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The former attorney general of the state of New York had a pattern of slapping and choking women with whom he was intimate. He also spat at them, demanded threesomes, insulted them, threatened them, and called one (who had dark skin) his “brown slave.” Without warning, he slammed a girlfriend so hard that he broke her eardrum. In another case, his palm left a red welt on a woman’s face that remained visible the following day.
One more time: Urges are one thing. They are not the problem. Following through an an urge that is a betrayal of someone else is wrong. I am sorry that this can’t be seen. For the life of me, I can’t understand it. We are all fallen. God understands that. But maturity and commitment is what turns boys into men. Making fun of such thoughts does not constrain me from having them.
I’m glad to hear that. But our point is, Trump didn’t actually grab anybody by the pussy, as @kayofmt pointed out. Consensual heterosexual relations are never “creepy”( playground word!). I’m “sorry” you can only see it as a “betrayal”. But then that is the victim mentality.
I’m beginning to find this thread frankly hysterical. It’s about Eric Schneiderman. The top law enforcement officer in NY, who was to be the scourge of Trump, a champion of #MeToo, and defender of a A Womans Right To Murder Her Child ( in Utero). Who has been accused by multiple girlfriends of assaulting them, committing emotional abuse on them, making racist degrading comments, and threatening them with using his office to punish them.
But Trump!, because he made a comment in what he thought was private moment, engaging in some locker room talk, that most men have at some point made, stating whats pretty much a fact, just weren’t recorded saying it. And somehow that makes him beyond the Pale, and unfit for the august position of President.
@kozak, you re right. I am OUT.
See when Trump says “I’m going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it”. That’s just talk and I don’t believe him. However, based on his decades of disgusting behavior, when he says he grabs ’em by the p*ssy, I take him at his word and believe him.
And as far as are we looking for a president or a pope? I have certain standards before I will vote for anyone. Basically I don’t vote for scumbags. That’s it.
We are fated to never understand one another. I’ll confess that I am not married and never have been. It is a long story, which I rarely get into. My words stand, though, as far as I am concerned. My “playground” word applies to any man who is unfaithful to his wife, on an ongoing basis. Mistakes are one thing, as are other extenuating circumstances.
While I have no brief for hillary, and consider her rather creepy, the fact remains that Bill cheated on her many times, not being able to be man enough to curb his adolescent urges. The same thing applies to Trump. It is your right, certainly, to see betrayal as a victim mentality. But, if one believes in God, and believes in living up to promises made, than I see standing before Him, and pledging loyalty to a partner, while knowing you will betray that loyalty, as an affront to God, and a betrayal that is leading our society down a path that no one should want to travel.
Thats most politicians.
It really is. Name one that isn’t a Keynesian that just wants top get past the next election. Name a Democrat that doesn’t have to look the other way at least at cultural marxism. Name one that doesn’t have a K Street exit strategy. There aren’t many.
Trump is doing great, on net.
I’m going to give you my two cents on this. I agree with you on Trump’s sexual behavior. It is pretty repugnant, though for perspective, still better than Bill Clinton’s and immensely better than John Kennedy’s. Trump is probably the rudest, most boorish, and most insulting man we’ve ever had as a president. And he lies constantly, though the content is mostly about trivial stuff. I would dissuade anyone from emulating these character traits.
On the other hand, Trump has some superb qualities that make up for the bad stuff. If he didn’t, he would have been given the bum’s rush a long time ago. He has an ability to call things as he sees them without the slightest timidity, things that others know but are afraid to say. He calls to account corrupt people and institutions in a way that Republicans have been yearning for for decades. He is the first high-profile Republican with enough balls to consistently admonish our deplorable Press, who deserve it in spades. He is willing to unabashedly stand up for certain ideals without succumbing to liberal peer pressure. I sometimes marvel at his ability to withstand the most venomous vitriolic attacks without blinking, even better, he fights back.
So Trump is certainly a mixed bag. Both his pluses and minuses are near the extremes, which makes him very hard to get a grasp on. Few people’s character is so lopsided in opposite directions. I, for one, would not care if he went away tomorrow, just so long as we keep getting Conservative things done in our governance. I think it is futile to worship a “man” in government (or any other place). It is far better to worship “ideals.” Ideals, if they are good ideals, will never let you down.
This is not bad. From your prospective. As I see it, his “positive” traits are a lack of maturity. Children tell the truth, because they know no better. What you see are his positives, I see as a child who never learned to control himself as he aged (what most of us like to say as Matured). He gotten nothing out of his childish rants, and has only alienated people. Sure, much of the press is horrible. But what has saying so gotten him, or us, other than more idiotic coverage. We need legislation to codify the good things he has done into law. But his alienation of lawmakers has made that almost impossible. Thank God we have a Republican Majority. And his ego-building outbursts have emperiled that. What you see as good, I see as temperary emotional gratification. And is successes – many of them – can be undone with the next Democrat.
Wrong.
no one has accused Mr Trump of assault. Or of racial slurs.
mr Trump does not make a career of trying to destroy his opponents with claims of sexual impropriety. Trump is not holier than thou, as was Schneiderman.
Schneiderman. Spitzer. Weiner. What is wrong with these NYC dems?
George: I was the mod who crossed out your words. When you use a word sarcastically, it generally means the opposite of the word’s normal meaning. So making several comments in a row where you sarcastically implied Hypatia is not intelligent is most certainly against the CoC.
As I explained, J.D, I was not implying that. I realize it may have looked like that. I was just saying that she thinks very highly of herself. I believe she is very bright. Candidly, I am not a fan. But I recognize brightness.
With all due respect, I think a little inquiry – maybe privately, if that is your wish – would have been better than just assuming what I meant, and then acting upon that (erroneous) assumption.
George, it’s much easier for us mods if you are clear about what you mean in the first place, especially when speaking towards someone you are obviously not a fan of. In light of past comments that we have spoken with you in regards to (and considering we could see the full context of the conversation) it’s easy to determine a meaning that you may or may not have intended to be there.
Unfortunately, that’s the biggest problem with text communication. When we have to dig through a large number of comments, it’s not very efficient to have a conversation about every single comment to ensure we are able to read the minds of a single author, especially when said thoughts seem blatantly obvious to the casual observer (i.e. the multiple people who flagged that comment in particular).
Having said that, I would request that you, and everyone reading this, take the time to read your comment from the perspective of a stranger before you hit the comment button, especially if a comment is made during an emotional (for lack of a better word) conversation.
Thank you in advance!