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  1. Guruforhire Inactive
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    maybe we will see real change in the world, or maybe we won’t.

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  2. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Has any information come out of the meeting?

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  3. Whistle Pig Member
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    Well, he didn’t bow.  That’s a nice change.

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  4. Chuckles Coolidge
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    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    maybe we will see real change in the world, or maybe we won’t.

    Maybe you’re correct.

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  5. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    @Max

    Chuckles (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    maybe we will see real change in the world, or maybe we won’t.

    Maybe you’re correct.

    Or maybe not.

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  6. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    @Max

    Just a week or so ago a NeverTrump friend of mine lamented the “collapse of a peace summit between a warmonger [Trump] and the guy he threatened to nuke [Kim].”

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  7. toggle Inactive
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    Or maybe not.

    Yeah, it will be Dennis Rodman who gets the next Nobel Peace Prize.

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  8. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    toggle (View Comment):

    Or maybe not.

    Yeah, it will be Dennis Rodman who gets the next Nobel Peace Prize.

    Did you see the Chris Coma interview with Rodman? Pretty interesting!

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  9. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    @Max

    Can’t believe I have to defend CNN and Chris Coma, but Rodman actually has spent more time with Kim than any other American, so I don’t see why CNN shouldn’t interview him.

    Also, that’s just Chris Coma’s face.

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  10. Clifford A. Brown Member
    Clifford A. Brown
    @CliffordBrown

    The White House communications team is running a masterful information campaign. See my assessment in the members section — not subscribed? Now’s the time.

    Ah, promoted to Main Feed now. But you should still subscribe!

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  11. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    @Max

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  12. Clifford A. Brown Member
    Clifford A. Brown
    @CliffordBrown

    Unless there is a drastic failure, the meeting will run through the night in the lower 48. Prayers are warranted as most Americans lay down to sleep tonight. May we wake to good news. 

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  13. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    toggle (View Comment):

    Or maybe not.

    Yeah, it will be Dennis Rodman who gets the next Nobel Peace Prize.

    Put the Nobel presentation ceremony on  pay-per-view. Use WWE or UFC announcers. Get Joe Rogan to do the post-presentation interview.

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  14. Roberto the Weary Inactive
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    Ricochet Editors' Desk:

    President Donald Trump has met Kim Jong-Un in Singapore. Share your thoughts about this historic meeting in the comments below.

    Too early to say. Maybe something good, maybe a terrible deal or maybe nothing at all. At this point there is no telling. 

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  15. drlorentz Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Put the Nobel presentation ceremony on pay-per-view. Use WWE or UFC announcers. Get Joe Rogan to do the post-presentation interview.

    “Did you see Trump gave King Harald his famous handshake when he took the diploma? After a few moments of light banter, there was a tense moment when Harald suggested they go out and knock back a few Hansa Borg Pils. Trump was overheard saying, ‘I don’t drink, Harry, but let’s go anyway. I’m buying.’ This is historic, ladies and gentlemen.”

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  16. Don Tillman Member
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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    toggle (View Comment):

    Or maybe not.

    Yeah, it will be Dennis Rodman who gets the next Nobel Peace Prize.

    Did you see the Chris Coma interview with Rodman? Pretty interesting!

    It’s amazing…

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  17. Clifford A. Brown Member
    Clifford A. Brown
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    If the morning brings good news, someone with skills must do a WWE meme with DJT-Kim tag team on CNN and NYT.

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  18. Clifford A. Brown Member
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  19. Clifford A. Brown Member
    Clifford A. Brown
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    Now here is the multi-dimensional chess move: the same day of the US-North Korea meeting, the US unveiled a de facto embassy in Taiwan. The Trump administration is moving pieces on multiple boards to check China.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-diplomacy/u-s-unveils-de-facto-embassy-in-taiwan-amid-china-tensions-idUSKBN1J72QS

     

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  20. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Hat tip @drlorentz

    From The Straits Times executive editor, see her Twitter feed for the key photos of the signing ceremony. 

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  21. Zafar Member
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    The four commitments signed by Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un

     

    1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

    2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

    3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work towards the complete denuclearisation of the Korean Peninsula.

    4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

    And of course The Guardian is never satisfied.

    Also – NK blowing up a major missile engine testing site was announced, but it may not be in the signed agreement.

     

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  22. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    The four commitments signed by Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un

     

    1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

    2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

    3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work towards the complete denuclearisation of the Korean Peninsula.

    4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

    And of course The Guardian is never satisfied.

    Also – NK blowing up a major missile engine testing site was announced, but it may not be in the signed agreement.

     

    Those look encouraging, if aspirational.

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  23. Jailer Inactive
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    In response to a question about this today, I almost said I was “cautiously optimistic”. But then I considered everything I’ve learned about making deals with the Hermit Kingdom over the past quarter century, and changed my answer to “pessimistically hopeful”. Maybe that’s not actually a thing, but it’s what came to mind. 

    Because you know, I really WANT to believe. It’s just …

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  24. Franco Member
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    I’m pretty optimistic based on the following simple analysis:

    Trump has made a huge political investment in this

    Trump isperfectly capable of making life very much more miserable for NK should they revert to their old ways and he will have to come down very hard.

    NK is getting zero out of this yet. (The argument that this summit “legitimizes” Kim is desperate naysaying)

    Kim Jong Un’s public statements and signed declarations will be impossible to walk back without horrific consequences for his regime.

    Kim is not stupid or crazy.

    So, the idea that Kim is playing games doesn’t make sense.

    I don’t see any upside for anyone going backward. It looks like the general path can only be forward.

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  25. Kozak Member
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    LOL. If this had happened under Obama the press would be in ecstasy and the carvers would be swarming over Mt Rushmore to add him as the fifth head….

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  26. Kozak Member
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    Franco (View Comment):
    NK is getting zero out of this yet. (The argument that this summit “legitimizes” Kim is desperate naysaying)

    Lil Kim was “legitimized” the day he actually had a nuclear weapon.

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  27. Gary Robbins Member
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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Donna Brazile’s tweet is the right tone.  I am a fervent NeverTrumper.  Donna Brazile is a fervent Democrat.  We have only one president at a time, and President Trump is it.  Our prayers go with him.

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  28. Umbra of Nex, Fractus Inactive
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    LOL. If this had happened under Obama the press would be in ecstasy and the carvers would be swarming over Mt Rushmore to add him as the fifth head….

    And the right would be excoriating Obama for “legitimizing” Kim and fretting that “lasting peace,” for Kim, means the US leaving South Korea (and this leaving them vulnerable to invasion.) There’s plenty of hypocrisy to go around.

    I pray I’m wrong, but I’m with @jailer until proven otherwise.

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  29. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    I still get to keep my tax cut if this fails, right?

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  30. Kozak Member
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    Umbra of Nex, Fractus (View Comment):
    And the right would be excoriating Obama for “legitimizing” Kim and fretting that “lasting peace,” for Kim, means the US leaving South Korea (and this leaving them vulnerable to invasion.) There’s plenty of hypocrisy to go around.

    South Korea has 51 million population, the Norks 26.

    South Korea has a 1.4 trillion GDP the Norks 12.4 billion.

     

    I think they can manage.

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