When Will This Fad End?

 

This topic has been bouncing around my head for a while, but I’ve never gotten around to writing it. Someone on Ricochet will mention something, Jay Nordlinger months ago on a podcast complained about tattoos or a user whose name I forget recently said he was up for a good tattoo rant. Other times I see someone and think why?

I noticed markings on Dana Loesch’s arm in a Parkland CNN screenshot or a cross on a pastor’s back at a church swim party. Tattoos seem to be everywhere and there is no demographic that is exempt. This will come across as a get-off-my-lawn rant, but here we go.

I guess I’m a Generation X person. I still remember that about the only people who had tattoos were military veterans or criminals and they might only have one or two, no sleeves or multiple ones covering a lot of the body. Others might have had them, but they were in a private location. Maybe it was just where I grew up.

Some point along the way, tattoos became more mainstream. In the ’90s a lot of girls were getting lower back tattoos, but they were derided as “tramp stamps”. Then it seemed as though they exploded on the scene and everyone had one. Yes it’s me, but I have yet to see a tattoo that improves a woman’s appearance. As G. Gordon Liddy used to say, putting a tattoo on a woman is like putting a bumper sticker on a BMW. I will be glad when I don’t see ink everywhere I look.

Maybe things are changing. I saw this on Twitter. I don’t know what drove it, but we might be on the downward side of the trend. I can hope.

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  1. The Cynthonian Inactive
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    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    @alsparks, what is a “pastie” in this context? Many women who frequent nail salons these days have acrylic or gel overlays on their fingernails, which extend the natural nail bed sufficiently to show more color and/or design. Designs are often hand-painted on the nail by the manicurist.

    Honestly, I don’t know exactly how they are applied. I don’t like the artificialness of it. And whether you call them overlays or pasties, there’s obviously some sort of adhesive applied.

    And your statement about designs “often” handpainted, probably means that they “often” are not.

    Just getting back to this……why does the method of applying the design matter?

    Should we ever meet IRL, I shall invite you on a research trip to my favorite local nail salon.  ;-)

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  2. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler
    @Skyler

    To me, tattoos just look like a way to hide a skin disease.  Don’t touch me you dirty tattooed people.

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  3. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    They call me PJ Boy or they ca… (View Comment):

    JudithannCampbell (View Comment):
    Why do pretty women do this to themselves?

    Final answer: To protect themselves from guys like me?

    And we would need that protection because?… :-) 

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  4. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    They call me PJ Boy or they ca… (View Comment):

    Amy Schley (View Comment):
    A “runners high” is the same thing, though long distance running is a far more healthy and socially acceptable way of getting high off your own pain.

    I ran 2 marathons (fyi: there will not be a 3rd) and do not believe that ‘runners high’ is from pain. I think it is from teaching ones mind to overcome and become (almost completely) oblivious to the physical assertion of running.

    BTW: Pain is a good thing. That is why God gave us pain. A doctor once advised me not to ‘kill’ the nerves that were causing me some pretty annoying pain.

    Wisdom, Sñr. Caballero…

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  5. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    They call me PJ Boy or they ca… (View Comment):

    Mitchell Messom (View Comment):

    …give it 20 years I bet it will be a non issue.

    Except most people want a good paying job today, not 20 years from today. Just sayen’ dude.

    More wisdom, Sñr. Caballero…

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  6. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Concretevol (View Comment):
    Man, y’all are pretty puritanical aren’t you?

    And?

     

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  7. Randy Webster Inactive
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    I’m not anti-tattoo.  I just think they’re silly.  Unfortunately, I think the same about most of those who get them.

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  8. JudithannCampbell Member
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    Nanda Pajama-Tantrum (View Comment):

    They call me PJ Boy or they ca… (View Comment):

    JudithannCampbell (View Comment):
    Why do pretty women do this to themselves?

    Final answer: To protect themselves from guys like me?

    And we would need that protection because?… :-)

    Nanda, is that a serious question, or are you joking? :)

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  9. Randy Webster Inactive
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    PHenry (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    Why are so many women getting them as a form of decoration, when they don’t add anything to a person’s appearance and a good case can be made that they detract?

    In your humble opinion! Do you somehow believe that women are getting tat’s because they think they make them uglier? Or that if young men shunned and disregarded tattooed girls, that they would do it anyway?

    I understand, to some of us with older eyes and old fashioned worldviews, they are shocking and not attractive. I’m here to tell you- to younger men and women they are quite attractive. They like them, they respect them, they find them bold and independent and a form of self expression. And yes, the permanent nature of them is a big part of it. They show dedication to their self image and to the admittedly youthful compulsion to demand “I will always feel this way, be this way, think this way. I won’t ever get so old that I look at people with tattoos and think they are foolish or ugly. I will never become my parents! “

    I’m not a young man, but I remember feeling that way when I was in my early adult years. Don’t you?

    No.

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  10. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    PHenry (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    Why are so many women getting them as a form of decoration, when they don’t add anything to a person’s appearance and a good case can be made that they detract?

    In your humble opinion! Do you somehow believe that women are getting tat’s because they think they make them uglier? Or that if young men shunned and disregarded tattooed girls, that they would do it anyway?

    I understand, to some of us with older eyes and old fashioned worldviews, they are shocking and not attractive. I’m here to tell you- to younger men and women they are quite attractive. They like them, they respect them, they find them bold and independent and a form of self expression. And yes, the permanent nature of them is a big part of it. They show dedication to their self image and to the admittedly youthful compulsion to demand “I will always feel this way, be this way, think this way. I won’t ever get so old that I look at people with tattoos and think they are foolish or ugly. I will never become my parents! “

    I’m not a young man, but I remember feeling that way when I was in my early adult years. Don’t you?

    I rebelled against my parent’s expectations by getting married at 18 and staying married for the next almost 16 years while picking up two bachelor’s and a law degree. So yeah, embracing the same “I’m sticking [it] to the man!” attitude that kids have been doing for the last 50 years (yes, the British invasion was really that long ago) never really appealed to me.

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  11. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Umbra of Nex (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Third, the coolest tatts by far (sorry veterans) are on large Samoan/Polynesian men. They just fit.

    Polynesian men are a special exception. That’s a case of embracing tradition, not snubbing it.

    I think that’s why it’s aesthetically appealing. It makes cultural sense.

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  12. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    JudithannCampbell (View Comment):

    Nanda Pajama-Tantrum (View Comment):

    They call me PJ Boy or they ca… (View Comment):

    JudithannCampbell (View Comment):
    Why do pretty women do this to themselves?

    Final answer: To protect themselves from guys like me?

    And we would need that protection because?… :-)

    Nanda, is that a serious question, or are you joking? :)

    The :-) usually connotes teasing of a gentle sort, where ST is concerned, JaC; however, I’m intrigued by how he might reply, just a little…

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  13. Miffed White Male Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Umbra of Nex (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Third, the coolest tatts by far (sorry veterans) are on large Samoan/Polynesian men. They just fit.

    Polynesian men are a special exception. That’s a case of embracing tradition, not snubbing it.

    I think that’s why it’s aesthetically appealing. It makes cultural sense.

    Aha – that’s how we can kill the tattoo trend – label it as cultural appropriation.

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  14. Kim K. Inactive
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    No one has mentioned the extent to which professional athletes are covered in ink. Have they been following the trend or are they partially responsible for it.

    I can’t think of anything I’d want permanently inscribed on my skin. I have a feeling for people with ink the permanence is a feature, not a bug.

    Months ago my son told me about his new girlfriend. They were becoming serious and my husband and I hadn’t met her yet. She had been previously married. Ok. She had a young son. Ok. She goes to church. Ok. She has several tattoos. At which point my son said, Mom, I told her it wouldn’t be a problem for you. And it hasn’t been. Her ink (and she has lots of it) is of the flowery variety. Her sleeve is well designed and each part has a particular significance that is meaningful to her. Again, I would never choose to decorate my skin that way. But she has chosen to and it doesn’t mean she is low class, lacking imagination, suffering from low self-esteem, or “in love with the needle.” 

    Gotta say, this thread seems kinda judge-y.

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  15. tigerlily Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    Mitchell Messom (View Comment):

    Also of note its odd to complain about tattoos when one considers the amount of male circumcision in US. That’s a rather permanent change and one that lacks consent. One could say that’s rather “primitive”.

    Since it helps with hygiene, circumcision is a practical medical decision. Hardly primitive.

    Plus, I don’t recall ever seeing a circumcised penis displayed in public.

    You’ve never met Bill Clinton…

    Or Anthony Weiner.

    • #195
  16. TBA Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Small and discrete graphics are one thing. But now I see women all over the place who have sentences and paragraphs of text tat’ed all over their upper arms and shoulders. I don’t get it.

    Maybe they shopped their novel around and then decided to self-publish. 

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  17. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    As I may’ve mentioned here before, I have a younger sister. She has several life-event reminders in ink. As do all of her adult children – to a greater or lesser degree.  I love them, even if I’d rather they weren’t walking art galleries.

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  18. TBA Coolidge
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Tattoos on women are especially unappealing, as to me it’s like graffiti on a lovely building.

    I believe that an asymmetrical oriental scrollish tattoo on a woman’s back that takes into account her body as a whole – including where arms normally go and a sort of balance of figure to ground – could be a work of art. 

    It’s a matter of the tattoo artist actually being an artist. And not a tagger, or one of those ‘and-the-kitchen-sink muralists. 

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  19. TBA Coolidge
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    And sometimes a tattoo can announce that we are an idiot.

    Image result for vegan face tattoo

    At that one my hind brain does not say “just, no.” It says “run away!” It is the words that elevate that tattoo from Amber to Flashing Red. Vegans are bat[CoC] crazy.

    “In my day when we wanted to mess up our septums we just did lines of coke. 

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  20. TBA Coolidge
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    PHenry (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    I call shenanigans.

    If you see two people walking down the street, one wearing a suit and tie and carrying a briefcase, and the other wearing gym shorts, a wifebeater t-shirt, a baseball cap sideways and carrying a 40 oz bottle of malt liquor, you’re not going to make a snap judgement of the one over the other?

    If true, you’re a better man than I am.

     

    As I said, we all have first impressions. The wise man knows that the dude in a suit and tie is just as likely to be a creep as the one in a tank top and shorts.

    I don’t think ‘just as likely’ is accurate. 

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  21. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    PHenry (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    he or she has just told me something about themselves.

    What, exactly, has he or she told you about themselves that makes you think they are no longer worthy of respect? This is what I am somewhat astonished at, this idea that ‘I wouldn’t do that, I don’t think it’s attractive’ translates to ‘you are beneath me, low class, and not worthy of my respect’.

    Can you really judge a book by its cover? How about a man?

    “…the average person sees between 90,000 and 42.5 million faces in their lifetime.”  Really judge? Nah. Judge well enough in relation to the time and effort it would take to delve deeply into the hearts and souls of every [redact]hole on the street? Absolutely. 

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  22. They call me PJ Boy or they ca… Member
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    PHenry (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    Why are so many women getting them as a form of decoration, when they don’t add anything to a person’s appearance and a good case can be made that they detract?

    In your humble opinion! Do you somehow believe that women are getting tat’s because they think they make them uglier? Or that if young men shunned and disregarded tattooed girls, that they would do it anyway?

    I understand, to some of us with older eyes and old fashioned worldviews, they are shocking and not attractive. I’m here to tell you- to younger men and women they are quite attractive. They like them, they respect them, they find them bold and independent and a form of self expression. And yes, the permanent nature of them is a big part of it. They show dedication to their self image and to the admittedly youthful compulsion to demand “I will always feel this way, be this way, think this way. I won’t ever get so old that I look at people with tattoos and think they are foolish or ugly. I will never become my parents! “

    I’m not a young man, but I remember feeling that way when I was in my early adult years. Don’t you?

    No.

    me neither

    • #202
  23. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    This might be the post that has my spouse joining ricochet. Goddess bless, but he hates tattoos.

    • #203
  24. TBA Coolidge
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    What I don’t understand is the tepid tattoo. “Why did you get it?” “Oh, I don’t know, it was just sorta cool looking.” Ok, but posters and paintings look cool – why permanently mark your body? For what purpose not served better by other non-permanent, non-body altering choices?

    I suppose it is possible that the ubiquity of images online and the ease of printing them out has drained a lot of the value out paintings and photographs such that permanent and irreproducible ink gains value by comparison. 

     

    • #204
  25. TBA Coolidge
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    Amy Schley (View Comment):

    PHenry (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    Why are so many women getting them as a form of decoration, when they don’t add anything to a person’s appearance and a good case can be made that they detract?

    In your humble opinion! Do you somehow believe that women are getting tat’s because they think they make them uglier? Or that if young men shunned and disregarded tattooed girls, that they would do it anyway?

    I understand, to some of us with older eyes and old fashioned worldviews, they are shocking and not attractive. I’m here to tell you- to younger men and women they are quite attractive. They like them, they respect them, they find them bold and independent and a form of self expression. And yes, the permanent nature of them is a big part of it. They show dedication to their self image and to the admittedly youthful compulsion to demand “I will always feel this way, be this way, think this way. I won’t ever get so old that I look at people with tattoos and think they are foolish or ugly. I will never become my parents! “

    I’m not a young man, but I remember feeling that way when I was in my early adult years. Don’t you?

    I rebelled against my parent’s expectations by getting married at 18 and staying married for the next almost 16 years while picking up two bachelor’s and a law degree. So yeah, embracing the same “sticking to the man!” attitude that kids have been doing for the last 50 years (yes, the British invasion was really that long ago) never really appealed to me.

    Do you mean ‘sticking to the man’ or ‘sticking it to the man’? 

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  26. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Kim K. (View Comment):

    No one has mentioned the extent to which professional athletes are covered in ink. Have they been following the trend or are they partially responsible for it.

    I can’t think of anything I’d want permanently inscribed on my skin. I have a feeling for people with ink the permanence is a feature, not a bug.

    Months ago my son told me about his new girlfriend. They were becoming serious and my husband and I hadn’t met her yet. She had been previously married. Ok. She had a young son. Ok. She goes to church. Ok. She has several tattoos. At which point my son said, Mom, I told her it wouldn’t be a problem for you. And it hasn’t been. Her ink (and she has lots of it) is of the flowery variety. Her sleeve is well designed and each part has a particular significance that is meaningful to her. Again, I would never choose to decorate my skin that way. But she has chosen to and it doesn’t mean she is low class, lacking imagination, suffering from low self-esteem, or “in love with the needle.”

    Gotta say, this thread seems kinda judge-y.

    It is judge-y. I mean, what else is this? But that is what becoming an elder is about, perhaps.

    I can remember my mom calling out both my first husband and me over his long hair. I couldn’t understand her disapproval. He did his time in the service; he got great grades in college. He made decent money. But all she focused on was the hair that came creeping down past his collar.

    My response to her insanity was quite clear cut. “Never. I will never be like that.” And of course if today’s “kids” only had guys with long hair I’d be okay with it. But each generation has to out-radicalize the prior generations. I think it is part of their job description.

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  27. Bob Armstrong Thatcher
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    A salty sea-dog Chief once admonished a group of us young squids not to get tattoos:

    “You know, this whole Navy thing might not work out for you, and if take up a life of crime instead, you don’t want any identifying features.”

    Read and heed.

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  28. Henry Castaigne Member
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    What’s the similarity between Mormons and African refugees?

    They don’t curse and they don’t have tattoos.

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  29. Ed G. Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    What I don’t understand is the tepid tattoo. “Why did you get it?” “Oh, I don’t know, it was just sorta cool looking.” Ok, but posters and paintings look cool – why permanently mark your body? For what purpose not served better by other non-permanent, non-body altering choices?

    I suppose it is possible that the ubiquity of images online and the ease of printing them out has drained a lot of the value out paintings and photographs such that permanent and irreproducible ink gains value by comparison.

    It just makes cool images more accessible, IMO. If you want to see something cool, then go online and browse away. Don’t go too deep, though, because porn is always a few clicks away. It’s the new Kevin Bacon game, except there’s breasts at the end of the game instead of Kevin Bacon.

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  30. Skyler Coolidge
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    @Skyler

    When the economy thrives again, we will see a drop off in tattoos.  The rise of tattoos has corresponded with the collapse of hope.  People think they won’t ever have a meaningful future so they don’t feel a need to look hireable.

    I’m not saying that all people that have tattoos are hopeless ne’er-do-wells, but that is where the fad started and grew.  Then there were so many people out of work and believing they would never have a good career, that it jumped from the goth/meth junkie crowds, to the generic unemployable crowd and then to mainstream when the unemployable crowd became main stream.

    We will need a generation of prosperity for this fad to ebb away again.  I compare it to the growth of beards during and after the War Between the States. Presidents stopped wearing beards when they stopped being veterans of that war.

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