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Just in, from Bloomberg News:

President Donald Trump reached an agreement Wednesday with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker aimed at averting a transatlantic trade war, easing tensions stoked by Trump’s threat to impose tariffs on car imports.

The two sides agreed to expand European imports of U.S. liquified natural gas and soybeans and lower industrial tariffs on both sides, Trump said. The U.S. and European Union will “hold off on other tariffs” while negotiations proceed, Juncker said.

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  1. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Max,

    I wonder which side Theresa May is rooting for. She is an idiot. An idiot sitting in Margaret Thatcher’s chair. The chair doesn’t make the woman, the woman makes the chair. Too bad for Britain. May is in a mad rush to sell Britain out to Brussels. She’s Chamberlain, not Churchill. Too bad for Britain. That hideous creature Ollie Robbins crawling along beside her. This fool believed in Bolshevik propaganda after the fall of the Soviet Union. Truly an amazing idiot. Britain has a trade deal waiting for her with the US and others as long as there is a clean Brexit. May will screw that up. Too bad for Britain.

    Can you imagine this man trying to understand the idiocy in today’s Britain?

    Regards,

    Jim

    • #1
    • July 25, 2018, at 2:31 PM PDT
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  2. rico Inactive

    Finally! Thoughtful European diplomacy has killed Trump’s trade war!

    • #2
    • July 25, 2018, at 2:53 PM PDT
    • 6 likes
  3. blood thirsty neocon Inactive

    Max, do you represent Ricochet staff in posting this? Are the editors aware of this and happy about it? Could you talk to the editors about an editors’ desk post? I’d love for everyone to be able to celebrate this together, rather than it being just a Trump supporter party.

    • #3
    • July 25, 2018, at 3:14 PM PDT
    • 3 likes
  4. HeavyWater Coolidge

    This sounds pretty good to me. I bet it sounds even better to soybean farmers in Iowa.

    • #4
    • July 25, 2018, at 3:24 PM PDT
    • 4 likes
  5. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Great news! Can’t wait to read the details.

    • #5
    • July 25, 2018, at 4:11 PM PDT
    • 7 likes
  6. Steven Seward Member

    Good for the European Union. I didn’t think they had it in them.

    • #6
    • July 25, 2018, at 4:23 PM PDT
    • 2 likes
  7. Clifford A. Brown Contributor

    From John Hinderaker at Power Line:

    I have argued repeatedly that talk of a trade war is vastly overblown. It seems obvious that President Trump has properly staked out positions in defense of American interests with several trading partners, including the European Union, Mexico and China. His purpose is not to ignite a trade war, if such can be avoided, but rather to negotiate fairer and more favorable terms.

    That view was vindicated today, as to the EU, by a joint White House appearance between President Trump and European Union Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker in which they announced an agreement that will obviate threatened tariff impositions on both sides:

    • #7
    • July 25, 2018, at 4:37 PM PDT
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  8. toggle Inactive

    Max Ledoux:

    expand European imports of U.S. […] soybeans 

    No worries, they’ll snip that one in the bud once they issue the specs.

    “So, the standards do indeed say that excessively bendy bananas may not be sold for human consumption, but can be for industrial processing.”

    To Properly Explain The EU’s Bendy Bananas Rules: Yes, They’re Real

    • #8
    • July 25, 2018, at 4:40 PM PDT
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  9. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Good for the European Union. I didn’t think they had it in them.

    Steve,

    They don’t have it in them. Trump gave them hell and they caved. Theresa May should have already been doing the same thing and harmonizing with Trump because the US would be Britain’s immediate new trading partner after a clean Brexit. Instead she knee-jerk attacks Trump and caved into all of the EU phony demands without putting up a fight. Some Iron Lady. She’s a Fudge Girl.

    Regards,

    Jim

    • #9
    • July 25, 2018, at 5:17 PM PDT
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  10. Steven Seward Member

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Good for the European Union. I didn’t think they had it in them.

    Steve,

    They don’t have it in them. Trump gave them hell and they caved. Theresa May should have already been doing the same thing and harmonizing with Trump because the US would be Britain’s immediate new trading partner after a clean Brexit. Instead she knee-jerk attacks Trump and caved into all of the EU phony demands without putting up a fight. Some Iron Lady. She’s a Fudge Girl.

    Regards,

    Jim

    Well, either way I’m happy when any country decides to open up trade with us. I hope this is not just a token free trade deal to humor Trump.

    • #10
    • July 25, 2018, at 5:27 PM PDT
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  11. A-Squared Coolidge

    As someone who didn’t belive that Trump was a proponent of free trade, this looks very good. I hope I was wrong about Trump’s belief in protectionism and opposition to free trade. 

    • #11
    • July 25, 2018, at 6:12 PM PDT
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  12. Max Ledoux Admin
    Max Ledoux

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Max, do you represent Ricochet staff in posting this? Are the editors aware of this and happy about it? Could you talk to the editors about an editors’ desk post? I’d love for everyone to be able to celebrate this together, rather than it being just a Trump supporter party.

    I actually just forgot to change the author from me to editor’s desk before publishing and then just shrugged and left it. Please don’t read too much into it.

    • #12
    • July 25, 2018, at 6:22 PM PDT
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  13. Jules PA Member

    Aint’a that good news!

    • #13
    • July 25, 2018, at 8:36 PM PDT
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  14. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge

    The whole EU dust-up feels like a nothing to me. Lots of talk not much will really change. Seems like politics 101. I’d love free/fair trade, but the EU will regulate to death anything they want to keep out. The real battle is with China over intellectual property. China has a weak position as they are dependent on exporting to US and their belt-and-road mega-plan is being exposed as a Ponzi scheme. The China “negotiations” will continue until North Korea is sorted out and then a trade resolution will quickly emerge with smiles all around. I say 16 months for that one. Iran is still on deck.

    • #14
    • July 25, 2018, at 8:46 PM PDT
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  15. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    The devil, of course, is in the details:

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/donald-trump-made-a-trade-deal-with-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-european-union-heres-what-it-actually-means?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    • #15
    • July 26, 2018, at 6:30 AM PDT
    • 1 like
  16. Front Seat Cat Member

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    Max,

    I wonder which side Theresa May is rooting for. She is an idiot. An idiot sitting in Margaret Thatcher’s chair. The chair doesn’t make the woman, the woman makes the chair. Too bad for Britain. May is in a mad rush to sell Britain out to Brussels. She’s Chamberlain, not Churchill. Too bad for Britain. That hideous creature Ollie Robbins crawling along beside her. This fool believed in Bolshevik propaganda after the fall of the Soviet Union. Truly an amazing idiot. Britain has a trade deal waiting for her with the US and others as long as there is a clean Brexit. May will screw that up. Too bad for Britain.

    Can you imagine this man trying to understand the idiocy in today’s Britain?

    Regards,

    Jim

    But how do you really feel about Theresa May?

    • #16
    • July 26, 2018, at 7:09 AM PDT
    • 1 like
  17. Front Seat Cat Member

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Max, do you represent Ricochet staff in posting this? Are the editors aware of this and happy about it? Could you talk to the editors about an editors’ desk post? I’d love for everyone to be able to celebrate this together, rather than it being just a Trump supporter party.

    I actually just forgot to change the author from me to editor’s desk before publishing and then just shrugged and left it. Please don’t read too much into it.

    I heard some of the speech on the radio in my car – it was fascinating and very positive – 

    • #17
    • July 26, 2018, at 7:10 AM PDT
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  18. A-Squared Coolidge

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    The devil, of course, is in the details:

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/donald-trump-made-a-trade-deal-with-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-european-union-heres-what-it-actually-means?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    The devil is always in the details. This still marks a massive change in Trump’s rhetoric away from authoritarian central planning towards free markets and free trade. We should celebrate the change in rhetoric.

    • #18
    • July 26, 2018, at 8:12 AM PDT
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  19. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    The devil, of course, is in the details:

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/donald-trump-made-a-trade-deal-with-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-european-union-heres-what-it-actually-means?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    The devil is always in the details. This still marks a massive change in Trump’s rhetoric away from authoritarian central planning towards free markets and free trade. We should celebrate the change in rhetoric.

    Sure, but let’s not chalk up a return to status quo ante as a massive win. I await further details before the celebration. 

    • #19
    • July 26, 2018, at 8:27 AM PDT
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  20. A-Squared Coolidge

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

     

    Sure, but let’s not chalk up a return to status quo ante as a massive win. I await further details before the celebration.

    The status quo ante is better than a trade war with our allies, which was Trump’s stated desire not that long ago. 

    • #20
    • July 26, 2018, at 8:30 AM PDT
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  21. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

     

    Sure, but let’s not chalk up a return to status quo ante as a massive win. I await further details before the celebration.

    The status quo ante is better than a trade war with our allies, which was Trump’s stated desire not that long ago.

    Sure, any time Trump decides not to be awful its a good thing, its just not something to be celebrated. I don’t throw a party when my dog doesn’t pee in the house – that’s just what she’s supposed to do. 

    • #21
    • July 26, 2018, at 8:31 AM PDT
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  22. A-Squared Coolidge

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Sure, any time Trump decides not to be awful its a good thing, its just not something to be celebrated. I don’t throw a party when my dog doesn’t pee in the house – that’s just what she’s supposed to do.

    My dog went through a phase where he frequently pooped in basement laundry room. We praised him when he stopped doing it.

    • #22
    • July 26, 2018, at 8:35 AM PDT
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  23. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
    Misthiocracy got drunk andJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Good for the European Union. I didn’t think they had it in them.

    I think thee EU is more worried about cheap agricultural products from Africa than they are about cheap agricultural products from the USA.

    • #23
    • July 26, 2018, at 11:46 AM PDT
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  24. Saint Augustine Member

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    As someone who didn’t belive that Trump was a proponent of free trade, this looks very good. I hope I was wrong about Trump’s belief in protectionism and opposition to free trade.

    Yeah, this is a big sign that we Trump skeptics were wrong. Thank Heaven!

    • #24
    • July 26, 2018, at 3:35 PM PDT
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  25. Saint Augustine Member

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Sure, any time Trump decides not to be awful its a good thing, its just not something to be celebrated. I don’t throw a party when my dog doesn’t pee in the house – that’s just what she’s supposed to do.

    My dog went through a phase where he frequently pooped in basement laundry room. We praised him when he stopped doing it.

    This is the elevated discourse I come to Ricochet for.

    • #25
    • July 26, 2018, at 3:35 PM PDT
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  26. Saint Augustine Member

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    The devil, of course, is in the details:

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/donald-trump-made-a-trade-deal-with-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-european-union-heres-what-it-actually-means?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    The devil is always in the details. This still marks a massive change in Trump’s rhetoric away from authoritarian central planning towards free markets and free trade. We should celebrate the change in rhetoric.

    Sure, but let’s not chalk up a return to status quo ante as a massive win. I await further details before the celebration.

    Wait. This is better than a return to the status quo before, isn’t it? At least if the details are worked out in line with the stated goals.

    • #26
    • July 26, 2018, at 3:36 PM PDT
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  27. Richard Fulmer Member

    It’s beginning to appear that there’s less to the EU deal than the White House is claiming. The two sides have agreed to further talks, and, in the meantime, tariffs will be left as they are.

    Trump has kept the threat to raise tariffs on automobiles. The EU has agreed to purchase more natural gas (which they probably would have done anyway) and to lower tariffs on soybeans. Woo hoo.

    On the other hand, the fact that the two sides have stopped escalating is good news. If Trump is willing to claim victory and call off the war, I’m not going to complain.

    • #27
    • July 26, 2018, at 3:41 PM PDT
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  28. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    The devil, of course, is in the details:

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/donald-trump-made-a-trade-deal-with-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-european-union-heres-what-it-actually-means?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    The devil is always in the details. This still marks a massive change in Trump’s rhetoric away from authoritarian central planning towards free markets and free trade. We should celebrate the change in rhetoric.

    Sure, but let’s not chalk up a return to status quo ante as a massive win. I await further details before the celebration.

    Wait. This is better than a return to the status quo before, isn’t it? At least if the details are worked out in line with the stated goals.

    Not really, the status quo ante, as in the policy of the Clinton/Bush/Obama administrations was to work towards the exact same goals and the TTIP had significant progress prior to the 2016 election season when progress stopped and then was tabled after President Trump took office. 

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    • July 26, 2018, at 3:44 PM PDT
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  29. rico Inactive

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    The devil, of course, is in the details:

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/donald-trump-made-a-trade-deal-with-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-european-union-heres-what-it-actually-means?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    The devil is always in the details. This still marks a massive change in Trump’s rhetoric away from authoritarian central planning towards free markets and free trade. We should celebrate the change in rhetoric.

    Sure, but let’s not chalk up a return to status quo ante as a massive win. I await further details before the celebration.

    Wait. This is better than a return to the status quo before, isn’t it? At least if the details are worked out in line with the stated goals.

    Not really, the status quo ante, as in the policy of the Clinton/Bush/Obama administrations was to work towards the exact same goals and the TTIP had significant progress prior to the 2016 election season when progress stopped and then was tabled after President Trump took office.

    Wait a minute. How do we know that talks stalled after the change of presidents?

    • #29
    • July 26, 2018, at 3:48 PM PDT
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  30. Saint Augustine Member

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    The devil, of course, is in the details:

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/haley-byrd/donald-trump-made-a-trade-deal-with-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-european-union-heres-what-it-actually-means?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    The devil is always in the details. This still marks a massive change in Trump’s rhetoric away from authoritarian central planning towards free markets and free trade. We should celebrate the change in rhetoric.

    Sure, but let’s not chalk up a return to status quo ante as a massive win. I await further details before the celebration.

    Wait. This is better than a return to the status quo before, isn’t it? At least if the details are worked out in line with the stated goals.

    Not really, the status quo ante, as in the policy of the Clinton/Bush/Obama administrations was to work towards the exact same goals and the TTIP had significant progress prior to the 2016 election season when progress stopped and then was tabled after President Trump took office.

    Ok, fair enough.

    • #30
    • July 26, 2018, at 3:50 PM PDT
    • 1 like

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