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  1. RightAngles Member
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    Exactly.

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  2. James Gawron Inactive
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    Michael,

    You nailed it. Thanks.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  3. Hypatia Member
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    Yuh, see,  the Left, which wants to eliminate our border, doesn’t really like children.  They  don’t have any.  But, uh , if they had to choose, well, give ’em alien children over American children any day! 

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  4. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    No one said it better than Michael Ramirez!

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  5. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Sad Sad Sad

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  6. Gary Robbins Member
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    It is possible to be against illegal immigration, while doing it in a child friendly manner.  Trump’s draconian policy harmed the cause of stopping illegal immigration.

    Great cartoon.

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  7. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    It is possible to be against illegal immigration, while doing it in a child friendly manner. Trump’s draconian policy harmed the cause of stopping illegal immigration.

    Great cartoon.

    Wasn’t his policy from Obama? Isn’t he trying to change it now?

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  8. Arizona Patriot Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    It is possible to be against illegal immigration, while doing it in a child friendly manner. Trump’s draconian policy harmed the cause of stopping illegal immigration.

    Great cartoon.

    Gary, I really have no idea what you’re talking about.  I googled it briefly, and found some furor about kids kept in what appeared to be an indoor facility with internal chain-link fences, sleeping on pads on the floor, with something like metallic emergency blankets.

    It didn’t look horrid to me, though the metallic blankets were a bit weird.  I assume that they are used because cloth blankets would present health problems — as they can be infested with lice or other vermin, and would tend to hold other dirt and filth.  I assume that the metallic things are disposable, which would improve hygiene.  They seem similar to what I’ve seen in emergency kits used by my own family.

    What exactly do you object to? 

    The chain link fencing?  I mean, they need to be locked in for their protection, and to prevent escape efforts.

    The sleeping on the floor?  Heck, we did that every day back in kindergarten.

    My impression is that you are being unreasonably swayed by emotion, and seem to think that children here illegally ought to be put up at a Marriott in Scottsdale.  In fact, I think that part of the problem was an aesthetic objection to chain link fencing.  I mean, really, can’t they use some nice vertical wrought iron?  The CC&Rs of any decent neighborhood would prohibit anything as unsightly as chain link.

    By the way, it appears the recent furor about this was apparently based on the Arizona Republic’s release of photos taken in 2014, during the Obama administration.  

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  9. Gary Robbins Member
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    It is possible to be against illegal immigration, while doing it in a child friendly manner. Trump’s draconian policy harmed the cause of stopping illegal immigration.

    Great cartoon.

    Gary, I really have no idea what you’re talking about. I googled it briefly, and found some furor about kids kept in what appeared to be an indoor facility with internal chain-link fences, sleeping on pads on the floor, with something like metallic emergency blankets.

    It didn’t look horrid to me, though the metallic blankets were a bit weird. I assume that they are used because cloth blankets would present health problems — as they can be infested with lice or other vermin, and would tend to hold other dirt and filth. I assume that the metallic things are disposable, which would improve hygiene. They seem similar to what I’ve seen in emergency kits used by my own family.

    What exactly do you object to?

    The chain link fencing? I mean, they need to be locked in for their protection, and to prevent escape efforts.

    The sleeping on the floor? Heck, we did that every day back in kindergarten.

    My impression is that you are being unreasonably swayed by emotion, and seem to think that children here illegally ought to be put up at a Marriott in Scottsdale. In fact, I think that part of the problem was an aesthetic objection to chain link fencing. I mean, really, can’t they use some nice vertical wrought iron? The CC&Rs of any decent neighborhood would prohibit anything as unsightly as chain link.

    By the way, it appears the recent furor about this was apparently based on the Arizona Republic’s release of photos taken in 2014, during the Obama administration.

    My issue is that the children don’t know where their parents are and have no contact with their parents.  

    Worse, the government has “lost” children.  There are two lawsuits so far where parents were deported to Guatemala and the Congo, without the seven year olds being returned to them.

    The Trump used all of the foresight with this change as they did with the first two Muslim Bans, before they finally got it right.

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  10. Arizona Patriot Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My issue is that the children don’t know where their parents are and have no contact with their parents.

    Worse, the government has “lost” children. There are two lawsuits so far where parents were deported to Guatemala and the Congo, without the seven year olds being returned to them.

    The Trump used all of the foresight with this change as they did with the first two Muslim Bans, before they finally got it right.

    I’m confused about the objection on this issue.  The same situation occurs regularly when a parent, even a US citizen, is arrested and jailed.  For example, imagine a father pulled over and arrested for extreme DUI, with his young children in the back seat.  He’s going to be hauled off to jail, and his kids are going to have to be placed with the appropriate child services agency pending release to an appropriate family member (if there is one).

    In the illegal immigration context, there is probably no eligible family around, and even if there is, there is the issue of the child being here illegally also.  So you can’t just let them go.

    I agree that it’s a bad situation, but I place the blame on the parents who are bringing young children to this country illegally.  I don’t blame the cops or the administration.

    I would have an objection if there was truly inhumane treatment, but offending aesthetic sensibilities by using chain link fences for detention purposes does not bother me.

    If anything, I like the idea of publicity attaching to a policy of separating kids from their parents who are bringing them here illegally.  It will certainly create a disincentive for the parents.

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  11. Gary Robbins Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    It is possible to be against illegal immigration, while doing it in a child friendly manner. Trump’s draconian policy harmed the cause of stopping illegal immigration.

    Great cartoon.

    Gary, I really have no idea what you’re talking about. I googled it briefly, and found some furor about kids kept in what appeared to be an indoor facility with internal chain-link fences, sleeping on pads on the floor, with something like metallic emergency blankets.

    It didn’t look horrid to me, though the metallic blankets were a bit weird. I assume that they are used because cloth blankets would present health problems — as they can be infested with lice or other vermin, and would tend to hold other dirt and filth. I assume that the metallic things are disposable, which would improve hygiene. They seem similar to what I’ve seen in emergency kits used by my own family.

    What exactly do you object to?

    The chain link fencing? I mean, they need to be locked in for their protection, and to prevent escape efforts.

    The sleeping on the floor? Heck, we did that every day back in kindergarten.

    My impression is that you are being unreasonably swayed by emotion, and seem to think that children here illegally ought to be put up at a Marriott in Scottsdale. In fact, I think that part of the problem was an aesthetic objection to chain link fencing. I mean, really, can’t they use some nice vertical wrought iron? The CC&Rs of any decent neighborhood would prohibit anything as unsightly as chain link.

    By the way, it appears the recent furor about this was apparently based on the Arizona Republic’s release of photos taken in 2014, during the Obama administration.

    My issue is that the children don’t know where their parents are and have no contact with their parents.

    Worse, the government has “lost” children. There are two lawsuits so far where parents were deported to Guatemala and the Congo, without the seven year olds being returned to them.

    Good news.  Faced with a federal lawsuit, the federal government “found” the seven year old boy from Guatemala.  Hopefully, with the other lawsuit, the federal government will find the seven year old girl from the Congo.

    The Trump used all of the foresight with this change as they did with the first two Muslim Bans, before they finally got it right.

    I would like to see proof that other kids will be returned.  Ted Cruz’s bill would solve a lot of problems.

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  12. Hypatia Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    It is possible to be against illegal immigration, while doing it in a child friendly manner. Trump’s draconian policy harmed the cause of stopping illegal immigration.

    Great cartoon.

    Gary, I really have no idea what you’re talking about. I googled it briefly, and found some furor about kids kept in what appeared to be an indoor facility with internal chain-link fences, sleeping on pads on the floor, with something like metallic emergency blankets.

    It didn’t look horrid to me, though the metallic blankets were a bit weird. I assume that they are used because cloth blankets would present health problems — as they can be infested with lice or other vermin, and would tend to hold other dirt and filth. I assume that the metallic things are disposable, which would improve hygiene. They seem similar to what I’ve seen in emergency kits used by my own family.

    What exactly do you object to?

    The chain link fencing? I mean, they need to be locked in for their protection, and to prevent escape efforts.

    The sleeping on the floor? Heck, we did that every day back in kindergarten.

    My impression is that you are being unreasonably swayed by emotion, and seem to think that children here illegally ought to be put up at a Marriott in Scottsdale. In fact, I think that part of the problem was an aesthetic objection to chain link fencing. I mean, really, can’t they use some nice vertical wrought iron? The CC&Rs of any decent neighborhood would prohibit anything as unsightly as chain link.

    By the way, it appears the recent furor about this was apparently based on the Arizona Republic’s release of photos taken in 2014, during the Obama administration.

    My issue is that the children don’t know where their parents are and have no contact with their parents.

    so what?  Their parents are criminals.  Best thing that could happen to em.

     

    Worse, the government has “lost” children. There are two lawsuits so far where parents were deported to Guatemala and the Congo, without the seven year olds being returned to them.

    um, “the government has “lost” children?  Far more likely that they’re deliberately evading detection.  And again–whose fault is the separation? It’s the Guatemalan or Congolese lawbreaker parents fault. 

    The Trump used all of the foresight with this change as they did with the first two Muslim Bans, before they finally got it right.

    Trump was right the first time.  The administration shoulda taken it to the Supreme Court then. 

    Finally, yes, the chain link fencing…see, I don’t know if you’ve  heard this, but child molestation and child sexual slavery is kind of a big issue worldwide nad even in ur country, especially with alien children.  

    Does it not occur to anyone that the fence is there to keep predators out?  It’s like the high  chain .onk fences around our school,playgrounds.   Duh. 

     

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  13. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    Thank you for gracing Ricochet with your artwork, Mr.  Ramirez.  I have been enjoying them.

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