Trump-Haters Concede the Presidency’s Success

 

The Trump-hating media is pushing the anonymous Op-Ed and the Woodward book. Which is curious, because in their zeal to attack Trump they’re conceding two key points.

  • If you can take your eyes off the bloviating reality TV figure, you might notice that his administration is run by fine people and is remarkably successful.
  • The moral, courageous, and patriotic thing to do during the Trump presidency is to work with the president to try to achieve the best (or least worst) results. Mocking or threatening to blacklist the people who work with or for the president is wrong. This is true even — especially — if you think Trump is Hitler or mentally unstable. This “let’s make sure the White House is only staffed by Bannon, Omarosa and Manafort” strategy is insane on every level.

President Trump should stop screaming treason and start celebrating that his haters are acknowledging these key points.

Something like this:

 “Even the media is finally coming around to recognize how great this presidency is. They won’t give me any credit of course. But they realize that people are seeing how much better things are getting for all Americans. So they say “yeah this is a great presidency for the American people but it’s not because of the president.” That’s OK, I don’t need the credit. I like the credit. But it’s not what’s important. Besides, I know the truth and you know the truth. Together, we’re making America great again.

“The FakeNews media will never admit that they’re wrong, but they keep being wrong, so they keep changing their lies.

“The FakeNews media said I wouldn’t really run for the president.

“When the FakeNews media turned out to be wrong about me running they said ‘yeah, but he’ll lose all the debates.’ Remember that?

“When the FakeNews media turned out to be wrong about me winning the debates they said ‘yeah, but he won’t win any primaries.’

“When the FakeNews media turned out to be wrong about me winning primaries they said ‘yeah, but he has a low ceiling so he can never get the nomination.’

“When the FakeNews media turned out to be wrong about me winning the nomination they said ‘yeah, but he’s going to get crushed in the election. He’s going to lose by a landslide and he’s going to cost the Republicans the House and Senate.’

“When the FakeNews media turned out to be wrong about me winning the election, and us winning the House and Senate, they said ‘yeah but the economy will crash. The Dow will probably never get back over 18,000.’ Remember that? The Dow is over 26,000 now. That’s a lot of money for your retirement plans, and any other stock you have, and it means more employers are creating great American jobs for the great American people.

“When the FakeNews media turned out to be wrong about the economy they just kept finding new ways to say we’d fail. But we didn’t fail. We kept winning. And they can’t stand it, but it’s too obvious for them to keep lying about.

“So now the FakeNews media realize how wrong they were about my presidency and they’re saying ‘yeah, but it’s not him, it’s the people who work for him.’ Of course it’s the people who work for me! They’re great people. They’re doing great things. When you hire great people and they do great things, you should get a little bit of credit, right. Just like you guys hired me, and I’m doing great things, you guys deserve the credit, right? And thank you, thank you so much for having faith in me, and in my team, because even the FakeNews media is finally admitting that we — you, me, the presidency, the American people — are doing great.

“And you know, one day the FakeNews media will give me credit. You know when that will be? After I finished my second term and the FakeNews media is trying to attack the next Republican. Or when I’m dead maybe. The FakeNews media will all be ‘why can’t today’s Republicans be like that nice Donald Trump?’ It’s not so bad. You know who has it worse? Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Because I’ll be done in 6 years and then the FakeNews can stop pretending to hate me and start pretending they liked me. But Justice Kavanaugh is going to be on the Supreme Court for another thirty or so years, so it’s going to be about 2050 before the FakeNews starts pretending they liked him.”

Published in Politics
This post was promoted to the Main Feed by a Ricochet Editor at the recommendation of Ricochet members. Like this post? Want to comment? Join Ricochet’s community of conservatives and be part of the conversation. Join Ricochet for Free.

There are 41 comments.

Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.
  1. Columbo Inactive
    Columbo
    @Columbo

    The person who agrees with you 80% of the time is a friend and an ally – not a 20% traitor.

    … President Ronald Reagan

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/5830806275001/?#sp=show-clips

     

    • #1
  2. OkieSailor Member
    OkieSailor
    @OkieSailor

    Nice thought, maybe he’ll read your post and decide to take lessons in communication…Naaahh.

    If only he could be persuaded to actually talk like that then, combined with the good things this Administration is doing, it would be almost perfect. Well, a lot better anyway. However, I’ve given up expecting him to change, he is who he is. I’m completely willing to take the bad with the good since the good is very good. Actions over meaningless words, every time is how I gauge it. 

    • #2
  3. Phil Turmel Inactive
    Phil Turmel
    @PhilTurmel

    Main Feed, please!  So Trump can read this!

    • #3
  4. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    The interesting corollary about this is that Trump’s become the Distractor-In-Chief, in that if you go back and look at the normal game plan Democrats run against Republican presidents, in trotting out homeless people, or people in some area without jobs, or something designed to tug at the heartstrings of swing voters, they’re not doing that in any measured way. Instead, they’ve gone all-in on over-the-top hyperbole about every thing Trump does — People Will Die if the tax cuts are passed! People Will Die if Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed to the Supreme Court! People Will Die if Trump pardons the Thanksgiving turkey! People Will Die! People Will Die! People Will Die!

    It’s so shrill, and they’re so certain that the Next Big Thing will be the one that finally wins the swing voters over that they’ve sucked all the air out of the room for protesting Trump’s smaller actions, like the regulatory rollbacks of big government. All that flies under the radar here, where it wouldn’t have under even Reagan, because they’re gone all-in hyping the Scandal of the Day to the point they can’t focus on anything else.

    • #4
  5. Gil Reich Member
    Gil Reich
    @GilReich

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    People Will Die if the tax cuts are passed! People Will Die if Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed to the Supreme Court! People Will Die if Trump pardons the Thanksgiving turkey! People Will Die! People Will Die! People Will Die!

    I agree with your whole comment. With someone like Pence the whole agenda is under attack when they attack him. With Trump  they’re attacking the sideshow while the agenda goes through.

    • #5
  6. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Gil Reich: Which is curious, because in their zeal to attack Trump they’re conceding two key points.

    They are conceding a third point as well.

    The “Deep State” is not just in the fevered imaginations of the right. 

    If the anonymous Op Ed writer exists, then actual members of the no kidding “Resistance” exist as well. 

    • #6
  7. Gil Reich Member
    Gil Reich
    @GilReich

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Gil Reich: Which is curious, because in their zeal to attack Trump they’re conceding two key points.

    They are conceding a third point as well.

    The “Deep State” is not just in the fevered imaginations of the right.

    If the anonymous Op Ed writer exists, then actual members of the no kidding “Resistance” exist as well.

    Good point. He said they’re not the deep state, they’re the steady state, and then went on to describe the deep state. 

    • #7
  8. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    Goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    In my 50 years of voting Republican, I can never remember a president who was so blatantly attacked by a self-righteous, angry press aided by the same types on the fringe right. Thank heavens there are those who are willing to stand up for the Americans who voted for him. Without that support, we are nothing but a Banana Republic. And thank you for this article @Gilreich !

    • #8
  9. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    In my 50 years of voting Republican, I can never remember a president who was so blatantly attacked by a self-righteous, angry press aided by the same types on the fringe right. Thank heavens there are those who are willing to stand up for the Americans who voted for him. Without that support, we are nothing but a Banana Republic. And thank you for this article @Gilreich !

    The vast majority of voters in the Republican primaries of 2016 told exit pollsters they thought Trump was unfit to be President. Ridiculous rules of winner take all or winner take two thirds, as enforced by quislings like Manafort, Preibus and Spicer, is what is taking us down the road to being a Banana Republic, not those of us that see his lack of fitness and refuse to capitulate.

    • #9
  10. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    Goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    The vast majority of voters in the Republican primaries of 2016 told exit pollsters they thought Trump was unfit to be President.

    Vast majority? Which poll are you quoting and a link if you please? I do not believe it for one single second since every Republican I know voted for him fully believing they were voting for  someone to shake up the system and who wasn’t the typical pablum-spewing politician. 

    • #10
  11. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    Two thirds to three fourths of all Republican voters before the Indiana primary told exit pollsters that they were voting against Trump, as well as for some other candidate. While their votes were splintered they were almost unanimous in their distrust of Trump and what he would do to the Republican Party.

    I’ve done some google searching [I’m at work right now] and am having trouble finding this type of specific data. I hope you would trust my good faith when I say I am not making it up, it’s something I followed very closely at the time.

     

    • #11
  12. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    Goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    Two thirds to three fourths of all Republican voters before the Indiana primary told exit pollsters that they were voting against Trump, as well as for some other candidate. While their votes were splintered they were almost unanimous in their distrust of Trump and what he would do to the Republican Party.

    Most interesting since Trump’s vote in the primary was 53% compared to Cruz at 37% and Kasich at 7.5%. The Indiana win, in fact, was so significant that both Cruz and Kasich dropped out within days of the primary. Your facts are simply incorrect. 

    • #12
  13. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    Goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    I hope you would trust my good faith when I say I am not making it up, it’s something I followed very closely at the time.

    I, too, followed it closely. 

    • #13
  14. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    I said I was referring to the votes taken before the Indiana Primary. I agree that Trump’s blow out in that state effectively ended the contest. If we had had a free and fair convention where anti-Trump delegates were free to vote their conscience rather than straight jacket rules we might have prevailed with Scott Walker or some other acceptable candidate. If NBC had not strategically timed their release of the Access Hollywood tape until after the convention I’m pretty sure we would have had a different result.

    • #14
  15. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    That was a great post.  Thank you.

    • #15
  16. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    I said I was referring to the votes taken before the Indiana Primary. I agree that Trump’s blow out in that state effectively ended the contest. If we had had a free and fair convention where anti-Trump delegates were free to vote their conscience rather than straight jacket rules we might have prevailed with Scott Walker or some other acceptable candidate. If NBC had not strategically timed their release of the Access Hollywood tape until after the convention I’m pretty sure we would have had a different result.

    NBC’s actions were tied in with all the free media time they gave Trump’s speeches and rallies, and with very little criticism at all during the primary season. The reason of course, was the media assumed that Trump would be the easiest candidate for Hillary to beat in the November election, so why shouldn’t they give him coverage without negativity, why shouldn’t Joe and Mika spend months touting what BFFs they were with Donald and why should NBC release the “Access Hollywood” video before Trump secured the nomination? (if nothing else, Billy Bush got 3-4 months extra paychecks out of NBC due to their decision).

    • #16
  17. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    Goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    So, where are you Ricochet Trump haters? Can’t you concede any of the good things he’s done? 

    • #17
  18. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    I posted something I support on the other thread. Comment #256 on the Resistance Within thread.

    • #18
  19. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    If we had had a free and fair convention where anti-Trump delegates were free to vote their conscience rather than straight jacket rules we might have prevailed with Scott Walker or some other acceptable candidate.

    The RNC couldn’t, or didn’t properly react to the problem of having 17 candidates. Cruz would have won a two-step national primary. 

    The ultimate issue is, why do so many want Trump? Same for Bernie. 

     

    Trump vs. Hillary represents something much bigger: what we might call the end of politics, or at least the limits of politics. Americans, and Europeans too, are witnessing the end of the myth of democratic consensus. Democratic voting, so called, doesn’t yield some noble compromise between Left and Right, but only an entrenched political class and its system of patronage.

    link

     

    • #19
  20. Gil Reich Member
    Gil Reich
    @GilReich

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    In my 50 years of voting Republican, I can never remember a president who was so blatantly attacked by a self-righteous, angry press aided by the same types on the fringe right. Thank heavens there are those who are willing to stand up for the Americans who voted for him. Without that support, we are nothing but a Banana Republic. And thank you for this article @Gilreich !

    The vast majority of voters in the Republican primaries of 2016 told exit pollsters they thought Trump was unfit to be President.

    Yes, you can count me among them.

    Ridiculous rules of winner take all or winner take two thirds…

    Well, most rule systems have their flaws and vulnerabilities. These rules were no more ridiculous than the set that stuck the Dems with Hillary and Bernie voters feeling disenfranchised. But these were the rules that were in place and Trump won fair and square.

    , as enforced by quislings like Manafort, Preibus and Spicer

    They enforced the rules. As was their job.

    , is what is taking us down the road to being a Banana Republic, not those of us that see his lack of fitness and refuse to capitulate.

    OK, a lot going on in this last part here. The road to a Banana Republic is not paved by having an unfit president. We’ve had them before, we’ll have them again. It’s paved by people who try to subvert the result of an election.

    You see his lack of fitness?! Great! So do I. I also thought President Obama was unfit. And don’t get me started on Carter. But they were the president.

    Refuse to capitulate? So don’t capitulate. Just accept that the Republican party and then the American people elected this man, according to the rules under which the primaries and election took place. I’m not asking you to ever say anything nice about the man. I’m not objecting to your right to say horrible things about him. What I am saying is that it’s wrong for someone to take a White House paycheck while trying to subvert the president’s agenda and the will of the people, by, for example, undermining the trade policies on which the president was elected.

    Nobody should be capitulating. But the people I respect most are those like Nikki Haley, VP Pence and Majority Leader McConnell who are successfully doing everything they believe in and value through a mutually beneficial alliance with the president, despite that during the primaries they were among those who thought Donald Trump unfit. And despite some nastiness during the primaries. Nikki Haley’s “bless his heart” Tweet was one of my favorites.

    Those who won’t work with him, fine. But there’s a middle ground that’s not capitulation but that does respect American democracy.

    • #20
  21. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Superdelegates! That’s the solution!

    • #21
  22. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    Gil, I agree with almost everything you said with three exceptions, first I think the severity of Trump’s unfitness is beyond the pale and beyond anything we’ve witnessed from Carter or Nixon or anyone else. Second, the party rules gave Priebus et al discretion to amend the rules in extraordinary circumstances, and I believe Trump’s takeover qualified. Third, it makes my eyes start spinning and smoke come out of my ears when people that know better – starting with Peter Robinson and Victor Davis Hansen and most of Ricochet – speak nonchalantly about allowing this man be renominated and reelected without a fight. Where is your patriotism if you know this man is unfit in normal times, let alone in a potential crisis, and you’re going to leave your children entrusted to his care?

    Trump’s nomination and election required 500 black swan events to occur in perfect sequence. I do not feel his election was fatal to our democracy as it stands. But if we consciously and deliberately put this man back in the White House without the good people left standing up my faith in this country will be shaken,.

    • #22
  23. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    the party rules gave Priebus et al discretion to amend the rules in extraordinary circumstances, and I believe Trump’s takeover qualified.

    A guy getting votes in a primary is an extraordinary circumstance.

    Do you ever read what you write?

     

    • #23
  24. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    it makes my eyes start spinning and smoke come out of my ears when people that know better – starting with Peter Robinson and Victor Davis Hansen and most of Ricochet – speak nonchalantly about allowing this man be renominated and reelected without a fight.

    I would argue that the person with the spinning eyes and smoking ears is actually the person with the problem. 

    • #24
  25. Gil Reich Member
    Gil Reich
    @GilReich

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Gil, I agree with almost everything you said with three exceptions, first I think the severity of Trump’s unfitness is beyond the pale and beyond anything we’ve witnessed from Carter or Nixon or anyone else. … it makes my eyes start spinning and smoke come out of my ears when people that know better – starting with Peter Robinson and Victor Davis Hansen and most of Ricochet – speak nonchalantly about allowing this man be renominated and reelected without a fight. Where is your patriotism if you know this man is unfit in normal times, let alone in a potential crisis …

    I guess we need to start with your claim about his unprecedented unfitness. I think he’s less unfit than many of his predecessors. And so it seems do tens of millions of other Americans. No, you do not get to overrule them all. Yes, I am happy that Peter Robinson, VDH, most of Ricochet, and many other fine thinkers and writers reject the extreme and dangerous view that the president is illegitimate and must be removed.

    Trump’s nomination and election required 500 black swan events to occur in perfect sequence.

    No it didn’t. It just required both parties to drift so far from their voters’ views, values and interests that the people in both parties looked for someone from the outside.

    But if we consciously and deliberately put this man back in the White House without the good people left standing up my faith in this country will be shaken,.

    No worries, the good people will stand up and help keep President Trump in the White House until January 2025. I’m sorry your faith in the country will be shaken by so many good people not having the political views that you seem to think are self-evident.

    • #25
  26. Petty Boozswha Inactive
    Petty Boozswha
    @PettyBoozswha

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    the party rules gave Priebus et al discretion to amend the rules in extraordinary circumstances, and I believe Trump’s takeover qualified.

    A guy getting votes in a primary is an extraordinary circumstance.

    Do you ever read what you write?

     

    I think when an unfit demagogue gets 80% or 100% of the delegates when he’s won 22% of the votes, and the other 80% of the voters are adamantly opposed to him, that would qualify as a circumstance justifying changing the convention rules and allowing the elected delegates to vote their consciences.

    You are right about me getting too out of step with the rest of Ricochet on this issue. I gave myself a 90 day time-out before and I think I should do so again. I won’t be posting again until after the midterms, there is no purpose in me heckling your glee club. 

    • #26
  27. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    other 80% of the voters are adamantly opposed to him,

    Untrue. See Election, 2016.

    Plenty of those voters pulled the lever for him in the general election.

    They, therefore weren’t “adamantly opposed” to him.

     

    • #27
  28. Gil Reich Member
    Gil Reich
    @GilReich

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    other 80% of the voters are adamantly opposed to him,

    Untrue. See Election, 2016.

    Plenty of those voters pulled the lever for him in the general election.

    They, therefore weren’t “adamantly opposed” to him.

     

    I think she’s referring to the early Republican primaries. In some of them Trump got 30-40% of the vote but all or nearly all of the delegates from those states. And it seems many of the 60-70% in those races were adamantly opposed to Trump at the time.

    Trump’s nomination was indeed helped by winner-take-all rules that left the party vulnerable to a Trumpian takeover. And a crowded field of similar candidates, and highly irresponsible behavior of some of the candidates and their consultants. I like to think there’s a special place in hell for Right to Rise and similar grifters who spent insane sums attacking people the people they really hated, and not the one to whom they claimed to be adamantly opposed. I’m thrilled that those jerks and the candidates they supported are not in positions of power. Talk about unfit for the presidency, those guys lack basic decency and basic competence. But I digress.

    None of this matters. And the Republican party, including people like me who adamantly opposed Trump during the primaries, have come to solidly prefer him to the extremely frightening people trying to expel him from office.

    • #28
  29. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Gil Reich (View Comment):
    And the Republican party, including people like me who adamantly opposed Trump during the primaries, have come to solidly prefer him to the extremely frightening people trying to expel him from office.

    That’s the way I see it. 

     

    • #29
  30. Instugator Thatcher
    Instugator
    @Instugator

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gil Reich (View Comment):
    And the Republican party, including people like me who adamantly opposed Trump during the primaries, have come to solidly prefer him to the extremely frightening people trying to expel him from office.

    That’s the way I see it.

     

    Concur

    • #30
Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.