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  1. Jimmy Carter Member
    Jimmy Carter
    @JimmyCarter

    Okay…. President Trump cracked Me up. That was totally unexpected.

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  2. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    That was a literal LOL. Thanks for sharing.

    Edited to add: and of course I hear Yanny. And I’m getting a kick out of millions of people saying (almost) my last name. It gets mis-pronounced so often …

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  3. Mike LaRoche Inactive
    Mike LaRoche
    @MikeLaRoche

    Yanny and Laurel should have a cup of covfefe.

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  4. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    Okay…. President Trump cracked Me up. That was totally unexpected.

    Yep. That was great!

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  5. Annefy Member
    Annefy
    @Annefy

    Just played the video for my husband (the original Yenny) and he laughed til he cried.

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Hysterical! I loved it! Trump especially. And it’s #Laurel!

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  7. Umbra of Nex, Fractus Inactive
    Umbra of Nex, Fractus
    @UmbraFractus

    It’s weird. Watching the original video on my desktop speakers, I hear, “Laurel,” but through headphones on my phone, and in this video, I hear, “Yanny.”

    And, yes, Trump made me laugh. Well done, Mr. President.

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  8. RightAngles Member
    RightAngles
    @RightAngles

    hahaha! This is weird: Like @umbrafractus I heard only “Laurel” when I saw this on the news. But in this video, I heard only “Yanny.” What does it all mean!

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  9. WI Con Member
    WI Con
    @WICon

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    Okay…. President Trump cracked Me up. That was totally unexpected.

    Yep. That was great!

    President Trump seems like he’s starting to have fun. Hitting a stride. Things ‘feel’ different, like things are really starting to click.

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  10. James Gawron Inactive
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Mama Toad,

    You say Yanny and I say Laurel, you say tomaato and I say tomatto, let’s call the whole thing off.

    https://youtu.be/zZ3fjQa5Hls

    Regards,

    Jim

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  11. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Just more proof that Trump is a Russian stooge that need to be impeached.  

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  12. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Awesome. 

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  13. Doctor Robert Member
    Doctor Robert
    @DoctorRobert

    Laffed…coffee…out…of…my…nose…

    But seriously, what a great look this gives us into the POTUS and his circle.  What other inner circle would have been willing to make fun of themselves to give the rest of us a laugh?

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  14. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Laffed…coffee…out…of…my…nose…

    But seriously, what a great look this gives us into the POTUS and his circle. What other inner circle would have been willing to make fun of themselves to give the rest of us a laugh?

    I think you mean “covfefe” out of your nose….

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  15. Franco Member
    Franco
    @Franco

    Yep! 

    By the way, when did Anne Hathaway start working at the White House?

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  16. C. U. Douglas Coolidge
    C. U. Douglas
    @CUDouglas

    HAH!

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  17. TheSockMonkey Inactive
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Laffed…coffee…out…of…my…nose…

    But seriously, what a great look this gives us into the POTUS and his circle. What other inner circle would have been willing to make fun of themselves to give the rest of us a laugh?

    I seem to recall the last White House doing some stuff like this. Of course, by now, I don’t recall the specifics.

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  18. danys Thatcher
    danys
    @danys

    Trump’s response was inspired.

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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    Umbra of Nex, Fractus (View Comment):

    It’s weird. Watching the original video on my desktop speakers, I hear, “Laurel,” but through headphones on my phone, and in this video, I hear, “Yanny.”

    And, yes, Trump made me laugh. Well done, Mr. President.

    Me too. They did it had to to with pitch, so the recording may well drop the lower sounds. 

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  20. RightAngles Member
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    TheSockMonkey (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Laffed…coffee…out…of…my…nose…

    But seriously, what a great look this gives us into the POTUS and his circle. What other inner circle would have been willing to make fun of themselves to give the rest of us a laugh?

    I seem to recall the last White House doing some stuff like this. Of course, by now, I don’t recall the specifics.

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  21. Mark Camp Member
    Mark Camp
    @MarkCamp

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Me too. They did it had to to with pitch, so the recording may well drop the lower sounds.

    I think that people who hear “Laurel” may have high-frequency loss.  (But it could well be more complex than that–I really haven’t thought it through).  Here are the points that make me tend to believe this theory.

    1. One of our kids has extremely acute hearing.  She hears “Yanny”.
    2. My wife and I both hear “Laurel”. She is young-middle-aged (under 70).  I am old (64) and am basically deaf at high frequencies.
    3. I recorded “ya” with a low pitch (probably a little below A2, which is 110 Hz.)  Then I increased the pitch  (using the Audacity app).  She still heard /j/ (the “y” sound), I heard /l/.
    4. The vowel always shifts from /a/ to aw when you increase pitch.  The Yanny-Laurel shift involves a to aw shift, and the shift direction with increasing pitch is the same.  Shift pitch up, a becomes au, y becomes l.
    5. Hearing Laurel involves not hearing /n/.  /n/ is a nasal consonant, and these have complex formants (resonant frequencies that determine what vowel or nasal we hear).  With these sounds, some of the lower formants which we normally use to distinguish vowels from each other get knocked out.  (The cause is this: the nasal cavity is resonating these low frequencies, but so is the closed mouth, and the one resonating chamber is 180 degrees out of phase with the other at some medium-low frequencies.)
      1. In fact, with nasals, we use high frequency formants to a considerable degree to identify them.  So, we in the more mature and wise cohort are missing the frequencies that would tell us it’s an “n”. What remains signals “r”, apparently.
      2. If you record a thick “r” (a sound one can hear ad nauseum by attending any church choir rehearsal in the Midwest) at A3 (220 Hz) or higher (my MacBook  doesn’t pick up the fundamental of  A2 sung in a beautiful baritone ;-) and look at the Hanning spectrum on Audacity, you will see some weird stuff.  I haven’t had time to sort it and fit it into my theory.

    In general, messing with the pitch changes the perceived sound between the various sonorant consonants (the approximants, w, l, /j/, and the nasals /m/ and /n/).

    The thing is, I have only addressed the subject of filtering out high frequencies.  The other change, and it’s huge, when you alter the pitch of a recording is that the relationship between the formants changes.

    A pitch change preserves the ratios between two resonant frequencies, but changes the absolute difference.  The weird thing about formants is that they are mostly fixed frequencies. For example, the really low first formant that helps us to hear the y’s in “Yanny” is almost the same frequency for the sopranos and the basses!

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  22. Doctor Robert Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    TheSockMonkey (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Laffed…coffee…out…of…my…nose…

    But seriously, what a great look this gives us into the POTUS and his circle. What other inner circle would have been willing to make fun of themselves to give the rest of us a laugh?

    I seem to recall the last White House doing some stuff like this. Of course, by now, I don’t recall the specifics.

    Good for Hussein!

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  23. A-Squared Inactive
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    @ASquared

    Mark Camp (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Me too. They did it had to to with pitch, so the recording may well drop the lower sounds.

    I think that people who hear “Laurel” may have high-frequency loss. (But it could well be more complex than that–I really haven’t thought it through). Here are the points that make me tend to believe this theory.

    The original recording is of the word Laurel, but I think you are right that what you hear is also a function of the frequency response of the speaker(s) you are listening on.

    https://www.wired.com/story/yanny-and-laurel-true-history/

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  24. Z in MT Member
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    @ZinMT

    This is like the whole blue/black or white/gold dress again. Perception is a very interesting thing.

    Trump’s response is perfect.

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  25. Annefy Member
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    @Annefy

    No matter how I try, I can’t make myself hear “laurel”. I’ve listened on my phone and my computer speakers.

    I don’t doubt for a minute that with a different audio set up, I might hear “laurel”, even though I want to hear “Yanny”

    Interesting, someone somewhere posted that those with acute hearing abilities hear “Yanny”; I don’t think I’m in that group.

    Now … for a real mind … challenge, tell me if you hear green needle or brainstorm? you can make yourself hear either:

    Green needle or brainstorm?

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  26. RightAngles Member
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    Annefy (View Comment):
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    Green Needle.

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  27. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    @MikeLaRoche

    All I ever hear is Yanny.

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  28. Annefy Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):
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    Green Needle.

    But if you think “brainstorm”, you’ll hear brainstorm.

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  29. Arahant Member
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    Annefy (View Comment):
    But if you think “brainstorm”, you’ll hear brainstorm.

    Even when I think “Green Needle,” I hear “Brainstorm.”

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  30. RightAngles Member
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    Annefy (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):
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    Green Needle.

    But if you think “brainstorm”, you’ll hear brainstorm.

    I tried that, but I never heard it.

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