Quote of the Day: Whittaker Chambers on Evil

 

“I did not know what had happened to me. I denied the very existence of a soul. But I said: ‘This is evil, absolute evil. Of this evil I am a part.'” — Whittaker Chambers

To paraphrase Jordan Peterson, it amazes me that modern intellectuals don’t believe in evil anymore. The 20th century made evil so bloody obvious. Dennis Prager also has a nice line about evil: “Those who don’t fight the greatest evils will fight lesser evils or make-believe evils.”

To take a rather visceral example, leftists have a hard time calling Muslim refugees who commit rape evil but they can call Jordan Peterson a sexist at the drop of a hat. Abuse of women is a great evil and Jordan Peterson’s sexism is a made-up evil.

Yet, I notice that they don’t call classical liberals/conservatives evil. They call them part of a rape culture or the patriarchy or whatever term of approbation is popular at the time; but they avoid the use of the word “evil” while calling them bigoted. This is significant because bigotry is the left’s equivalent of evil (and real bigotry actually is).

Think of all those videos of leftists crying after the election of President Trump. They became unhinged and started crying and shouting obscenities. I can’t recall them using the word evil. They were reduced to throwing a tantrum.

Much like Jordan Peterson, I found my answer in Nietzsche. Nietzsche said that the ubermensch must move beyond Christianity and good and evil in order to forge a new system of living. It gives me some ironic schadenfreude that Nietzsche’s thinking has been adopted by the heirs of a philosophy that he detested as much as Christianity.

After post-modernism did its best to destroy Western Civilization (it didn’t fully work but it was a solid try) it needed to make a new morality and give a new purpose to humanity. Sin was replaced with bigotry. “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to G-d the things that are G-d’s” was replaced with “render unto politics everything.”

It is no surprise that Whittaker Chambers, after realizing that he was part of an absolute evil, started to discuss G-d and credited his leaving of communism in part due to His intervention.

His story is a living refutation of Nietzsche’s rejection of good and evil.

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  1. They call me PJ Boy or they ca… Member
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    That is one amazing QOTD dude!

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  2. James Gawron Inactive
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    Henry,

    This an extremely important issue. All definitions of Good & Evil are not religious however at the end of the 19th century there most certainly was a nihilistic collapse on this issue. Nietzsche’s was just the most prominent outspoken declaration of the rejection of Good & Evil as the 19th became the 20th century. Many others were more subtle about it but just as effective in abandoning Good & Evil.

    Henry Castaigne: It is no surprise that Whittaker Chambers after realizing that he was part of an absolute evil, Chambers started to discuss G-d and credited his leaving of communism in part due to His intervention. 

    In a sense, I had a similar experience. I still had no religious point of view up until the Cambodian genocide happened. I could not explain the event in any terms other than pure evil. This eventually led to my own religious awakening.

    I also have a philosophical point of view that upholds Good & Evil. This was what Nietzsche & company abandoned over 100 years ago. I think this particular event in philosophical history was a turning point and immensely responsible for many of the ills that have befallen us since.

    Thanks for the post.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  3. Mark Camp Member
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    Thanks for bringing up a quote of Chambers.  I don’t think a day has gone by since I finished “Witness” that one of his quotes or ideas has not come to mind. I hope even one other Ricochettian will be inspired by your Quote of the Day to read this book.  It has affected me to a degree perhaps equaled by the biography of Bonhoefer, “Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy”.

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  4. Vectorman Inactive
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    This conversation is an entry in our Quote of the Day Series. We have many openings in the June 2018 Sign-Up Sheet and Schedule, along with tips for finding great quotes.

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  5. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Thanks for bringing up a quote of Chambers. I don’t think a day has gone by since I finished “Witness” that one of his quotes or ideas has not come to mind. I hope even one other Ricochettian will be inspired by your Quote of the Day to read this book. It has affected me to a degree perhaps equaled by the biography of Bonhoefer, “Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy”.

    It is a book in full. It is a biography that is actually interesting: it has the threat of murder which is always entertaining, and it seriously tackles important philosophical issues in both an intellectual and an emotional way.

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  6. philo Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment): I hope even one other Ricochettian will be inspired by your Quote of the Day to read this book.

    A thousand times, YES.

    A sample plucked from my 14 pages of notes to further whet the appetites:

    “He was immensely pro-Soviet,” she said, … “and then – one night – in Moscow – he heard screams.” … What Communist has not heard those screams? They come from husbands torn forever from their wives in midnight arrests. They come, muffled, from the execution cellars of the secret police, from the torture chambers of the Lubianka, from all the citadels of terror now stretching from Berlin to Canton. They come from those freight cars loaded with men, women and children, the enemies of the Communist State, locked in, packed in, left on remote sidings to freeze to death at night in the Russian winter. They come from minds driven mad by the horrors of mass starvation ordered and enforced as a policy of the Communist State. They come from the starved skeletons worked to death, or flogged to death (as an example to others) in the freezing filth of sub-Arctic labor camps. They come from children whose parents are suddenly, inexplicably, taken away from them – parents they will never see again. … What Communist has not heard those screams? Execution, says the Communist code, is the highest measure of social protection. What man can call himself a Communist who has not accepted the fact that Terror is an instrument of policy, right if the vision is right, justified by history, enjoined by the balance of forces in the social wars of this century? Those screams have reached every Communist’s mind. Usually they stop there. What judge willingly dwells upon the man the laws compel him to condemn to death – the laws of nations or the laws of history? … But one day the Communist really hears those screams. … He hears them for the first time. For they do not merely reach his mind. They pierce beyond. They pierce his soul. He says to himself: “Those are not the screams of a man in agony. Those are the screams of a soul in agony.” He hears them for the first time because a soul in extremity has communicated with that which can hear it – another human soul. – Pages 14-15

     

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    I highly recommend the audible version of Witness, which is, without question. one of the greatest books of the 20th century.

     

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    A video game producer said today he was proud that his team had created a community where all are welcome. He was responding to a player’s thanks for the addition of a “pride” rainbow cosmetic to the game. 

    There is no popular game developer or publisher that discourages gay gamers from playing; nor even one that turns a blind eye to verbal harrassment of such players. 

    So the real reason the producer is proud is because his company signaled that they are part of the cause of the day. As usual, results are irrelevant. It’s all about feelings.

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    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Thanks for bringing up a quote of Chambers. I don’t think a day has gone by since I finished “Witness” that one of his quotes or ideas has not come to mind. I hope even one other Ricochettian will be inspired by your Quote of the Day to read this book. It has affected me to a degree perhaps equaled by the biography of Bonhoefer, “Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy”.

    Great minds…Chambers’ Witness came to mind immediately: Who are the prophets/witnesses today?

     

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    You’ve encouraged not only everyone to read the book but have encouraged those of us who have to pull it out again and have another go.  Absolutely  incredible – and very readable – book.  The important books should be reread every few years or so.  It’s a way of calibrating one’s thinking to measure one’s growth and understanding.

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