuscule.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 9:29 am
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    when we see a rash of hurricanes such as the ones that happened in the Atlantic in 2004 and 2005, the cause is most likely massive geological events under the ocean floor.

    It is not! It’s Republicans!

    The funniest story that came out of Hurricane Katrina was that for twenty years, the Army Corps of Engineers had been watching a peg the Corps had planted on a piece of rock to gauge water levels in the area of the dam that ultimately broke. The Corps detected no changes.

    During the post-Katrina investigation of the dam break, the Corps’ engineers discovered that the entire piece of rock that the peg had been driven into had sunk. They could see it from satellite images, but they never detected it from ground readings that they had faithfully taken over the years.

    I’ve been trying to find the story for a couple of years now, but I haven’t been able to find it among the trillions of articles now on the Internet. You’ll just have to take my word for it.

    The idea that our neighbor’s SUV or combustion engine lawn mower is causing hurricanes is ludicrous and downright funny.

    On the earth, we are ants. :-) We make great anthills, but in the grand scheme of things, we are minuscule.

    Uhhhhh Marci,

    I would not use ants as the best example of being insignificant.

     

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    • September 13, 2018 at 9:35 am
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    GLDIII (View Comment):
    Uhhhhh Marci,

    I would not use ants as the best example of being insignificant.

    Wow.

    I’m not surprised actually. Termites and carpenter ants can fell an entire house! Many old homes on Cape Cod have been decimated by termites and carpenter ants.

    You’re right. I came up with a really bad example. :-)

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    • September 13, 2018 at 10:11 am
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    This is a little off-topic, but I went to a site where I could view the painting a little larger. It was painted, IIRC, around 1900. I admit that I know little about art, but it seems to me that the Renaissance masters could hardly do better. What am I missing?

    Joshua Bissey (View Comment):
    And as we all know, seismic activity results mainly from Trump’s pro-fracking policies..

    That bastard!

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    • September 13, 2018 at 4:53 pm
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    Kozak has it figured out………Impossible! The Left owns science…Anyone Center-Right is a denier. Some of the troglodytes who inhabit Ricochet probably think that California’s Bullet Train from ‘Somewhere near Fresno to Somewhere near Bakersfield‘ is a bad idea too. What could be further from the truth now that recent estimates are that it could run $1Billion/Mile for a mere 300 miles? It’s obvious we also need to have a Manhattan style program to create powdered water—(just add water) —to solve the drought. Being a Californian I also understand that Prop 13 has some sort of causal relationship to this Global Warming crisis.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 9:43 pm
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    Dr.Guido (View Comment):

    Impossible! The Left owns science…Anyone Center-Right is a denier. Some of the troglodytes who inhabit Ricochet probably think that California’s Bullet Train from ‘Somewhere near Fresno to Somewhere near Bakersfield‘ is a bad idea too. What could be further from the truth now that recent estimates are that it could run $1Billion/Mile for a mere 300 miles?

    I’d like to see them pay for that after all the normal people leave and the tax base consists of illegals and the homeless.

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    • September 13, 2018 at 9:45 pm
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    The left has information about “science” that is not available to the rest of us. For example, only they know that vaccines cause autism, that GMO foods will kill us all, and that incandescent light bulbs will melt the polar ice caps. Only they know that there are massive islands of plastic straws clogging the oceans (the islands are invisible, you know, so we can’t see them). Only they know the dangers of eating gluten, or animal products, or food that is not organic (even though the word “organic” doesn’t actually mean anything). Only they know that water vapor will kill you if it comes out of a tube that looks like a cigarette. Only they know that polar bears are extinct and Florida is under water – they warned us this was coming as early as the 80’s. Only they know the horrifying dangers ozone depletion, DDT and, oh yeah, 32 oz. sodas. Thank God there are some people out there who understand science.

    While I’m on the subject let me just ask this: Am I the only one who gets annoyed at the idiot television reporters who go out and stand right in the middle of the storm, as they report that evacuation orders have been issued and urge people to comply? Can’t they read their damn teleprompter from someplace safe?

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    • September 14, 2018 at 5:16 am
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    While I’m on the subject let me just ask this: Am I the only one who gets annoyed at the idiot television reporters who go out and stand right in the middle of the storm, as they report that evacuation orders have been issued and urge people to comply? Can’t they read their damn teleprompter from someplace safe?

    I know this is not charitable, but I think if a piece of debis walloped one of those fame seeking jabronies on live TV, it would serve as a deterrent to all who think it could never happen to me. Especially since it would be difficult to get EMT services to the site they got whacked.

    Sometime your need a Darwinian example to keep the herd strong…..

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    • September 14, 2018 at 5:29 am
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  23. Coolidge

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Dr.Guido (View Comment):

    Impossible! The Left owns science…Anyone Center-Right is a denier. Some of the troglodytes who inhabit Ricochet probably think that California’s Bullet Train from ‘Somewhere near Fresno to Somewhere near Bakersfield‘ is a bad idea too. What could be further from the truth now that recent estimates are that it could run $1Billion/Mile for a mere 300 miles?

    I’d like to see them pay for that after all the normal people leave and the tax base consists of illegals and the homeless.

    Especially now that us evil Republicans have increased the tax burden on the poor from 0% to 0%.

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    iWe

    GLDIII (View Comment):
    I know this is not charitable, but I think if a piece of debis walloped on of those fame seeking jabronies on live TV, it was serve as a deterrent to all who think it could never happen to me.

    There is a great Dave Barry book in which the weather reporters, and eventually most of the TV station are killed off (in various ingenious and hysterical ways) covering a coastal storm. Fittingly, they are the only fatalities.

    It is just a wonderful read.

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    • September 14, 2018 at 6:30 am
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    iWe

    A really good first step would be NOT naming weather systems.When we anthropomorphize storms, we allow people to blur the lines between people and inanimate events.

    Weather is not deities or demigods or personalities with self-awareness. 

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    iWe (View Comment):

    A really good first step would be NOT naming weather systems.When we anthropomorphize storms, we allow people to blur the lines between people and inanimate events.

    Weather is not deities or demigods or personalities with self-awareness.

    Now that you mention it, I knew a girl named Florence – she tended to ‘fizzle out’ but ‘cried’ a lot too.

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    • September 14, 2018 at 7:54 am
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    Larry3435 (View Comment):

    … Am I the only one who gets annoyed at the idiot television reporters who go out and stand right in the middle of the storm, as they report that evacuation orders have been issued and urge people to comply? Can’t they read their damn teleprompter from someplace safe?

    Haha I was just thinking that while watching a reporter clinging to a lamp post while talking.

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    • September 14, 2018 at 8:48 am
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    DonG Post author

    MarciN (View Comment):
    Every time a volcano erupts under the ocean floor, the temperature of that patch of ocean goes up. The temperature increase stirs the air above that patch of ocean.

    There is a school of thought that gravitational influences from sun/Jupiter/saturn can cause periods of higher rift activity and this energy release can change ocean currents and that can drive weather patterns. Maybe snow in England or drought in Spain or hurricanes in the Caribbean. A big unknown. The important thing is that the IPCC “experts” ignore all external influences other than TSI (total solar irradiance). Of course they conclude CO2/humans, because they ignore all other influences. I think the best hypothesis for primary influence is magnetic interaction with sun/Jupiter.

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    DonG Post author

    #OMyGod (View Comment):
    Especially now that us evil Republicans have increased the tax burden on the poor from 0% to 0%.

    Why do you assert that the tax rate is non-negative? 22.5 % of returns have a negative income tax rate.

    https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/effective-tax-rate-size-income

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    • September 14, 2018 at 9:03 am
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    Larry3435 (View Comment):
    even though the word “organic” doesn’t actually mean anything

    I always thought it meant something had carbon in it.

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