I Will!

 

I must admit that I was, rather uncharacteristically, at a loss as to what to write about today, so I noodled around on Google (goodled around on Noogle?) for a bit, looking up various iterations, in various forms, of the subject of Will, and it occurred to me at one point that the most recent Royal Wedding has ignited a rather unexpected debate on various “mommy blog” and social networking sites. A debate on a topic I last thought seriously about myself exactly 37 years, one week, and six days ago.

To put it plainly: People are talking about the proper way to celebrate and bless a marriage, and why Harry and Meghan said “I will” at a crucial time, rather than “I do.”

Now, you may rate the importance of this topic, in your own mind, somewhere down there with Liliput’s Big-Endian/Little-Endian controversy, but I’m a bit of a language nut aficionado, so it caught my interest.

I was raised a high church Anglican in the UK, and the church of my childhood adhered to the 1662 edition of the Book of Common Prayer. So the marriage ceremonies I attended in my youth contained the following direction and Q&A session:

If no impediment be alleged, then shall the Curate say unto the Man,

[Name]: WILT thou have this Woman to thy wedded Wife, to live together after God’s ordinance in the holy estate of Matrimony? Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all other, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?

The Man shall answer, “I will.”

Then shall the Priest say unto the Woman,

[Name]: WILT thou have this Man to thy wedded Husband, to live together after God’s ordinance in the holy estate of Matrimony? Wilt thou obey him, and serve him, love, honour, and keep him in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all other, keep thee only unto him, so long as ye both shall live?

The Woman shall answer, “I will.”

I’m a woman. Last time I checked, anyway. So, when I was asked the question in a slightly different way on July 24, 1981, that’s what I answered.

Now, it wasn’t exactly a traditional wedding. We got married in Conway, NH. On a camping trip. The bride wore shorts. The groom was hirsute, and wore jeans and a shirt that looked like one of Barry Gibb’s cast-offs. There were three children present; one acted as best man, one took photographs, and the third took the role of flower girl. The setting was lovely; a cottage garden filled with beautiful flowers and birds, including a few hummingbirds; and the officiant was a wonderful old gentleman who wanted things to be just right. So I said my piece (Ruth 1:16-17) and the about-to-be Mr. She said his (Sonnet 116). And at some point, I said, “I will.” (I can’t remember what Mr. She said, actually. Something, I suppose.)

Afterward, we repaired to The Elmwood for the reception, and if memory serves, we all ordered the Chicken Parmesan special, $1.45 a plate, and a piece of cake for dessert. Done and dusted. And within our budget of $25 per day for all five of us for the trip. And here we still are. So I guess it took. Hope it does for Harry and Meghan too. But, as usual, I digress. (Only, this time because Love. Something worth holding onto. And keeping. Wherever you find it and no matter what.)

The conclusion, as far as I can see, among the “I Do/I Will” crowd, most often fell on the side of “I Will!” being an exclamatory declaration of intent in perpetuity, as opposed to “I Do!” being more of an “in the moment” sort of thing. Intertwined with much (sometimes almost correct) history, speculation about the Church of England, Henry VIII, the Puritans, the fundamental differences between the Brits and the Yanks (who knew?), and Lord knows what else. A bit over-the-top, in my estimation. Me, I don’t judge. Either “I Will!” or “I Do!” is fine in my book, although I’m a bit of a stickler, and quite traditional with regard to the rituals of my faith, and I know which I prefer for myself.

Here’s another rather uncharacteristic gesture from me — a link to a Beatles song, in this case sung by an older Paul McCartney. That’s good, I think. I’m not really certain it’s a young man’s song. It’s the Lennon/McCartney song, “I Will,” originally released in 1968 on The White Album. I think this is a charming version, as one of the comments says, just one man and a guitar, owning the stage. (Can’t embed the link and play it here; the poster on YouTube has disabled play on other sites).

And another version, much slower in mood and tempo, from Alison Krauss. It takes her a while to get going, but I’m a sucker for some good banjo playing/pickin’, so I love this one too:

Let’s raise a glass to Love, wherever it may be found. I Will! How about you?

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  1. Stad Coolidge
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    She (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Whatever happened to obey? Not even in 1662?

    It’s in there. For the woman. And also in the vow. I was never too bothered by “obey,” I always figured that “with my body I thee worship” was a pretty good trade. And that it was very much a two-way street. Story about that later when I have something other than a phone to type on.

    I think the word “obey” harks back to the husband being the head of the household.  I think these days people believe it means the woman is a slave to the man, when nothing is further from the truth.

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  2. She Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Whatever happened to obey? Not even in 1662?

    It’s in there. For the woman. And also in the vow. I was never too bothered by “obey,” I always figured that “with my body I thee worship” was a pretty good trade. And that it was very much a two-way street. Story about that later when I have something other than a phone to type on.

    I think the word “obey” harks back to the husband being the head of the household. I think these days people believe it means the woman is a slave to the man, when nothing is further from the truth.

    Oh, I agree.  There’s a post in me somewhere on this and related subjects, but I can’t quite get myself in gear.  I need @arahant or a similar muse to compel me to start producing.

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  3. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    She (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    To me, the difference is how the vows are asked.

    If the question is, “Do you take this-“, then the correct way to answer is, “I do.” If the question is phrased, “Will you take this-“, then the proper way to answer is, “I will.”

    Note that the answer “I guess” works in both situations . . .

    Yeah. The question is different so the answer is different. I don’t know when, or how, that evolved either. “For now,” is the answer I often think most appropriate for the times, though. That’s the cynic in me coming out, I suppose.

    “Whatever.”

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  4. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    “Obey” made me think of this lovely passage from Dorothy L. Sayers’ Busman’s Honeymoon:

    6 September.—Helen obligingly presented us with a copy of the new form of marriage service, with all the vulgar bits left out—which was asking for trouble. Peter very funny about it—said he knew all about the “procreation of children,” in theory though not in practice, but that the “increase of mankind” by any other method sounded too advanced for him, and that, if he ever did indulge in such dangerous amusements, he would, with his wife’s permission, stick to the old-fashioned procedure. He also said that, as for the “gift of continence,” he wouldn’t have it as a gift, and had no objection to admitting as much. At this point, Helen got up and left the house, leaving P. and Harriet to wrangle over the word “obey.” P. said he would consider it a breach of manners to give orders to his wife, but H. said, Oh, no—he’d give orders fast enough if the place was on fire or a tree falling down and he wanted her to stand clear. P. said, in that case they ought both to say “obey,” but it would be too much jam for the reporters. Left them to fight it out. When I came back, found Peter had consented to be obeyed on condition he might “endow” and not “share” his worldly goods. Shocking victory of sentiment over principle.

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  5. Mark Wilson Inactive
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    I just told my wife the other day that I was glad we said “I will” at our wedding.

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  6. Skyler Coolidge
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    I had the perfect wedding.  I married my bride by video phone in 2005 while I was preparing to deploy to Iraq and she was in Austin.  Cost:  $0.  Expensive weddings are for the rich and suckers.  I don’t understand the impulse to spend yourself into bankruptcy to impress the neighbors and family.  If you have the kind of money to do it, I’m very happy for you, but I think more should be like mine.

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  7. She Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    I had the perfect wedding. I married my bride by video phone in 2005 while I was preparing to deploy to Iraq and she was in Austin. Cost: $0. Expensive weddings are for the rich and suckers. I don’t understand the impulse to spend yourself into bankruptcy to impress the neighbors and family. If you have the kind of money to do it, I’m very happy for you, but I think more should be like mine.

    Good for you!  That does sound nice.  I hope you’re not dismissing my wedding as one of those “spend yourself into bankruptcy” affairs because we all had the $1.45 Chicken Parmesan special and a piece of cake afterwards!

    I did enjoy the preparations, and the wedding, for my stepdaughter.  We’re both pretty crafty, and there were a lot of nice touches that took very little money.  I completely agree that going into debt for wedding expenses is very risky and probably not a great idea.

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  8. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Not to get tense about someone’s wedding day…

    But “I do” is present tense and “I will” is future tense. I think this recognizes the reality that those vows are not about today – but about the future – the many years together…

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    James Gawron (View Comment):

    She,

    I was thinking of something deeper though only at a subliminal level. Saying ‘I do’ sounds more like you are signing a contract. Unfortunately, as we know contracts can be broken. Saying ‘I will’ sounds more like a pure moral commitment. What you are pledging is the same but what binds you to the pledge is different.

    Regards,

    Jim

    When I said “I do,” which I did as best as I can remember, though I can’t say those memories are reliable, I meant “I do now, take you, to be my lawful wedded wife . . . for all time.”   To me “I will” as an answer to the base question “Wilt thou . . .?” carries an implication of “I will . . . someday.”  But maybe that’s my cynicism.  (Though well-earned I would argue after raising three children – “Take out the garbage, please.”  “Okay, I will.”

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  10. Skyler Coolidge
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    “I do” or “I will.”  I think I answered, “Yes.”

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  11. JoelB Member
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    Chaucer’s poem, Parlement of Foules.

    I had to laugh at myself this morning as I realized this must be where C.S. Lewis came up with the “Parliament of Owls” in The Silver Chair. I am not well-read enough in classical literature to have recognized the pun until now. I wonder how many more I have missed.

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  12. George Townsend Inactive
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    I’m a bit late to this Post, She. But it is quite Lovely and Thoughtful. Thanks.

    Thanks for the song also.

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  13. Stad Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    Expensive weddings are for the rich and suckers.

    I have been to three expensive weddings, and I shudder to think of how much each family spent (but I have a good idea).

    As the father of three daughters, I’m going to follow the lead a friend of mine at work took with his daughter.  He wrote out a check to her and said, “This is how much your mother and I can afford for your wedding.  If you want a bigger wedding, you’ll have to pay for it yourself.  If you don’t spend it all on the wedding, you can keep the balance.”

    His daughter opted for a much smaller wedding, and she pocketed the cash.

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