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I’m always a little suspicious when the bishops suddenly take up an issue when a Republican is doing it, but didn’t seem to notice when a Democrat did the same. Stop politicizing the faith, for Pete’s sake!
The bishops could actually be a help in this situation. They could tell the “migrants,” — “Hey, you know it’s not really right to exploit your kids to get a foothold in the US and subject them to all the dangers (sex trafficking) of an illegal crossing. How about if you stay home and we answer the call to care for the poor and the suffering…”
You got it all wrong Scott. What really happened is the Bishop found out all the border Patrol are Pro Life. You do know that the world is upside down don’t you?
I had completely missed Francis’ absence on the Irish referendum. While there may be “church-state” reasons for it, it still reeks.
Thanks for pointing that out.
I doubt that this will go anywhere. From an article written by a Canon Lawyer:
Click on the link for the entire article.
What’s actually going on with Catholic Bishops? Didn’t we used to look to the church to stand up to cultural fads. This isn’t even a fad, it’s a hyped up photo op for political leverage.
So I guess anything that affects someone’s life somehow is a “life issue” now?
This is embarrassing. That any bishop would dare to put virtue signaling above virtue is horrible. This bishop needs to be re-assigned to El Salvador. It is better that he should fix up that country rather than encourage its residents to become illegal immigrants. The bishops lost a lot of moral authority, when they failed to respond adequately to the sex abuse scandal. They will not get it back promoting open borders and socialism.
It is getting so it is an embarrassment to call oneself a Catholic. Let the Bishops bring on their excommunication. That door works two ways. Since the latest Pope it has become obvious that the Church Is not the organization I have been taught it was. Maybe the Left has the right of it and the Church is as corrupt as they say.
If I ran a mission board for a Protestant faith, I think I’d be visiting border agents right now.
In looking into this more, I have found that the Vatican has a site specifically dedicated to migrants and refugees.
This short video gives an overview of the Pope’s wish to welcome, protect, promote, and integrate refugees.
There is a 20-point action plan available that has many worthwhile suggestions.
And finally, I find this recent statement from the Holy Father quite ironic given what is going on at the border.
It’s amusing to see how these bishops and the left, especially the scripture-quoting media, can conveniently forget “separation of church and state” when it suits their purposes and become outraged over it when it does not match their script. How about “render unto Caesar” which is what the border agents are doing.
What do you want to bet we in the Catholic pews get homilies on the topic? And yet the bishops warned against speaking out against pro-abortion candidates lest the church’s tax status be called into question for straying into the political.
Again, the left has hijacked the meaning of words: migration and immigration are not the same as illegal entry.
Then this:
“The Catholic bishops met in Fort Lauderdale a few days ago. The dominating topic of discussion was politics, specifically, their official guide to Catholic voters, Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship.
The Pope Francis faction, led by Cardinal Blase J. Cupich of Chicago, called for a complete rewriting of the document since it no longer represented “the new body of teaching” as taught by the present pontiff, specifically mentioning climate change, poverty, and immigration.
Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego went a step further saying the present document doesn’t represent “Catholic teaching as it is now.”
These two are not the only ones who believe that in the space of five years, since Bergoglio’s 2013 election, the moral and social teaching of the Church has been so fundamentally altered Faithful Citizenship no longer speaks with the true voice of the Church. So much for an institution considered slow to change.”
A cradle Catholic, I may be searching for a new church home.
I’ve been reading Jesus of Nazareth — yes, rather slowly during my adoration time. PBXVI writes about the meaning of the Kingdom and he says this:
I am getting more and more concerned for the Catholic Church.
A few weeks ago at Mass, during prayers of the faithful, we were told to pray for “demonstrators for social change”. Hmmmm.
But on Sunday last, I was down close to my old Alma Mater, the University of Southern California and wanted to go to a 5:00 o’clock mass. There were only two churches in the area. Both are very beautiful.
The campus church is a newly constructed beautifully designed church in the Gothic style paid by for developer David Caruso probably to the tune of millions, that replaced the old mid-century church I used to go to when I was a student. However, this church that they spent so much money on, designated to serve the University that has over 10,000 students living in the area only had one mass- at 12:00 on Sunday. This is odd, because given the lives of students, even when I was a student, a 5:00 mass was the one most people went to, and to have only one at that time seems inexplicable and frankly a very half hearted attempt at serving that community.
But alas the other church in the area had a 5:00 mass. It is the very old, very beautiful and very large Saint Vincent de Paul church, done in a very elaborate Spanish Baroque style that was paid for by the Doheny’s of Teapot Dome infamy, and is directly adjacent to the Mount St. Mary’s Doheny campus just north of USC. So I walk in. Early. All the parishioners are spanish speaking, but there is no Priest or nun to be found. So I wait. After about 15 minutes, the small choir band of guitar players start playing what sounds like Mexican party songs with clapping and other non-religious trappings. More times goes by, and about 25 minutes late the Priest finally shows up. He then embarks on the most unusual mass I have ever heard, of course all in Spanish with not even a little Latin thrown in here or there. I have been to many spanish speaking masses in the past, but they all followed the standard Catholic mass format so they were easy to follow. This wasn’t even close. Not only was this mass unintelligible to me, it seemed disrespectful. So I left early.
Apparently our new Archbishop of Los Angeles, Jose Gomez, was born in Mexico, and prefers to serve the Latino community first and foremost. However, we still live in America, not a province of Mexico. The Church should respect and serve America and it’s people.
I say that because, theoretically my local parish should be the Church of the Blessed Sacrament, another very old and very large church on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, which has been sadly for many years dedicated to serving primarily the Latino community, even though there is no longer a latino community anywhere close to it.
Wow, what a sad and depressing story.
The Church does seem to have lost it’s way in many places around the world.
Perhaps instead of focusing on so-called social justice issues or catering to specific ethnic groups the wayward Church should focus on giving glory to God through right worship. I think the rest would then sort itself out. As I like to say, Save the Liturgy, Save the World.
You must do what you think is right. For me, the Catholic Church is the body of Christ and the place where I receive the sacraments. No amount of political foolishness from the bishops would make me even consider leaving.
My former denomination (Presbyterian Church (USA)) is currently holding its biennial (every 2 years) General Assembly. Many of the resolutions on the agenda are directed to current domestic political controversies, including the enforcement of immigration laws.
A problem with so much high level church focus on the political issue of the moment is that the church loses contact with its eternal objectives. And by declaring as mortal sins what many see as policy disagreements on debatable issues, the church is undermining its long term prospects for bringing people into an eternal relationship with our Creator.
[The PC(USA) is also not helping any interest they might have in bringing me back into the denomination by referring to current immigration laws as “racist.” I can only presume they don’t care if I ever come back. I am looking for another portion of the body of Christ with which to worship, but I fear that many who are driven away from the church by politics will give up participating in a church at all.]
I have a great deal of respect for the Catholic Church, but I cringe whenever I read about the leftist antics their nuns and clergy do and say. Is there not some point where even a stout believer such as @josephstanko will say “This is too much, I have to go elsewhere”?
Some Protestant denominations have lost many members because of liberal foolishness by its leaders, and I think the Catholic Church is on the verge of an exodus it doesn’t expect . . .
Joseph, it’s close to the last straw for me. It’s this latest foolishness on top of all the other baloney that is fryin’ my fritters. When the Mass and the sacraments become an afterthought, or worse, are wielded as a political weapon, when political correctness allows for subversion and pretzel logic of the Magisterium and the catechism, is it still Catholicism?
Well, Joseph said it well in comment #16. The Church has survived worse and is THE Church of Christ. As Peter said, to whom shall we go?
As you note, where liberal bishops and policies prevail, the Church is in decline and there is a great exodus – just look at Germany. Where the Church remains orthodox, the Church is on the rise. It isn’t rocket science, but as I said, the bishops don’t get it.
After thinking on this I am more annoyed. The Church is failing to help people in the source countries of these illegal immigrants. They should explain that people should use a legal asylum process. They should challenge the men to stay and fix their country. When governments fail, The Church needs to step up. I don’t see it.
I am not a Catholic, so I don’t want to throw stones, but I do agree with the statement a Protestant pastor friend used to say: “The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.”
This is important. The US is not a lifeboat for all the suffering people of the world. The Statue of Liberty is not showing every oppressed person the door to which they must pass through. Instead, Lady Liberty is showing the way to freedom – not by escaping to our country, but by what they have to do to change their own.
Our forefathers, and millions of citizens since, have shed their blood to keep our country safe, and to show the world what can happen if they adopt our principles. The Church (Catholic and Protestant) can go a long way to making this happen, as long as they abandon leftist positions and return to their roots.
Just as soon as there’s a church with apostolic succession going back to Peter and remaining faithful to the Deposit of Faith regarding faith and morals for 2,000 years, I’m switching. Until then, not so much. These heterodox bishops et al will just have to put up with me.
We are the Church — not Blase Cupich and company. I hope our orthodox bishops find the courage to push back.
The Church is like my big extended family, and leftist clergy are like that relative at Thanksgiving who drives you nuts when he won’t shut up about politics. Sure it gets annoying at times, but at the end of the day, what can you do about it? He’s part of the family.
Has that actually happened? I though this was just one bishop floating a bad idea, not an official policy adopted by the USCCB.
There was much talk of denying Holy Communion to Catholic politicians in the 2004 Presidential election (Bush-Kerry). That was part of the reason why Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the CDF, issued the document “Worthiness to Receive” (linked to in the OP). As I recall, Cardinal Ratzinger sent it to Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of DC, who sat on it and would not release it until he was pressured to release it to the bishops.
Extremists on the Left and Right do not seem to believe in boundaries or earthly government laws as they believe that true righteousness lies upon a path of choosing to tear down such restrictions.
They also may see money, fame, adulation, or an inward calling in choosing such a controversial path.
So true! You and Joseph and Scott are obviously stauncher in your faith than I. Y’all may have talked me off the ledge…for now.
Scott,
I thought you might appreciate this from the April issue of First Things: