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  1. Randal H Member
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    It’s quite possible that everything Pruitt did (or allegedly did) would have been ignored in a Democrat administration. Still, it’s frustrating when everyone knows that the left will be digging for anything on anyone in a Republican administration (particularly this one) who touches left wing sacred cows like abortion, identity/race, or the environment. That Pruitt undoubtedly knew this and still did numerous things that left him open to charges of scandal means he should pay the price. Bad judgement is bad judgement, whether it’s doing something wrong or just giving the appearance in this environment.

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  2. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

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    Oh, the horror. What a complete swamp creature Pruitt is. How utterly revolting.

    You’re right. You definitely cherry picked the most mild of all the allegations. I mean, you cherry picked the one I wouldn’t have even bother to list.

    This is more fun than playing “What have the Romans ever done for us.”

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  3. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Columbo (View Comment):
    These guys play tougher than the Little Red Hen and they used resources in the DOJ/CIA/NSA/EPA to spy on Scott Pruitt

    Evidence for this please? 

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  4. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

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    The only thing unprecedented is the Left’s vicious and unrelenting attacks on a sitting Cabinet member and his family.

    Explain further, please.

    Well, Spin … may I call you Spin? … you see I start out with a premise. And my premise is this. No matter who the Republican is … they’re Genghis (jen jis if youre John F’ng Kerry) Kahn to the dems. I mean whether its Donald Trump, Scott Pruitt or even meek mild milquetoast Mitt (or George), they are the second coming of Hitler to the dems.

    Scott Pruitt drew their ire first. Just because of his perspective and viewpoint on the idiocy at the EPA was sympatico with the President’s. And he was on a mission to fundamentally transform the EPA. And so people like the Greenpeace, Sierra Club, EarthFirst!, NRDC, EDF, FOE and their eco-terrorist buddies got together on the Sea Shepherd and put out a “hit” on Scott Pruitt.

    These guys play tougher than the Little Red Hen and they used resources in the DOJ/CIA/NSA/EPA to spy on Scott Pruitt. They even had embedded spies in the EPA ratting on him. I mean who doesn’t love a conspiracy, right? It could have happened.

    So, Scott Pruitt got the Sarah Sanders treatment on steroids. And this was before he even was confirmed. Before any of the scandals. Yes, he gave them plenty of ammunition to get their scalp. But those who generally support the GOP should not be cheering too loudly.

    Even the Old tired gray lady joined in the pile-up. In their zeal, they drug Scott Pruitt’s daughter into their mud pit gutter. So egregious was their slander even they felt the need to write a retraction. Imagine your college-age daughter being ostracized at school because of what her Dad did for a living. Overwhelmed by the non-stop social justice outrage of her peers, she begged her Dad to resign. Not too far fetched for me to believe.

    There’s blood in the water now. Mad Maxine has shrieked out her rebel war yell. It is open season on every member of our President’s cabinet. This is not a good thing for our Republic. No matter how much one hates Donald J. Trump.

    Oh … just one more thing …

    Hey, Maxie, why don’t you go after AG Sessions next. He’s not doing anything right now and we can get a better replacement, methinks.

    If nothing more than to put Rod Weasel Rosenstein in his place and smack that sh*t-eating smirk off his face.

    Not a single thing here counters any of the allegations of corruption leveled at Pruitt. 

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  5. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    Add to that list that he kept a secret calendar to hide meetings from public scrutiny.

    Is that something like keeping a private e-mail server?

    So it turns out what Hillary did has no bearing on the corruption of Scott Pruitt. 

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  6. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Oh good, Amgreatness.com. I’m sure we can turn to them for absolutely unbiased coverage of the Trump administration.

    More innuendo and laziness. You whine about links and then casually discard those presented.

    Refute the facts … 526 articles written by the NYT negatively mentioning Scott Pruitt. From the day after Trump was elected.

    This was before any of the “scandals” attributed to Scott Pruitt. You are awful quick to define someone as swamp and corrupt. At least when there is any connection to the 45th President of the United States. No?

    What facts? Did or did not Scott Pruitt act in the ways he’s being accused of. Did he or did he not get a sweetheart deal on an apartment from an energy lobbyist? Did he or did he not use the resources of his office to secure his wife a lucrative Chick-Fil-A franchise? Did he or did he not waste taxpayer funds on first class plane trips. Did he or did he not use sirens to avoid DC traffic? You have not refuted one of these. Not one. Just insinuated that people are out to get him. So. What. If he wasn’t a corrupt doofus it wouldn’t matter.

    It turns out that Trumps biggest fans don’t actually care about the swamp. They just want to change the mosquitos. 

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  7. Judge Mental Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    It turns out that Trumps biggest fans don’t actually care about the swamp. They just want to change the mosquitos. 

    Which has a greater net effect on swamp reduction?  Removal of one ‘corrupt’ executive, or reform of the entire EPA?

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  8. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Oh good, Amgreatness.com. I’m sure we can turn to them for absolutely unbiased coverage of the Trump administration.

    More innuendo and laziness. You whine about links and then casually discard those presented.

    Refute the facts … 526 articles written by the NYT negatively mentioning Scott Pruitt. From the day after Trump was elected.

    This was before any of the “scandals” attributed to Scott Pruitt. You are awful quick to define someone as swamp and corrupt. At least when there is any connection to the 45th President of the United States. No?

    What facts? Did or did not Scott Pruitt act in the ways he’s being accused of. Did he or did he not get a sweetheart deal on an apartment from an energy lobbyist? Did he or did he not use the resources of his office to secure his wife a lucrative Chick-Fil-A franchise? Did he or did he not waste taxpayer funds on first class plane trips. Did he or did he not use sirens to avoid DC traffic? You have not refuted one of these. Not one. Just insinuated that people are out to get him. So. What. If he wasn’t a corrupt doofus it wouldn’t matter.

    It turns out that Trumps biggest fans don’t actually care about the swamp. They just want to change the mosquitos.

    If you had the slightest idea of what actual corruption in Washington, DC comprises, you would be ashamed to advance this silly list of picayune accusations and expect people to take it seriously.

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  9. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Oh good, Amgreatness.com. I’m sure we can turn to them for absolutely unbiased coverage of the Trump administration.

    More innuendo and laziness. You whine about links and then casually discard those presented.

    Refute the facts … 526 articles written by the NYT negatively mentioning Scott Pruitt. From the day after Trump was elected.

    This was before any of the “scandals” attributed to Scott Pruitt. You are awful quick to define someone as swamp and corrupt. At least when there is any connection to the 45th President of the United States. No?

    What facts? Did or did not Scott Pruitt act in the ways he’s being accused of. Did he or did he not get a sweetheart deal on an apartment from an energy lobbyist? Did he or did he not use the resources of his office to secure his wife a lucrative Chick-Fil-A franchise? Did he or did he not waste taxpayer funds on first class plane trips. Did he or did he not use sirens to avoid DC traffic? You have not refuted one of these. Not one. Just insinuated that people are out to get him. So. What. If he wasn’t a corrupt doofus it wouldn’t matter.

    It turns out that Trumps biggest fans don’t actually care about the swamp. They just want to change the mosquitos.

    If you had the slightest idea of what actual corruption in Washington, DC comprises, you would be ashamed to advance this silly list of picayune accusations and expect people to take it seriously.

    It’s quite possible to be bothered by all kinds of government corruption. If you had the slightest idea what ethics look like you would be ashamed to advance such silly whataboutisms. 

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  10. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Has his replacement resigned yet?   Or will he need to be confronted and harassed a bit before they do.  We must kill all these Republican swamp creatures as soon as possible.  Of course we can leave the Democrat ones alone.  Just the way of the world.  

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  11. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    It’s quite possible to be bothered by all kinds of government corruption.

    But when you concentrate on the picayune you ignore the serious corruption and allow it to flourish. Pruitt’s departure is a big win for the serious corrupttion of the EPA.

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  12. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    It’s quite possible to be bothered by all kinds of government corruption.

    But when you concentrate on the picayune you ignore the serious corruption and allow it to flourish. Pruitt’s departure is a big win for the serious corrupttion of the EPA.

    Who says I ignore the serious corruption? 

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  13. The Reticulator Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    The fact that you ignored the point I made even while quoting it shows some of the defects of your case against Pruitt.

    That’s because I read it four times (now six) and I still can’t untangle it.

    I question that. If you couldn’t untangle it, you wouldn’t have quoted it and made a deliberate effort to ignore it.  

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  14. Valiuth Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):
    These guys play tougher than the Little Red Hen and they used resources in the DOJ/CIA/NSA/EPA to spy on Scott Pruitt

    Evidence for this please?

    Why else would he procure a Cone of Silence ala Max Smart. 

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  15. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
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    So do Jamie Lockett and Fred Cole have an extensive list of other Trump appointees who need to retire and can easily be replaced and confirmed by a U.S. Senate with 51 Republicans including an absent John McCain, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, a few other rebellious Republican senators, and a completely hostile Democrat Party?

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  16. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):
    These guys play tougher than the Little Red Hen and they used resources in the DOJ/CIA/NSA/EPA to spy on Scott Pruitt

    Evidence for this please?

    Why else would he procure a Cone of Silence ala Max Smart.

    Because he’s paranoid? 

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  17. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    So do Jamie Lockett and Fred Cole have an extensive list of other Trump appointees who need to retire and can easily be replaced and confirmed by a U.S. Senate with 51 Republicans including an absent John McCain, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, a few other rebellious Republican senators, and a completely hostile Democrat Party?

    No, why should I? Notice how there are many Trump Administration officials who don’t seem to be being forced to resign? Mattis, DeVos, Perry, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Perdue, Acosta, Azar, Chao, Nielsen, Haley, Mulvaney, McMahon, Coats – none of whom have allegations of corruption hounding them. 

    Carson has made some boneheaded purchases at HUD, wasting taxpayer dollars, but it hardly amounts to the scope of corruption of Pruitt – I think we can do better there but its not something we should care about. 

    Wilbur Ross has some truly troubling allegations of profiting off government power and knowledge that should be investigated and if true then he should resign.

    I’m not a fan of the Steel Industry Triumvirate of Ross, Lighthizer and Navarro and think conservatives could have better people in those positions, but the President gets the advisors he wants and other than Ross there’s no real stink of corruption around them.

    So the problem doesn’t seem as vast as you imply nor am I as unreasonable as you insinuate. Continue tilting at those windmills though. 

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  18. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):
    These guys play tougher than the Little Red Hen and they used resources in the DOJ/CIA/NSA/EPA to spy on Scott Pruitt

    Evidence for this please?

    Why else would he procure a Cone of Silence ala Max Smart.

    Because he’s paranoid?

    Because people really are out to get him?

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  19. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    So do Jamie Lockett and Fred Cole have an extensive list of other Trump appointees who need to retire and can easily be replaced and confirmed by a U.S. Senate with 51 Republicans including an absent John McCain, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, a few other rebellious Republican senators, and a completely hostile Democrat Party?

    Also, the biggest threat to the positions of cabinet-level officials in the Trump administration appears to Donald Trump – so don’t get your dander up about little ole me, take it up with him.

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  20. Fred Cole Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Notice how there are many Trump Administration officials who don’t seem to be being forced to resign? Mattis, DeVos, Perry, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Perdue, Acosta, Azar, Chao, Nielsen, Haley, Mulvaney, McMahon, Coats – none of whom have allegations of corruption hounding them. 

    Zinke shouldn’t be on that list.  Depending on how things shake out, he may be the next to go.

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  21. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Notice how there are many Trump Administration officials who don’t seem to be being forced to resign? Mattis, DeVos, Perry, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Perdue, Acosta, Azar, Chao, Nielsen, Haley, Mulvaney, McMahon, Coats – none of whom have allegations of corruption hounding them.

    Zinke shouldn’t be on that list. Depending on how things shake out, he may be the next to go.

    True. Didn’t he spend like $150,000 on new doors for his office? 

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  22. Fred Cole Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Notice how there are many Trump Administration officials who don’t seem to be being forced to resign? Mattis, DeVos, Perry, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Perdue, Acosta, Azar, Chao, Nielsen, Haley, Mulvaney, McMahon, Coats – none of whom have allegations of corruption hounding them.

    Zinke shouldn’t be on that list. Depending on how things shake out, he may be the next to go.

    True. Didn’t he spend like $150,000 on new doors for his office?

    There’s some other stuff too.

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  23. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    So the problem doesn’t seem as vast as you imply nor am I as unreasonable as you insinuate. Continue tilting at those windmills though. 

    One hit at a time/and that done well/is the very best way/to create a groundswell.

    Just wait.

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  24. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    @JamieLockett

    Noted Anti-Trump Activist Laura Ingraham: Pruitt is the swamp, drain it. 

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  25. Jamie Lockett Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    So the problem doesn’t seem as vast as you imply nor am I as unreasonable as you insinuate. Continue tilting at those windmills though.

    One hit at a time/and that done well/is the very best way/to create a groundswell.

    Just wait.

    Not a single counter to any allegation of corruption leveled against a senior cabinet official. Same swamp, different bugs, at least their “our” bugs. 

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  26. Stad Coolidge
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    I hereby declare this post and all threads in it officially dead:

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  27. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Notice how there are many Trump Administration officials who don’t seem to be being forced to resign? Mattis, DeVos, Perry, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Perdue, Acosta, Azar, Chao, Nielsen, Haley, Mulvaney, McMahon, Coats – none of whom have allegations of corruption hounding them.

    Zinke shouldn’t be on that list. Depending on how things shake out, he may be the next to go.

    True. Didn’t he spend like $150,000 on new doors for his office?

    I think DeVos, Mnuchin, Zinke, Carson, Ross, Sessions, and Nielsen have been accused of being corrupt, but I don’t know if any of them ever asked for an employee to purchase hand lotion, so I don’t know the important details.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/04/02/the-worst-member-of-trumps-cabinet-a-bracketology/

    Zinke is hated.

    DeVos is hated.

    Sessions is hated.

    Mnuchin is hated.

    Perry is hated.

    Chao is hated and was recently in a shouting match.

    Nielsen is hated.  Didn’t the mob confront her too.

    McMahon is hated.

    The mob mostly goes after women, so perhaps Haley has suffered similar experiences.  It’s the educated classes and probably urbanites who dislike Israel the most.

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  28. Jamie Lockett Inactive
    Jamie Lockett
    @JamieLockett

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Notice how there are many Trump Administration officials who don’t seem to be being forced to resign? Mattis, DeVos, Perry, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Perdue, Acosta, Azar, Chao, Nielsen, Haley, Mulvaney, McMahon, Coats – none of whom have allegations of corruption hounding them.

    Zinke shouldn’t be on that list. Depending on how things shake out, he may be the next to go.

    True. Didn’t he spend like $150,000 on new doors for his office?

    I think DeVos, Mnuchin, Zinke, Carson, Ross, Sessions, and Nielsen have been accused of being corrupt, but I don’t know if any of them ever asked for an employee to purchase hand lotion, so I don’t know the important details.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/04/02/the-worst-member-of-trumps-cabinet-a-bracketology/

    Zinke is hated.

    DeVos is hated.

    Sessions is hated.

    Mnuchin is hated.

    Perry is hated.

    Chao is hated and was recently in a shouting match.

    Nielsen is hated. Didn’t the mob confront her too.

    McMahon is hated.

    The mob mostly goes after women, so perhaps Haley has suffered similar experiences. It’s the educated classes and probably urbanites who dislike Israel the most.

    Still waiting…

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  29. Columbo Member
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    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Notice how there are many Trump Administration officials who don’t seem to be being forced to resign? Mattis, DeVos, Perry, Pompeo, Mnuchin, Sessions, Zinke, Perdue, Acosta, Azar, Chao, Nielsen, Haley, Mulvaney, McMahon, Coats – none of whom have allegations of corruption hounding them.

    Zinke shouldn’t be on that list. Depending on how things shake out, he may be the next to go.

    True. Didn’t he spend like $150,000 on new doors for his office?

    I think DeVos, Mnuchin, Zinke, Carson, Ross, Sessions, and Nielsen have been accused of being corrupt, but I don’t know if any of them ever asked for an employee to purchase hand lotion, so I don’t know the important details.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/04/02/the-worst-member-of-trumps-cabinet-a-bracketology/

    Zinke is hated.

    DeVos is hated.

    Sessions is hated.

    Mnuchin is hated.

    Perry is hated.

    Chao is hated and was recently in a shouting match.

    Nielsen is hated. Didn’t the mob confront her too.

    McMahon is hated.

    The mob mostly goes after women, so perhaps Haley has suffered similar experiences. It’s the educated classes and probably urbanites who dislike Israel the most.

    There’s a very clear pattern to the mob here. I am convinced that in every one of these departments there are completely biased careerist bureaucrats who are intentionally undermining the new Secretary’s of their own Departments. They are leaking to the press and giving stories to make the leaders look bad. Just like the treachery we have seen already uncovered within the DOJ and FBI. These people hate the President and anyone who functions in his governing hierarchy. 

    They are focused on expenses for furniture and travel. Even if budgeted and “historically standard”. It seems that they are even “doing the ordering” and then having a press story come out which blames it on the boss. For example, Interior Secretary Zinke and “his” doors …

    Interior Dept spending nearly $139000 on doors …

    A spokeswoman for Zinke told the Associated Press that the cost of the doors was news to her, and the work was requested by career staffers as part of a building modernization effort. While she said the price sounded high, she said historic preservation requirements and new locks raised the cost, the AP reported.

    While the records said the work was completed in November, Zinke’s spokeswoman told the AP that the doors will not be installed until this summer. One official told the AP that the project had been planned for nearly two years.

    Something is very rotten in the state of D.C. I smell rats. Lots of them.

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  30. Columbo Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Oh good, Amgreatness.com. I’m sure we can turn to them for absolutely unbiased coverage of the Trump administration.

    More innuendo and laziness. You whine about links and then casually discard those presented.

    Refute the facts … 526 articles written by the NYT negatively mentioning Scott Pruitt. From the day after Trump was elected.

    This was before any of the “scandals” attributed to Scott Pruitt. You are awful quick to define someone as swamp and corrupt. At least when there is any connection to the 45th President of the United States. No?

    What facts? Did or did not Scott Pruitt act in the ways he’s being accused of. Did he or did he not get a sweetheart deal on an apartment from an energy lobbyist? Did he or did he not use the resources of his office to secure his wife a lucrative Chick-Fil-A franchise? Did he or did he not waste taxpayer funds on first class plane trips. Did he or did he not use sirens to avoid DC traffic? You have not refuted one of these. Not one. Just insinuated that people are out to get him. So. What. If he wasn’t a corrupt doofus it wouldn’t matter.

    It turns out that Trumps biggest fans don’t actually care about the swamp. They just want to change the mosquitos.

    It turns out that Trump’s biggest detractors don’t actually care that the children of Cabinet officials are being attacked by the DNC-run media. Sad.

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