Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Our Republic’s Greatest Threat?

 

Among the things which are lost when modern progressives dominate the scene is a true sense of reality. Since they deal mostly in the never-to-be, in their worldview terrorists become victims, suicide pacts become peace agreements and dependency becomes a career path.

But hopefully, one of the features of the conservative mind is that it keeps alive the lessons hard learned from the past. One of those is that the greatest threats normally come from within. That is even true of a world with would-be nuclear heathens almost in every corner. And it is especially true for anyone who would endeavor to self-govern in liberty.

The American nation has fought a revolution against the most powerful military force on the globe in which it faced sure defeat at least six different times and survived. A few years later, it was invaded and had its capital burned. It tore itself apart with a brutal civil war against itself. It spread itself from one ocean to another in defiance of three major world powers. It fought and won two world wars and prevailed in a cold war which promised world destruction. But it survived all of those because it was born with both the ability and the moral authority to handle it all. Outside threats can be forted-up against. They can be attacked outright and smashed. It is the threats from within that weaken and destroy. Just ask any Roman.

We are living through, and watching unfold, the greatest scandal of our history. It is also the most dangerous to our republic. It did not just happen overnight simply because we happen to have a few bad people in place at a certain time. There are always such people. There are always opportunities for them, here and in every society and every age. This is the natural result of 100 years of progressive thought and embedment in our society and our politics.

Politics by itself is slimy enough. It is corrupting by itself because it deals in power over others (which is also true of progressivism). That is just one of the reasons that politicos and government should be given as few things as possible to “fix.” Politicians tend not to “fix” problems but to ingrain problems because that empowers them.

The presidential election of 2016 is a prime example of what happens when government and the slimy characters who attach themselves to it for a lifetime become too big and too important in the daily lives of the citizens. Once again, this has been true since the beginning of governments. That is why the Founders divided both the government and its power as much as possible. Their impact was designed to be limited, or not at all, except in certain, specialized areas.

The 2016 election is resulting in the scab being torn from an ugly infection that is exposed more and more each day for those willing to look honestly. We can only hope that the sunlight will begin a curing process to at least limit that infection. For 100 years we have ignored the constitutional remedy for it.

It is now apparent to any who will read that the effort to undermine a possible Trump presidency began at least as early as April before he even secured the nomination as a “just in case” measure. It began in the government itself among the likes of John Brennan at CIA and a band of FBI agents using the title of Crossfire Hurricane. Daily, more and more details come to light. They are often thinly veiled as the New York Times piece yesterday (May 16) trying to put a more positive spin on the Crossfire Hurricane cabal since it appears it will soon be exposed through the efforts of the House.

There is little need at this moment to review the complete backgrounds of government gutter rats like Mueller, Comey, Brennan, Strzok, and Clapper. They are just representative of a professional, elitist political class that the Founders hoped to avoid. They now include just about all of the Democratic Party, most of the establishment of the GOP and certainly the majority of the media who consider themselves to be a vital part of it all. They all work to maintain a status quo in which government is ever-growing and they are at its center.

Without chasing all the rabbits down the holes, what the scab being torn from the 2016 election revels is a political class that is determined to impose its own will on the nation. Elections don’t matter to them unless they come out “right.”

In my mind, the two flies in the ointment for the political classes were Trump and Cruz, and perhaps Paul to a lesser extent. If any of the other GOP hopefuls won the nomination or even the presidency, they could be “handled.” If it had been Cruz there would have been a panic as well. A different kind than with Trump but still a panic on the parts of Dems, GOP establishments, and the media. All the others could be handled much like both of the Bushes had been, and Ford before them. Government would still grow, most of the Obama measures would be talked down to but hardly changed, radical inroads made would be left intact.

This political class does not believe in its own accountability. As a result, Congress has all but abandoned much of its oversight responsibility except for a few well-timed camera spots which are full of sound and fury … you know the rest.

A wide range of agencies write thousands of pages of regulations each year that have the weight of law but never are passed by the Congress. These agencies are manned by a bureaucratic class that actually carries more weight than Congress itself. EPA, BLM, USDA, and dozens of others are waiting to inject themselves into the daily lives of citizens in every corner of the nation without challenge. They and many more including the Department of Education have their very own SWAT type enforcement units. The mandates they hand down to ranchers in Utah, homeowners in Florida, barbers in New York and school principals in Kansas have to be enforced far beyond the short-sightedness of “bitter clingers” more interested in having control of their own lives than the “common good” which is more clearly seen from a desk on a third floor in DC.

The siting Obama administration did more to interfere with the election of 2016 than the Russians could have imagined doing. And they left behind a dumpster full of broken laws in doing it. Not only was the Trump campaign spied on electronically but apparently the FBI had at least one spy actually in the campaign. And now after a year of investigation by Mueller, there is not a single thing to link the Trump campaign to any Russian collusion. But the hunt will continue as far as the left is concerned. The objective is to disrupt Trump’s administration as much as possible if not drive him from office. All of this is still being aided by a media which has thrown away any pretense of integrity in the leaks they use, mostly illegal in this case, as evidenced by the May 16 piece in the Times.

The empowerment is not just of the central government or the leftist who populate it. It is of an elite political class comprised of bureaucratic lifers, media types, “intellectuals” and those who consider elective office a career path (of either party). Unelected, unaccountable judges who see their role more as last resort vehicles for “change,” “social justice,” or “social equality” instead of the rule of law or equality under the law can be added to the list.

In effect, this set of political elites serve to marginalize, if not exclude, what were to be the two most important elements of our carefully balanced governmental arrangement – the people and the states. To a great extent, they have they done just that. The election of 2016 is their attempt to complete the circle by controlling the election of a president, which was left exclusively to the people and the states. In might be more accurate to say that constitutionally the task was left to the people of the states. That is in effect what the electoral college does. It is not intended to be a nationwide egalitarian exercise but a state-centered one reflecting the character and interests of each of the states.

I am not sure how this will play out. Each day seems to add yet another damning layer to the political espionage that seems to have been so cavalierly done. I suspect some, if not a lot, of the scrambling we see is because of the forthcoming Inspector General’s Report.

I do believe that we are seeing a lot of protecting going on by these types. The rats are, of course, first of all trying to find a way to protect themselves. They are trying to protect Obama which is what led to a lot of this so far. When things (as in the election) didn’t turn out as planned, the political espionage which had become so commonplace in that administration had to be hidden in some way. I don’t even include Hillary in the protection scheme because in my mind the protection of Hillary, from very real felony charges, was little more than the playing out of the overall plan. Her election was just a continuation of the “fundamental change”. She was an interchangeable part.

I do believe that the whole sorted mess has to have a cost to it as well as an exposure that is as complete as possible. I am still not sure what that looks like but this is a tide which has to be turned, or at the very least the beginning of the beginning of a real turn.

Also in some way, the Clinton Foundation model has to be discredited. It cannot be allowed to continue as it has. Obama’s Organizing For America is setting on “go” to become the same thing, and they won’t be the last. If this becomes the standard, we have not just surrendered our national politics to the slimy political class within our own borders but internationally as well. There is no greater example of foreign collusion to influence American politics than the “pay for play” Clinton Foundation taking in hundreds of millions of foreign dollars for considerations in future administrations.

If the American people allow this president to be handcuffed any more than he already has been or to be driven from office by the rantings of this corrupt crowd, they will have surrendered their will to govern themselves. It is hardly about Trump himself. It is not about his character, his crassness, his morality, his tweets or even his policies which so far have been more conservative and more successful than could have been dreamed of 24 months ago. He is an imperfect man overseeing an imperfect administration regardless of its successes or failures.

It is about constitutional self-governance in a republic, a tricky matter in the best of situations. It is about maintaining the liberty and independence of the individual in America, not of a political class. Federalism itself is what we are talking about, the notion that a central government’s powers should be “few and defined” as Madison argued in Federalist 46. He wrote of a republic where the majority of the laws encountered by a citizen originated at levels of government close to him by representative he could look in the face on occasion. Without some element of that, self-government becomes an empty term.

We have just finished eight years of what was easily the most constitutionally impeachable presidency of our history, hands down, almost from the first day. It was allowed to continue practically unchallenged because of a political class in both parties, in the media and in the courts. Now if that same class can merely cancel out election results it hates without a price, the most important instrument of government ever written by mankind may well be on the way to becoming a dead document. It has already been seriously wounded. If we value it, it is time to stop the bleeding.

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I like your points. I think dislike of Trump for being an outsider to the normal political culture is tribal. He is not “one of us” enough for the whole political class, on the right and left, to reject him. The Republic is no divided mostly by the ruling class and its outer party, those serfs who support said ruling class, and the other 40% of America.

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    • May 18, 2018, at 3:22 PM PDT
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  2. Jim Beck Member

    Evening Summers,

    Sharyl Attkisson tweeted today about how the FBI/DoJ are fighting so hard because what might be uncovered will span 10 or 20 years of Hoover-like abuse of power. I think that a fair slice of the entire bureaucracy acts as if they are untouchable, and not without cause. Other than Sharyl, whose computer was hacked by our govt, why do none of our conservative writers get worked up about this threat, the largest threat to our liberty?

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    • May 18, 2018, at 5:27 PM PDT
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  3. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I look forward to the Inspector General’s report.

    Examples need to be made to the fullest extent of the law.

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    • May 19, 2018, at 11:38 AM PDT
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  4. Sash Member

    Your blaming of Republicans undermines your whole argument… there are bad actors in the Republican Party, but differing from you in ideas and issues does not make them part of the corruption… it makes them people with different views. Which Democrats exploit and you fall victim too. It’s okay to disagree. That is NOT corruption.

    This is a corruption of the political system by and for Democrats. Bush was a victim… as were numerous politicians who were undone by judicial fiat… such as Palin and Fife Symington in AZ years ago, many many others. 

    This is corruption in the Democrat Party first and foremost. It is FASCIST in nature and culminated in Obama. Obama only pretended to step down as President, he was electing a surrogate the same way Putin did… so Obama could keep pulling the strings, forever. Obama learned from Putin.

    Brennan worked for Obama. Clapper worked for Obama. Sally Yates worked for Obama. ETC.

    We have seen fascism in America… and oddly enough, it’s Trump who is bringing it down, if it can be brought down.

    I didn’t vote for him, but Trump is a godsend.

     

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    • May 19, 2018, at 11:54 AM PDT
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  5. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Sash (View Comment):

    Your blaming of Republicans undermines your whole argument… there are bad actors in the Republican Party, but differing from you in ideas and issues does not make them part of the corruption… it makes them people with different views. Which Democrats exploit and you fall victim too. It’s okay to disagree. That is NOT corruption.

    This is a corruption of the political system by and for Democrats. Bush was a victim… as were numerous politicians who were undone by judicial fiat… such as Palin and Fife Symington in AZ years ago, many many others.

    This is corruption in the Democrat Party first and foremost. It is FASCIST in nature and culminated in Obama. Obama only pretended to step down as President, he was electing a surrogate the same way Putin did… so Obama could keep pulling the strings, forever. Obama learned from Putin.

    Brennan worked for Obama. Clapper worked for Obama. Sally Yates worked for Obama. ETC.

    We have seen fascism in America… and oddly enough, it’s Trump who is bringing it down, if it can be brought down.

    I didn’t vote for him, but Trump is a godsend.

     

    The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. They are part of the same group.

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    • May 19, 2018, at 1:32 PM PDT
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  6. Annefy Member

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Sash (View Comment):

    Your blaming of Republicans undermines your whole argument… there are bad actors in the Republican Party, but differing from you in ideas and issues does not make them part of the corruption… it makes them people with different views. Which Democrats exploit and you fall victim too. It’s okay to disagree. That is NOT corruption.

    This is a corruption of the political system by and for Democrats. Bush was a victim… as were numerous politicians who were undone by judicial fiat… such as Palin and Fife Symington in AZ years ago, many many others.

    This is corruption in the Democrat Party first and foremost. It is FASCIST in nature and culminated in Obama. Obama only pretended to step down as President, he was electing a surrogate the same way Putin did… so Obama could keep pulling the strings, forever. Obama learned from Putin.

    Brennan worked for Obama. Clapper worked for Obama. Sally Yates worked for Obama. ETC.

    We have seen fascism in America… and oddly enough, it’s Trump who is bringing it down, if it can be brought down.

    I didn’t vote for him, but Trump is a godsend.

    The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. They are part of the same group.

    That there are some Republicans just as bad is not surprising. I’ve been noodling for months the notion that I’ve lived 50+ years with a chart in my head that was horizontal, left to right. One could plot just about anyone somewhere on that scale.

    Trump has upended the apple cart; I now believe the scale also runs vertical, with elites and some pundits in good company with someone nowhere near them on the horizontal scale, but standing in solidarity with them on the top of the vertical scale. Mona Charen, Bill Kristol, George Will and lots of others are all good examples.

    I have a very good friend who is left of Bernie Sanders. She is using George Will (someone she disdained not too long ago) to bolster her anti-Trump rants.

    The people at the top of that vertical scale (but on the right and left of the horizontal scale) have a visceral fear that hundreds of millions of people might realize they don’t need someone with a Yale degree to tell them what’s up.

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    • May 19, 2018, at 5:22 PM PDT
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  7. Unsk Member

    From Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse aka The Last Refuge:

    Senator Chuck Grassley Asks Rod Rosenstein if He Gave Mueller Independent FISA Authority…

    “Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley has sent a letter and list of questions to Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein asking about the appointment, instructions and power of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

    The primary question within the letter is: under what authority, and within what statute, is the AAG authorized to assign a counterintelligence investigation to a special counsel:

    “More specifically, section 600.1 states the Attorney General “will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted.” The omitted regulations do not authorize counterintelligence investigations.””

    Oh-oh. When a moderate like Chuck Grassley starts asking the central question of this whole Special Counsel Treasonous Mess, Rosenstein, Mueller, Comey and their band of Deep State traitors are in big, big trouble. Grassley has finally noted that Rosenstein did not have the power to authorize a counterintelligence operation against the Trump Campaign, and of course then could not legally use any evidence gleaned or more likely fabricated from that illegal counterintelligence operation as a criminal predicate to conduct any criminal investigations.

    Game, Set, Match. The Fat Lady is warming up to start singing.

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    • May 19, 2018, at 6:25 PM PDT
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  8. blood thirsty neocon Inactive

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

     The Republic is no divided mostly by the ruling class and its outer party, those serfs who support said ruling class, and the other 40% of America.

    Deep state Never Trumpers are like a much nerdier Spartan elite. They engage in a perpetual state of war against the helots on whose slave labor they depend. It’s time these poindexters get what’s coming to them. 
     

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    • May 19, 2018, at 9:02 PM PDT
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  9. Richard Easton Member

    Unsk (View Comment):

    From Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse aka The Last Refuge:

    Senator Chuck Grassley Asks Rod Rosenstein if He Gave Mueller Independent FISA Authority…

    “Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley has sent a letter and list of questions to Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein asking about the appointment, instructions and power of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

    The primary question within the letter is: under what authority, and within what statute, is the AAG authorized to assign a counterintelligence investigation to a special counsel:

    “More specifically, section 600.1 states the Attorney General “will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted.” The omitted regulations do not authorize counterintelligence investigations.””

    Oh-oh. When a moderate like Chuck Grassley starts asking the central question of this whole Special Counsel Treasonous Mess, Rosenstein, Mueller, Comey and their band of Deep State traitors are in big, big trouble. Grassley has finally noted that Rosenstein did not have the power to authorize a counterintelligence operation against the Trump Campaign, and of course then could not legally use any evidence gleaned or more likely fabricated from that illegal counterintelligence operation as a criminal predicate to conduct any criminal investigations.

    Game, Set, Match. The Fat Lady is warming up to start singing.

    I hope that you’re right. But the congressional Republicans have been gutless wonders on the IRS scandal wrt the Tea Party. I’m still waiting for anyone to be held accountable in the bureaucracy for the scandals and abuses of the Obama administration.

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    • May 19, 2018, at 10:13 PM PDT
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  10. RufusRJones Member

    Unsk (View Comment):

    From Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse aka The Last Refuge:

    Senator Chuck Grassley Asks Rod Rosenstein if He Gave Mueller Independent FISA Authority…

    “Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley has sent a letter and list of questions to Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein asking about the appointment, instructions and power of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

    The primary question within the letter is: under what authority, and within what statute, is the AAG authorized to assign a counterintelligence investigation to a special counsel:

    “More specifically, section 600.1 states the Attorney General “will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted.” The omitted regulations do not authorize counterintelligence investigations.””

    Oh-oh. When a moderate like Chuck Grassley starts asking the central question of this whole Special Counsel Treasonous Mess, Rosenstein, Mueller, Comey and their band of Deep State traitors are in big, big trouble. Grassley has finally noted that Rosenstein did not have the power to authorize a counterintelligence operation against the Trump Campaign, and of course then could not legally use any evidence gleaned or more likely fabricated from that illegal counterintelligence operation as a criminal predicate to conduct any criminal investigations.

    Game, Set, Match. The Fat Lady is warming up to start singing.

    Just think if think if there were any Republicans in the media. 

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    • May 20, 2018, at 12:01 AM PDT
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  11. RufusRJones Member

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The Republic is no divided mostly by the ruling class and its outer party, those serfs who support said ruling class, and the other 40% of America.

    Deep state Never Trumpers are like a much nerdier Spartan elite. They engage in a perpetual state of war against the helots on whose slave labor they depend. It’s time these poindexters get what’s coming to them.

    Lois Lerner. Think of all of the money she has. Look up what she did to The Republic. 100% destructive parasite. 

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    • May 20, 2018, at 12:04 AM PDT
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  12. Stad Thatcher

    Annefy (View Comment):
    50+

    This must be a typo . . .

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    • May 20, 2018, at 5:46 AM PDT
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  13. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Trump is not the first world leader to bray “Only I can fix things.” The history of the world is filled with such people who are busy in building their own “Cult of Personality.” However, Trump is the first American President to try to do so.

    It is not that people like me say, “He isn’t one of us.” I say that Trump’s strongman act isn’t American.

    Madison and the other framers of the Constitution knew the long history of despots and tyrants in the world. The Framers created an Electoral College so that the rise of such a person would be slowed or prevented. They added that no President may accept gifts, which they called “Emoluments” in an older use of the word. Not only can a President be removed for “high crimes and misdemeanors” the text of the constitution is that a President can be removed for “Treason, Bribery, or high crimes and misdemeanors.” Or what would you call the Chinese $500 million funding of a Trump project for saving ZTE? Coincidence? Harry Truman did not get rich over being President. However Trump shows an earnestness to curry favor with dictators worldwide where one of his properties is located.

    The problem with Trump is not his policies. (Heck, other than trade, I like most of Trump’s policies.) It is his character. His lack of honesty. His Birtherism, and insistence that Ted Cruz’s father helped kill JFK. His rampant repeated and flagrant adultries on Mrs. Trump I, II and III illustrate his venality, as do Trump University, cheating vendors, and his five bankruptcies. I would be just as opposed to a lying, thieving, dishonest Democrat as I am to Trump.

    I will not sell out for my approval of Trump’s judges and overlook a man whose character is as bad, if not worse, than Andrew Johnson, and Richard Nixon, who both richly deserved impeachment, and, I believe, removal from office.

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    • May 20, 2018, at 8:58 AM PDT
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  14. RufusRJones Member

    @garyrobbins Any comment on this quote? 

    Ole Summers: It is about constitutional self-governance in a republic…

     

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    • May 20, 2018, at 9:56 AM PDT
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  15. RufusRJones Member

    delete

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    • May 20, 2018, at 9:59 AM PDT
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  16. Annefy Member

    Stad (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):
    50+

    This must be a typo . . .

    And a slight exaggeration, but the high end of 40+. I still have a campaign button “McGovern means more jobs”. 

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    • May 20, 2018, at 10:25 AM PDT
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  17. Jim Beck Member

    Afternoon Annefy,

    I voted for McGovern, I think I was the only one in Hamilton county Ohio who did not own a Volvo who did. Thank goodness electro shock therapy brought me around (well sort of).

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    • May 20, 2018, at 1:48 PM PDT
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  18. RufusRJones Member

    Annefy (View Comment):
    That there are some Republicans just as bad is not surprising. I’ve been noodling for months the notion that I’ve lived 50+ years with a chart in my head that was horizontal, left to right. One could plot just about anyone somewhere on that scale.

    Trump has upended the apple cart; I now believe the scale also runs vertical, with elites and some pundits in good company with someone nowhere near them on the horizontal scale, but standing in solidarity with them on the top of the vertical scale.Mona Charen, Bill Kristol, George Will and lots of others are all good examples.

    I have a very good friend who is left of Bernie Sanders. She is using George Will (someone she disdained not too long ago) to bolster her anti-Trump rants.

    The people at the top of that vertical scale (but on the right and left of the horizontal scale) have a visceral fear that hundreds of millions of people might realize they don’t need someone with a Yale degree to tell them what’s up.

    I think what you’re onto here is a very, very big deal.

    I could live with half of the anti-Trumpers if they were Dictator Of Everything. For example Jonah Goldberg is pretty much right where I want to be on economic and cultural issues. Close enough. Peace and it dispersed prosperity would break out everywhere quickly. He’s pro-liberty and he can clearly explain why it works for every level of society. He’s far better than me at explaining how centralization and artificial complexity from the government creates a regressive mess. He gets the tyranny of “experts”.

    George Will is in his own category. He’s a very smart guy this works very hard at being a smart guy and concluding that hard-core libertarianism is the best way. Check out the video of him being interviewed by Reason magazine if you think I’m wrong about this. He’s right, but he’s never going to say or do anything that’s adaptable to the current zeitgeist.

    Then you come to the rest of them. Bill and Mona et. al. They don’t think like the two categories I just described. This is what I don’t get: why would you associate yourself with this goofy Niskanen Center? Maybe that makes sense to you, but it doesn’t to me.

    What is these guy’s worldview? What’s at stake for them?

    What I see is, there are a bunch of Republicans that really like the policies that create the problems that got Trump elected. The easy way to spot them, is they are all pro European Union and anti-Brexit. Sort of minimally relevant, but simple.

    It’s a pretty oblique topic, but I think it’s a big deal.

     

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  19. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Jim Beck (View Comment):

    Afternoon Annefy,

    I voted for McGovern, I think I was the only one in Hamilton county Ohio who did not own a Volvo who did. Thank goodness electro shock therapy brought me around (well sort of).

    I not only voted for McGovern, I even walked a precinct for him! So embarrassing. My excuse is that I was in college at the time. McGovern was the last Democrat I voted for President.

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    • May 20, 2018, at 2:15 PM PDT
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  20. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Jim Beck (View Comment):

    Afternoon Annefy,

    I voted for McGovern, I think I was the only one in Hamilton county Ohio who did not own a Volvo who did. Thank goodness electro shock therapy brought me around (well sort of).

    I not only voted for McGovern, I even walked a precinct for him! So embarrassing. My excuse is that I was in college at the time. McGovern was the last Democrat I voted for President.

    Hillary?

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    • May 21, 2018, at 3:39 AM PDT
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  21. Ralphie Member

    The trend of politically active former presidents’ foundations bothers me. The Clintons and the Obamas are power addicts. They need rehab, not more of the drugs of money and power.

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    • May 21, 2018, at 6:29 AM PDT
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  22. Annefy Member

    Ralphie (View Comment):

    The trend of politically active former presidents’ foundations bothers me. The Clintons and the Obamas are power addicts. They need rehab, not more of the drugs of money and power.

    Scott Adams spoke months ago about how to bribe a sitting President legally

    You do it by donating/hiring to ex-presidents with assumption the sitting president is going to be very aware of who will be writing checks to him after his tenure 

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    • May 21, 2018, at 7:10 AM PDT
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  23. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Jim Beck (View Comment):

    Afternoon Annefy,

    I voted for McGovern, I think I was the only one in Hamilton county Ohio who did not own a Volvo who did. Thank goodness electro shock therapy brought me around (well sort of).

    I not only voted for McGovern, I even walked a precinct for him! So embarrassing. My excuse is that I was in college at the time. McGovern was the last Democrat I voted for President.

    Hillary?

    Thank God I could vote for and work for Evan McMullin as his county contact person. I am very proud that McMullin drew 8/10 of one percent of the vote, which is unheard of for a Presidential write-in candidate. The best vote I cast since Ronald Wilson Reagan, the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century.

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    • May 21, 2018, at 10:33 AM PDT
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  24. Gary Robbins Reagan

    To answer the title’s question:

    Question: ”Our Republic’s Greatest Threat”?

    Answer: “Trump”!

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    • May 21, 2018, at 10:37 AM PDT
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  25. Jim Beck Member

    Afternoon Gary,

    Since electro-shock therapy worked so well on me, I suggest that you would find it beneficial (this is a joke, of course). Here is a humorous answer to the greatest threat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QurCB1lCHp0. As Sir Humphrey might say, “It is most definitely, not Trump!”

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    • May 21, 2018, at 10:48 AM PDT
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  26. Jim Beck Member

    Afternoon Gary,

    Here is a serious response by VDH (his existence is proof of a loving God), https://amgreatness.com/2018/05/21/how-democracies-end-a-bureaucratic-whimper/

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    • May 21, 2018, at 12:25 PM PDT
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  27. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Jim Beck (View Comment):

    Afternoon Annefy,

    I voted for McGovern, I think I was the only one in Hamilton county Ohio who did not own a Volvo who did. Thank goodness electro shock therapy brought me around (well sort of).

    I not only voted for McGovern, I even walked a precinct for him! So embarrassing. My excuse is that I was in college at the time. McGovern was the last Democrat I voted for President.

    Hillary?

    Thank God I could vote for and work for Evan McMullin as his county contact person. I am very proud that McMullin drew 8/10 of one percent of the vote, which is unheard of for a Presidential write-in candidate. The best vote I cast since Ronald Wilson Reagan, the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century.

    Wow. Low standards. Trump actually paid his staff, ya know. 

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    • May 21, 2018, at 6:01 PM PDT
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    To answer the title’s question:

    Question: ”Our Republic’s Greatest Threat”?

    Answer: “Trump”!

    By saying Trump, you are saying you are OK with the clear abuse of power by the Obama Admin in using the levers of power to go after political enemies. By voting for McMuffin, it is clear the will of the people be damned, you wanted to provoke a constitutional crisis. That was your goal. That was McMuffin’s goal.

    Gary, what you want is not in the best interest of America. What you want is to silence the voices of 40% of the nation. You want an empowered elite to rule over us all. What you want is anti-republican, anti-democratic, and I think stands against everything Reagan stood for. 

     

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    • May 21, 2018, at 6:04 PM PDT
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  29. Gary Robbins Reagan

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    Afternoon Annefy,

    I voted for McGovern, I think I was the only one in Hamilton county Ohio who did not own a Volvo who did. Thank goodness electro shock therapy brought me around (well sort of).

    I not only voted for McGovern, I even walked a precinct for him! So embarrassing. My excuse is that I was in college at the time. McGovern was the last Democrat I voted for President.

    Hillary?

    Thank God I could vote for and work for Evan McMullin as his county contact person. I am very proud that McMullin drew 8/10 of one percent of the vote, which is unheard of for a Presidential write-in candidate. The best vote I cast since Ronald Wilson Reagan, the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century.

    Wow. Low standards. Trump actually paid his staff, ya know.

    But not his vendors or creditors!

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    • May 21, 2018, at 7:41 PM PDT
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  30. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Jim Beck (View Comment):

    Afternoon Annefy,

    I voted for McGovern, I think I was the only one in Hamilton county Ohio who did not own a Volvo who did. Thank goodness electro shock therapy brought me around (well sort of).

    I not only voted for McGovern, I even walked a precinct for him! So embarrassing. My excuse is that I was in college at the time. McGovern was the last Democrat I voted for President.

    Hillary?

    Thank God I could vote for and work for Evan McMullin as his county contact person. I am very proud that McMullin drew 8/10 of one percent of the vote, which is unheard of for a Presidential write-in candidate. The best vote I cast since Ronald Wilson Reagan, the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century.

    Wow. Low standards. Trump actually paid his staff, ya know.

    But not his vendors or creditors!

    You have no leg to stand on! You are proud to have voted for a guy who stiffed people. Ergo, you supported him stiffing people. 

    See, Gary, it works both ways. You want to hold the Trump voters against every last thing Trump does. I can do the same with you and McMuffin. 

    You wanted to provoke a constitutional crisis. That was your goal. Can you even admit that? 

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    • May 22, 2018, at 5:08 AM PDT
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