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  1. AltarGirl Member
    AltarGirl
    @CM

    Nooooo!

    Why? I’m traveling, so can’t watch video now.

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  2. Columbo Member
    Columbo
    @Columbo

    The only thing unprecedented is the Left’s vicious and unrelenting attacks on a sitting Cabinet member and his family.

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  3. Jamie Lockett Inactive
    Jamie Lockett
    @JamieLockett

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way. 

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  4. Gumby Mark Thatcher
    Gumby Mark
    @GumbyMark

    About time. Now get someone in there with the same policy agenda and avoid the stupid personal stuff. 

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  5. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
    @Spin

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

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  6. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive
    The (apathetic) King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    This has some stuff that helps.

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  7. Jamie Lockett Inactive
    Jamie Lockett
    @JamieLockett

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips. 

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates. 

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.  

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  8. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
    @Spin

    Columbo (View Comment):

    The only thing unprecedented is the Left’s vicious and unrelenting attacks on a sitting Cabinet member and his family.

    Explain further, please.

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  9. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
    @Spin

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    This has some stuff that helps.

    Not much…there’re a lot of words to have two sentences…which require me to go googling for more info…

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  10. AltarGirl Member
    AltarGirl
    @CM

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates. 

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    These are the only two I have a real issue with that has no justification I would accept.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    These seem petty? The latter more than the former. I’m surprised by the push back on First Class flights. I’m impressed by government heads who travel by economy because that seems unusual. I’d think first class for a gov’t head would be normal behavior. The staffer bit is obviously not their job, but there are explanations for it that I would find understandable or entertaining.

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He took a security detail on personal trips. 

    Given the climate of politics, fully understandable.

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  11. Fred Cole Inactive
    Fred Cole
    @FredCole

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    Add to that list that he kept a secret calendar to hide meetings from public scrutiny. 

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  12. Basil Fawlty Member
    Basil Fawlty
    @BasilFawlty

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

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  13. Jamie Lockett Inactive
    Jamie Lockett
    @JamieLockett

    AltarGirl (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    These are the only two I have a real issue with that has no justification I would accept.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    These seem petty? The latter more than the former. I’m surprised by the push back on First Class flights. I’m impressed by government heads who travel by economy because that seems unusual. I’d think first class for a gov’t head would be normal behavior. The staffer bit is obviously not their job, but there are explanations for it that I would find understandable or entertaining.

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    Given the climate of politics, fully understandable.

    Anyone who uses government resources to enrich himself should be suspect and is contributing to the stench of the swamp. 

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  14. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
    @Spin

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    I guess so.  Sounds like typical DC crap to me.  

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  15. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive
    The (apathetic) King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    Spin (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    This has some stuff that helps.

    Not much…there’re a lot of words to have two sentences…which require me to go googling for more info…

    More about the character issue that was brought out by him achieving some level of power.

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  16. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive
    The (apathetic) King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    I guess so. Sounds like typical DC crap to me.

    That’s exactly the problem. Secondarily, any R has to be perfect, but Ds can get away with almost anything because we know they have no principles.

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  17. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    I like what’s he done at the EPA so far, but the stupidity of how he goes about his life made him unsuitable for office.  From what I’ve heard, his Deputy has the same beliefs and philosophy about how to bring the EPA to heel.  If true, bump him up . . .

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  18. Fred Cole Inactive
    Fred Cole
    @FredCole

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    I guess so. Sounds like typical DC crap to me.

    That’s exactly the problem. Secondarily, any R has to be perfect, but Ds can get away with almost anything because we know they have no principles.

    Please. If that happened under a Democratic administration, Republicans would have been all over it. 

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  19. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive
    The (apathetic) King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    I guess so. Sounds like typical DC crap to me.

    That’s exactly the problem. Secondarily, any R has to be perfect, but Ds can get away with almost anything because we know they have no principles.

    Please. If that happened under a Democratic administration, Republicans would have been all over it.

    And nothing would have come of it.

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  20. Henry Racette Member
    Henry Racette
    @HenryRacette

    I am disappointed. I liked what he was doing at EPA. He was my favorite of Trump’s picks. 

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  21. Fred Cole Inactive
    Fred Cole
    @FredCole

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    I guess so. Sounds like typical DC crap to me.

    That’s exactly the problem. Secondarily, any R has to be perfect, but Ds can get away with almost anything because we know they have no principles.

    Please. If that happened under a Democratic administration, Republicans would have been all over it.

    And nothing would have come of it.

    Also, in a different administration it wouldn’t have gone as far as it did with Pruitt. There was a colossal failure of management here. 

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  22. C. U. Douglas Thatcher
    C. U. Douglas
    @CUDouglas

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    He enlisted an EPA staffer to help his wife secure a Chick-fil-A franchise.

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    He regularly traveled first class on airlines at taxpayer expense.

    He took a security detail on personal trips.

    He rented a DC Condo from the wife an energy lobbyist for far below market rates.

    He gave raises to EPA staffers without going through standard processes.

    His policy proposals were great and his work to pare back regulations was also very good, but he was corrupt and we can do better. This is especially true of a President who vowed to drain the swamp.

    I guess so. Sounds like typical DC crap to me.

    That’s exactly the problem. Secondarily, any R has to be perfect, but Ds can get away with almost anything because we know they have no principles.

    Please. If that happened under a Democratic administration, Republicans would have been all over it.

    And nothing would have come of it.

    True. Still, as stated before, when one’s promised to “Drain the swamp” it’s perhaps best to avoid distinctly swampy behavior. I’m ambivalent about this. There’s been some good change at the EPA, but I hope we needn’t depend on a single person to do it flawed or no.

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  23. iWe Coolidge
    iWe
    @iWe

    Pruitt was hated by his people, and they set out to destroy him. They succeeded. All we hear is their side of things, many of which could have been engineered to embarrass him from the beginning.

    Why did the EPA hate him? Because he is not an earth-worshipping socialist like they are.

    This is a terrible loss for America. Pruitt is the single best EPA administrator the country has ever had.

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  24. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
    @Spin

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Good, he has proven to be corrupt in a cartoonish way.

    Please explain further.

    This has some stuff that helps.

    Not much…there’re a lot of words to have two sentences…which require me to go googling for more info…

    More about the character issue that was brought out by him achieving some level of power.

    Sure, but Jonah might as well say that water is wet.  

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  25. Fred Cole Inactive
    Fred Cole
    @FredCole

    iWe (View Comment):

    Pruitt was HATED by his people, and they set out to destroy him. They succeeded. 

    A correction: Pruitt destroyed himself.

     

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  26. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
    The Cloaked Gaijin
    @TheCloakedGaijin

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    Well, if I were surrounded by a staff of 99% Democrats who get paid to leak stuff to a hostile media, I might want some protection, sound-proof and otherwise.

    Is it unethical for Pruitt’s wife to have ANY job in Washington?

    “far below market rates”

    I was just listening to Rush Limbaugh recap the Ted Stevens case this week.  The accusation was “far below market rates” when the contractor was actually charging double.

    And it was the Bush administration Justice Department which ran Ted Stevens out of office — which gave us Obamacare.

    Republican-appointed EPA administrators who endorsed Hillary Clinton:

    1.  William K. Reilly
    2.  Christine Todd Whitman
    3.  William Ruckelshaus

    Scott Pruitt was actually a conservative EPA administrator.  That may never happen again.

    Read instead Kevin Williamson’s December 31 profile of Scott Pruitt:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2017/12/31/scott-pruitts-epa-reformation-re-shaping-agency/

    Neil Gorsuch’s mother was also EPA chief.  I think she was run out of town too.

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  27. Basil Fawlty Member
    Basil Fawlty
    @BasilFawlty

    iWe (View Comment):

    Pruitt was HATED by his people, and they set out to destroy him. They succeeded. All we hear is their side of things, many of which could have been engineered to embarrass him from the beginning.

    Why did the EPA hate him? Because he is not an earth-worshipping socialist like they are.

    This is a terrible loss for America. Pruitt is the single best EPA administrator the country has ever had.

    True. But a better bureaucrat/politician could have avoided the traps.

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  28. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive
    The (apathetic) King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    Pruitt was HATED by his people, and they set out to destroy him. They succeeded. All we hear is their side of things, many of which could have been engineered to embarrass him from the beginning.

    Why did the EPA hate him? Because he is not an earth-worshipping socialist like they are.

    This is a terrible loss for America. Pruitt is the single best EPA administrator the country has ever had.

    True. But a better bureaucrat/politician could have avoided the traps.

    Not being douchey goes a long way.

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  29. Spin Coolidge
    Spin
    @Spin

    I remain unconvinced that Pruitt was the scourge of our republic.  I now await Columbo’s further explanation.  

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  30. Jamie Lockett Inactive
    Jamie Lockett
    @JamieLockett

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    He spent $43,000 to create a soundproof booth in his office.

    Well, if I were surrounded by a staff of 99% Democrats who get paid to leak stuff to a hostile media, I might want some protection, sound-proof and otherwise.

    Is it unethical for Pruitt’s wife to have ANY job in Washington?

    “far below market rates”

    I was just listening to Rush Limbaugh recap the Ted Stevens case this week. The accusation was “far below market rates” when the contractor was actually charging double.

    And it was the Bush administration Justice Department which ran Ted Stevens out of office — which gave us Obamacare.

    Republican-appointed EPA administrators who endorsed Hillary Clinton:

    1. William K. Reilly
    2. Christine Todd Whitman
    3. William Ruckelshaus

    Scott Pruitt was actually a conservative EPA administrator. That may never happen again.

    Read instead Kevin Williamson’s December 31 profile of Scott Pruitt:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2017/12/31/scott-pruitts-epa-reformation-re-shaping-agency/

    Neil Gorsuch’s mother was also EPA chief. I think she was run out of town too.

    It can be simultaneously true that Scott Pruitt did some good things and that he was a corrupt swamp creature. 

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